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Ups, your wright So now it's more clear to my why the game has more optimalized graphics then Neverwinter Night 2 but worse dialogs \ Ehh.. biowere shoud make graphic, obsidian shoud do dialogs and EA shoud burn in rotting hell, and mayby then we will have perfect game

Yeah, but her looks in general is "can't be called anything other than functional." She don't even look like a women. But on other hand Cercei with is generaly more "womenish" had an armor like this : Why ? Becouse they oversexed her look ? Becouse they must give free masturbation material to public ? No becouse they wanted her to look more like women, and seeing women today i don't think so that they ever wanted to look like men ... Besides they made Brienne of Tarth look like that becouse of the immersion and story (or shoud i say author of books made her like that) becouse if she whoud look more womenish like cercei she whoud be raped many many times by other soliders so she propably was "hiding" her women "difrences" becouse of that.

Im personaly not a big fan of bulids like "1lvl paladin, 2lvl druid, 3 level warrior, 34 level wizard" becouse in my opinion it's immersion breaking. But im 100% for a classes that can be bulid in difrent way, warrior in medium armor and high speed, warrior tant with low speed but big defence, offencive mage, support mage, rogue archer, druid shifter, druid mage, fighting paladin, paladin commander etc etc etc .. Every decision in "level up" shoud make a big difrence, fighting offencive fighter shoud be way difrent then fighting tank and even "balanced fighter" shoud be diffrent then these two.

And im personaly ... HAPPY .. that obsidian is not makeing 3d game. I can't remember any obsidan game that was made good in 3d. Best example is Neverwinter Night 2, even today game can "freeze" some times on a computer that skyrim on highest setting is running like mad. Alpha protocol with "characters dissapearing in walls and obiects" and in gereral not optimilized graphics and bugs. I did not ever encounter any of this **** on isometric games from obsidian, so ime glad they are not doing something that they can't. The only game from obsidian in 3d that was running good was neverwinter night 1, it was not complicated yes but at least not freezing. From all years it crushed only once when i made a module with 20 dragons and 40 demons fighting ech other.

No it can't The engine is to week to handle high-advanced cut-scenes or animation like in skyrim, mass effect etc. Secondly even if he coud devs allready said that there will be no "movie-like" cut-scenes so good by to advanced sex-scenes. And i personaly do't belive that they whoud add "hipp" moving animation for chcaracters from isometric perspestiv only to create some kind of risemblence to movie like sex-cutscens from mass effect, not only becouse that whoud look awful and silly but also becouse they are agins sexualizing characters in their games ... I personaly don't remember any sex-cutscenes from obsidian stable, only in alpha protocol but even there it was not on mass effect or Witcher 2 level.

My worst fear is that this game will be Crappy fusion between Baldours Gate 1, Neverwinter Nights 1(or shadows of undertide) with Neverwinter Nights 2 characters like Elanee and Khelgar and have the same amout of bugs... And don't get me wrong, besides NWN2. All those game where good when they where published. But today they are realy poor, shallow and booring. But on the other hand i dont want copy of diablo with story line like "fight, fight, fight ... hmm why are you fighting ? .. hell ... fight again !!" I also don't understant people that are afraid that this game will evoluved intu Mass effect2- dragon age2- wither2 softcore porn, this is like being affraid that GTA will change to monster catching game like pokemon, seriusly. To much difrencec, no highly advanced 3d graphics and animations so no 3d porn ... sleep well

