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1 hour ago, Melusina said:

Unpopular opinion: I don't think live service was bad for consumer

less unpopular and less opinion and more question-like: what was issue with live service? What was so wrong with it? What was it all about?

well for me its easy. I like to own what I pay for. I don't want some EA CEO decide that game I paid for is not making enough money and deny my access to it

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3 minutes ago, Melusina said:

 

isn't that what denuvo is? what's live service in that?

what?

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Live service generally entails a server-based architecture where your progress isn't stored locally. You must connect to the network to have access not only to the regular new contents and updates that are supposedly the upside of a live service, but simply to access your stuff and play the game.

That's different from a DRM scheme like Denuvo which may need to dial home, even though the authentication mechanisms in live services do double as a form of DRM. Fundamentally you can strip or sidestep a DRM layer to get the game to work, but there's no way around a live service's servers shutting down.

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3 hours ago, 213374U said:

Live service generally entails a server-based architecture where your progress isn't stored locally. You must connect to the network to have access not only to the regular new contents and updates that are supposedly the upside of a live service, but simply to access your stuff and play the game.

That's different from a DRM scheme like Denuvo which may need to dial home, even though the authentication mechanisms in live services do double as a form of DRM. Fundamentally you can strip or sidestep a DRM layer to get the game to work, but there's no way around a live service's servers shutting down.

Unless you are competent enough to decode traffic between your client and the game server, and recreate "fan-server" at a later date. Which is a skill that like 99.999999999999% of all gamers lack 🤷‍♂️

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6 hours ago, 213374U said:

Live service generally entails a server-based architecture where your progress isn't stored locally. You must connect to the network to have access not only to the regular new contents and updates that are supposedly the upside of a live service, but simply to access your stuff and play the game.

yeah, that sounds like total crap.

Posted (edited)
9 hours ago, Wormerine said:

Here is my conspiracy theory: CDPR hacked themselves and sold their stuff to make up for Cyberpunk refunds and to regain goodwill with public. 🤫

To paraphrase the great philosopher Mick Dundee: That's not a conspiracy theory, this is a conspiracy theory...

Everyone knows there are shortages of gpus and cpus. The reason for that is not Intel and to a lesser extent Samsung crapping the bed or high demand for hardware due to everyone staying at home because of covid or supply side issues due to shipping being completely asterisked; the real reason is that the foundries that make them are now too busy making the microchips that are going into the vaccines to make enough cpus/ gpus. Think about it sheeple, you know it makes sense.

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1 hour ago, Zoraptor said:

To paraphrase the great philosopher Mick Dundee: That's not a conspiracy theory, this is a conspiracy theory...

Everyone knows there are shortages of gpus and cpus. The reason for that is not Intel and to a lesser extent Samsung crapping the bed or high demand for hardware due to everyone staying at home because of covid or supply side issues due to shipping being completely asterisked; the real reason is that the foundries that make them are now too busy making the microchips that are going into the vaccines to make enough cpus/ gpus. Think about it sheeple, you know it makes sense.

I guess the biggest question now is, can you overclock it?

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The Sinking City dev tells people not to buy its own game from Steam • Eurogamer.net

The H. P. Lovecraft-inspired horror adventure returned to Steam yesterday - and it didn't take long for the developer to warn potential customers not to buy the game.
In a tweet, Ukrainian developer Frogwares said it had not created the version of The Sinking City made available to buy on Steam this week. "We do not recommend the purchase of this version," it said.
This version was published by Nacon, the company Frogwares has endured a long-running dispute with over control of the game.
Back in August 2020, Frogwares pulled The Sinking City from sale a year after it filed a lawsuit against Nacon, the French video game company formed from the consolidation of the Bigben group ahead of an IPO.
Frogwares alleged Nacon tried to claim copyright of The Sinking City after its release, withheld milestone payments, and owed the developer around €1m in unpaid royalties.
"We did our best to deal with this quietly and amicably but to no avail," Frogwares boss Wael Amr said at the time.
Then, in October 2020, the Paris Court of Appeal ruled Frogwares acted unlawfully when it pulled The Sinking City from sale, and ordered the developer to refrain from any further action that would affect its contract with Nacon until the dispute between the two parties was resolved.
This decision opened the door to The Sinking City's return to Steam. But before Nacon managed it, in January 2021 Frogwares released the game on Valve's platform - although it was pulled soon after.
Now, a month later, Nacon has put The Sinking City back on Steam, and already it's getting review-bombed, with customers complaining that the latest release appears to be an old version of the game.

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Posted
4 hours ago, Zoraptor said:

To paraphrase the great philosopher Mick Dundee: That's not a conspiracy theory, this is a conspiracy theory...

Everyone knows there are shortages of gpus and cpus. The reason for that is not Intel and to a lesser extent Samsung crapping the bed or high demand for hardware due to everyone staying at home because of covid or supply side issues due to shipping being completely asterisked; the real reason is that the foundries that make them are now too busy making the microchips that are going into the vaccines to make enough cpus/ gpus. Think about it sheeple, you know it makes sense.

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Posted
6 hours ago, Melusina said:

yeah, that sounds like total crap.

It is crap indeed 🤷‍♂️

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It seems that Systemshock remake is back on track. There is new demo available on Steam and GoG. It's pretty generous when it comes to content - first level I believe. I died before reaching the end, though I feel I have been reaching the end (playing for about 2 hours) - I don't think it supports saves right now. I never played Systemshock1, UI just seemed a bit too prohibitive, and so far I liked a lot what I played. It still feels like an old game but in good ways. There are few kinks - these is one bit when you play a game of Plummer while levitating - that was super awkward. I assume the Plummer minigame wasn't done in real time in the original. But overall, good stuff. 

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On 2/28/2021 at 2:15 PM, Wormerine said:

It seems that Systemshock remake is back on track. There is new demo available on Steam and GoG. It's pretty generous when it comes to content - first level I believe. I died before reaching the end, though I feel I have been reaching the end (playing for about 2 hours) - I don't think it supports saves right now. I never played Systemshock1, UI just seemed a bit too prohibitive, and so far I liked a lot what I played. It still feels like an old game but in good ways. There are few kinks - these is one bit when you play a game of Plummer while levitating - that was super awkward. I assume the Plummer minigame wasn't done in real time in the original. But overall, good stuff. 

Played a little bit, initial impressions are....kinda boring.  Maybe it'll pick up but so far nothing really compelling about it.

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They didn't bother to look. Is just the same as the RDR2 online mode ... they don't care. They gladly take your money, but that's it. Everything else is of no importance to R*.

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1 hour ago, Lexx said:

They didn't bother to look. Is just the same as the RDR2 online mode ... they don't care. They gladly take your money, but that's it. Everything else is of no importance to R*.

Well, based on the money they are getting, safe to say their customers aren't caring, either.

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Ironically without actual gameplay.

 

With more gameplay info, a trailer without gameplay in the title:

 

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Posted
33 minutes ago, melkathi said:

With more gameplay info, a trailer without gameplay in the title:

Looks very very good. Keeping my finger's crossed for good reviews. 

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