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So I must say that game does not look that great. Animations are quite meh and textures looks pretty dated. I don't really care that much as I expect other aspects to be what make a good game of vampire but still, seems little bit underwhelming.


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1 hour ago, Oner said:

While I would be happier having all the disciplines, they gave an explanation for it in one of the preview videos and it doesn't bother me that much either way.

Yeah, but while they rationalized it away, my brain kept going "optimization for controllers". Presence + Dominate for Ventrue could be somewhat redundant mechanically -- even if they were needed for leading from the front as they were known to do. But taking Presence away for Brujah for instance is kinda crippling and I fear it may severely restrict the Clan's playstyle.

Guess we'll have to wait and see, but I honestly can't think of a single game that benefited from having its design constrained by the need to play with a controller.

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I felt they made it to make clans more distinct. To ensure no two clans can be played the same way. A Brujha with Celerity and Presence could be indistinguishable from a Toreador. 

I don't like losing a discipline. I want to be fast, strong AND dashing.


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1 hour ago, Oner said:

While I would be happier having all the disciplines, they gave an explanation for it in one of the preview videos and it doesn't bother me that much either way.

I hope the characters will have more color on them though, everyone's been dressed in all grey so far.

Could be a reflection of dreary Seattle which is why Socal will always be preferred by me, or more likely that the game has a darker tone than the original, which I'm not crazy about unless it's met with some of the charm/comedy/character/color at some stage.


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2 hours ago, Chilloutman said:

So I must say that game does not look that great. Animations are quite meh and textures looks pretty dated. I don't really care that much as I expect other aspects to be what make a good game of vampire but still, seems little bit underwhelming.

I saw it mentioned on Reddit, that this was probably because animations aren't finished. They avoid showing faces talking at the player, and use camera cuts to make all the vampires seem sort of sneaky and hard to catch sight of. It's a good catch that I think is right.

This game still has 8-9 months of development left, with even more content coming after launch.

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The mainstream won't agree, but for a weird reason I connect character faces and animations with such type of games. Deus Ex, the original Bloodlines, etc. all looked pretty much like this.

Is a plus in my book. 😆

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I dunno, Deus Ex got decent animations IIRC, but I agree old Bloodlines were wonky as well


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5 hours ago, injurai said:

I saw it mentioned on Reddit, that this was probably because animations aren't finished. They avoid showing faces talking at the player, and use camera cuts to make all the vampires seem sort of sneaky and hard to catch sight of. It's a good catch that I think is right.

This game still has 8-9 months of development left, with even more content coming after launch.

Thought that was a given. It's the first footage from a smallish team, of course it's not a final product. It even says pre alpha build...

That said, the Source engine is still one of the best examples of facial animation to this day, so I doubt that level can be reached. But I'm satisfied with the overall look - not sure what there is to complain of texture wise? It looks exactly how it should in that regard, imo.


"I started to see people as little lonesome, water based, pink meat, life forms pushing air through themselves and making noises that the other little pieces of meat seemed to understand...I don't think I was 'mad', I was just confused."

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It looks already much higher quality then I expected from Paradox funded games. Naturally, graphics is not something that decides my interest in an RPG. Overall, it looks better then I expected.


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Yup, looks pretty much like back in the days.


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While I'd expect the animations and enemy variations to improve a lot by launch. My god is the controller play awful. Maybe it's just this type of game, but the person playing is extremely incompetent at it.

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Well, at least dancing like a maniac is back.

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Yup, that looks like Vampire. Plus playing with pad and not being able to turn for some reason. Why would one play FPS with a pad is still beyond me. 


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It works... if you have the skills. This guy obviously doesn't have them.


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I have to say, club music is really disappointing compared to old game :(

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On 6/12/2019 at 5:45 PM, injurai said:

While I'd expect the animations and enemy variations to improve a lot by launch. My god is the controller play awful. Maybe it's just this type of game, but the person playing is extremely incompetent at it.

On the positive side, you can be fairly confident that this is honest to goodness genuine gameplay and not a cutscene with someone pretending to "play" it, because no one would make a cutscene with gameplay that incompetent. :banana:

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