I think that this will be game on the same level as BG1, violence + Alkohol, mayby bad language and drugs (but propably no) so any kid that is offended by sexual thames may play this game. If you see no difrences then why put them at all ? Let's make everybody genderless and problem solved. but seriously.. what are the differences between women and men ? Ask your self ... and im not talking about physical difrences but social. Firstly men beating a women is seen as bad, woman seducing a large number of men are seen by some as a **** etc etc etc. Secondly, man reacts to a woman difrently (especially a beautiful one) than for a man. Women can say something to a women that seems normal, but if men says the same thing he coud be slapped in the face .. I meen social and cultural diffrences. I can't imagine obsidian 2d graphic designers, makeing nude breasts (i don't think that they can or do it). But i agree nude cards was propably the "worst" part of that excelent game. Sex can be input to a isometric game in several ways : 1. Sound 2. Narrative dialog ( you enter and brothel and see one of the workers looking at you and gently lifting up dresses ) etc. or (you se nude women, she was raped by solider, do you want to kill them ?) The (Sex-scens) in isometric game mostly look like "black screen, mayby some sounds" -----> you se your character need the bed and also a women. I don''t know what you see ridiculous, mayby sex cards or "Witcher libido and infidelity with his relationship" but they are all given to players hand. If you dont want to you can have mayby 2 scenes with the Trish. Besides, i prefer sex-cards then softcore porn in game if i must be hones. BTW. Why im starting to think that most of people here, want that game to be as poor as possible and want reduce gameplay to level-ups and storyline like "become the best there is" or "experience a tragedy and kill uber-super-turbo-arch-devil, that at some point turns out that he is your brother or father" ? if you know what i mean

I don't think I've seen that happen in any games with a New Game+ feature. Normally the goblins are level 20 instead of level 1. Besiacly yes, but if you remember skyrim or morrowing you know that you level was the core what type of creatures you are seeing so for example to level 20 you see mostly bears, wolfs or sibercats but after it you coud encounter trolls, ice trollse etc ... And i thing that whoud not be so hard to input in a new game + feature.

The only thing i liked about Diablo 2 was "Necromancer". He was weak itself, but he coud "summon" a small army that was doing most of the work ... in general we seen a "pale masters", "liches" or "necromancers" in D&D setting .. and they have small army under their serivse ... Imagine, having a necromancer class in the game ... it whoud be awsome ..

I am fan of New Game + feature, so for example i play original campain and at the begining my viligde are atacked by "goblins" and if i play thru the whole campain and then "save" my char and play it again i coud encouter "ogres" of "giants" insted of common golbins ... I think that allowing player to have 1000 level in a game where the "dificulty level" is defined to only 100 is stupidity ... BUT alowing player to level up to level 1000 when he can get only 100 in first time nut make game "dfiicult" ech time .. is the best solution ...

I think that shapeshifter shoud be more as "race" rather then class it self, seriously even if a druid can "progres" to a shapeshifter, are you realy think that someone that can change intu everything else is still a "human" ?

I want flyring shark as fammilliar and a quest that can make me a demon lord .... I whoud also apriciate if there are gona be new druid transformation "Wild Shape- Rabbit from the pitts of hell" yeah ..

Gothic 2 night of the raven. You have freedom, you chose three possibly fractions and after a wile you starting to go in tu the main plot. Fallout New Vegas Let's say you have a freedom (but let's face it not so many possiblitys like in skyrim) You are doing subquest visiting citys and then after a while you pick a side of conflict ... Those two was propably the best linear plots combined to "in some way open world"

Malekith So if characters are better in literature then why inspireing PE form other game characters. You see i think that first games was better becouse the inspiration came from books not games. And for exapme if some one create a char by book inspiration of some char, then somebody make inspiration from you char, and if we repeat if several times we have a shallowest inspiration from a char that was besiacly created in book ... But if i must say waht type of chars i liked in games i say it simple ... Every game has some chars that are good and some that are bad even in the most shallowest of Obsidian creations NwN2 OC there was Ammon Jerro who was good, even in DAO - Morrigan even in Mass Effect - Wrex ... Even in Skyrim Ulfric had his moments ... But makeing a decision with game had "THE BEST" chars is in my opinion pointless becouse concentrating on "one" best game is hideing other possible ways to create a good chars ... btw, it whoud be hilarios to se confrontation of Ammon Jerro inspired char, and Septhiroth ... west vs. east battle of titants

None of them becouse i think the best characters were made in literature (books etc for those who don't know) Not games...

