BrokenMask

So can I ask something? If the exp part is instrumental part of nature of classic IE games, then how come on D&D style stats and alignments aren't? <_<

Very true, but so far it seems that they don't intend to fix the hiccup. They've made a game where you will almost certainly be spending at least 50% more time fighting; while at the same time not providing any kill-xp to prevent you from getting bored. I hope the stealth mechanics are good; because I suspect most players will be using them a lot. What. They haven't even had first patch after beta release and you are already saying that? Also, wow, 6 posts in row. That has to be against rules ._.; And to Immortal, I backed the game because I wanted to get great CRPG, I think everyone backed it for similar type of reasons and not for "I back this game because it has enemies in it that I can kill for exp" <_< Thats like saying "I bought a fighting game so I can play as shotoclone" or "I play MMOs so that I can pay lot of money for pointless things!" And I said that they probably won't mind the new system if its works great unless they just like kill exp system that much better. Currently the system is flawed so it needs fixing. I think there is change that some people will accept the system after flaws are fixed, but not everyone will. Please Immortal, practice reading comprehension, its annoying having to say same things again because you don't understand what I'm saying, plus you are quite eager to insult others. And no, I'm not speaking for entire playerbase, I'm speculating about their possible future reactions if they improve exp system without changing back to old one

Read what I exactly said. "I doubt anybody literally gave them money BECAUSE of". Sure, they could still be disappointed by the change, but I don't think that was the main reason they gave the money. If the new system is fixed so that it works great, then they probably won't mind it. They will mind it as long it works as bad as it does now.

My initial impression is that 5e is better. It pretty much has to be if they want their players back. Huh, okay, that would suck for my wallet though

I doubt anybody literally gave them that much money because they thought you'd get exp for killing enemies and I doubt anybody thought that IE games were defined by getting exp from enemies <_< Nor does anyone think that game is ruined by it and even if it were ruined by it, it can still be fixed considering that beta only started. And honestly, there is no innovation without hiccups in the journey.

Eh, I don't think there is anything wrong with trying to improve old good formula as long they do listen criticism. If they don't succeed to make things better during beta, thats problematic, but I don't think they shouldn't try just because people are anxious or they don't get it right off the bat.

Huh, so what is its' thing? Like 4th, but trying to appeal to 3rd fans? It's a "Pathfinder won" edition, at least from reading basic rules. A cleaned and groomed 3d edition. It would have worked well for PoE I think actually, since they fixed many things that people dislike on first glance - there are no "empty" levels (every level you either get a stat, or skill, or a spell), Fighters got pumped a lot (like, +half a dozen of new standard abilities), Rogues became ultimate skill-bots and also got pumped a lot, and so on. Huh. I suppose Pathfinder is still better though?

Huh, so what is its' thing? Like 4th, but trying to appeal to 3rd fans?

Which edition of D&D are you guys talking about anyway? <_< I know there are four of those, with fifth coming up, but I don't really have any idea which of them Baldur's Gate was based on

Do we need second poll on this? Seriously, do people just want to have their own poll on everything or whats up with multiple combat exp polls and threads and now the attributes?

That is a lot of portraits to waste for portraits of races we already have access to 1000's of. Better make female human portrait number 2382 rather than female Aumaua number 3 right? If Obsidian has any sense at all they will focus on the new races. That wasn't my point, my point was "How is it impossible to provide one or two portraits for all combinations"? Even taking in Godlikes, its not THAT much. I mean, yeah, 48 if each combination has one portrait, but thats not impossible, thats just more than all other portraits combined, which would make sense since godlikes include all other races.

First off; that's impossible. There are too many combinations of race/sub-race/gender to do. They would need waaay more protraits than they are going to add. Secondly, the art style is already extremely inconsistent; have you seen the female Aumaua? Compare that to the male Dwarf. The portraits from the IE games and fan portraits in those style are more than close enough since poe has absolutely no consistency at all. How so? If you don't count godlike, its 4 or 6 per race. Male and female for each subrace. Thats perfectly duable. If you DO count godlike, well, yeah, 4 different godlikes with 6 different body types for male and female. However, each of godlike types does have exact same faces so they could just add few portraits to different godlike types instead of having portrait for all body types.

Wait, she doesn't disappear in the night for you? Then again, I had completed her dragon egg quest <_< So maybe she doesn't go away for sake of you being able to complete quest any time?

I noticed that she disappears for night, but isn't inside her house. I was kinda wondering about if devs forgot something xD

So why should we believe RPG Codex anymore than any other person in this thread? Also, isn't it in the end subjective whether you will like the final product or not? <_< Its not like anyone's opinion is objective fact.

Ah, gotta check that out then

You mean blue outline you can get without scout mode?

Purple outlines are for things you discover in scout mode, like floorboard in second floor of inn and other stuff in that other thread so probably its meant to be discovered in scout mode, but its bugged so you can always see it

I've noticed that sometimes after returning to area after enemies were killed and looted, their loot has respawned on the spot where they died

Dunno, even Bioware which is backed up by their evil corporate overlords and multi million budgets doesn't have rpg where every quest works as intended. Even if its something as tiny as game giving you wrong flag for completing the quest In case of companies with less huge QA team, there are quite a lot of quest bugs from what I've noticed

I haven't visited RPG Codex, but I assume it can't be much worse than this place. Majority of Internet forums have overly heated debates that devolve into arguments and flame wars. Most of calmer forums either have really tiny userbase or mods in the forum have draconian policies. I suppose it would be technically possible for forum to just attract calm people because of the subject of the forum, but I haven't ever seen that happening, forums without ridiculously strict policies will always have tons of flamewars when there are enough people.

But that's hardly all that distinguishes, say, a mage from a fighter in AD&D, is it. Fighters can't use wands or scrolls or cast spells. Mages can't wear armor or wield swords. Obsidian screwed themselves over by removing equipment requirements. The game has leather armor, but it is completely useless. There is no reason to use it because every class can just use full plate armor. Wait, interview I read stated that armor choice is supposed to be faster attacking vs better defense, is that not in the game yet?

Do you mean with character diversity that certain builds are worse or better than others or that every build requires different way to play?

Just to point it out, that change did piss off the fans

Huh. Well, excuse me for English not being my native tongue, but my understanding was that that was always the implication of "No need to be [x], behave better!" sentences <_< You know, since implication is that you are acting like [x] .-.