Thank you. Now apply this logic to romances.(based on the increased sales theory.) Mayby im proromances but im not fan of idea of adding romance only based on incrised sales, Becouse we get romance like elanee that was forced or other creaoy dragon age romances (not counting morrigan). Besides im more fan of the idea of adding romances becouse it gives player more possiblititys of role play. Im not fan of sales theory. But im also not agints in fully. Becouse adding romances as "option" whoud not change gameplay of people that don't want them. But not adding them whoud change game play of people that want them. So logicly adding cathable monsters whoud complatly change gameplay, but adding optional writhen content does not. So logicly speaking adding romances as optional whoud atract people that want them, but still won't scare of those who don't. But not adding them can scare of some group of people that want romances and not scared those who don't. But im not only for adding them, i want them to be relevant to the story, not simple not meaningfull content.

Only Fallot NV was good game from those three you mentioned. Oblivion and fallout 3 was good examples how not to make a games in general. In Fallout NV you don't have a romance but some hints of it with cass. Besides pokemon games also have hudge sales, with doesn't mean we must create cathable monster that evoluve when the gain level or mute main character.

Well, you must have been glad when you got the chance to kill him then. That really should be in games as a rejection option - knife to the throat. I almost thinked that he will do this when i rejected him -15 to influence just for say NO !

You are master of theatrics and also very funny I've got the same reaction when Zevran from Dragon Age tried to saduce me ...beurkkkkkk beurkkkkk I've enjoyed your posts up to now but please refrain from blatant homophobia as I'll end up not liking you at all. Heh.. it's not homophobia, but the dialog of zevran was simply so horrible wen he was trying to do so i almost jump out of window. i whoud understand a dialog like "do you like men ?" insted "i like men i you make me horny" sorry it's to much for me .... Beside jekeing about romances in general is good, but jokeing about badly writhen homo-relationship is horrible ?

You are master of theatrics and also very funny I've got the same reaction when Zevran from Dragon Age tried to saduce me ...beurkkkkkk beurkkkkk

Makeing good romance in game is very hard. Becouse it is almost imosible to make a romance that suits everybody. Secondly becouse there are still WoW children that want only looting, fighting and nothing more becouse it is to complicated. I se that antiromancers here can be assined to two camps. Camp first trolls and wow children, secound camp logical but very afraid people. For me 2d infinity engine inspired game romance = more content = more possibilitis of role play. I hope that PE will be not NWN2 clone in baldours gate graphic level, but from what i see it starting to risemble it, one stronghold for everyone, strange mechanics, crating system but no news about characters or their personalitys ..... More then romance im afraid that PE is starting to go wrong way, i mean nwn2ish style. Becouse you can add crapy romances as opton but if game in general is epical like BG2 it still is epical, but if you add wonderfull romances but main game is crappy .... then it still is crappy

Other rememberble characters from Gothic 1 and 2 night of the raven. there are some characters that even don't have a name like "town guard" or "novice" and there are still wery climatic events in this game, I also think that giving characters names like Alvarez or Gomez also gived some to this athmosphere.

Fallout New Vegas Also well done minor characters, even talking to minor gang member was athmospheric. My favorites is Boone and Cass

Romances in games where waaay before first mass efect and other biowereian games (i hope you don't see BG2 as biowere game). BG2 had romances way before ME, but there where many games before that had romances but they where "plot" related not optional, for example Final Fantasy series. But there where many game before that had romances but they where more plot related and not focust on them even in all FF series from 1 to 7 romance was not so imortant to main plot but more for personal character development. Final Fantasy 8 break it and made plot that romance was almost at first place (but plot was still good and more mature). Wy can't you play diablo 2 or 3 hack and slash with no character development and childish story ? Cant you leave people that actualy want good story and character development alone and troll on biowere sites or daiting sim sites if yo want to feel importat ? Beside im 100% for romance and even having children AFTER the story line, i also cant see pregnant elf running inside the dungeons and fighting romances. Off cource we can assume that they don't have protection and this was simply an accident (like in life) but even then she shoud go from party and rest at the time of pregnancy. Seeing preg belly elf taking hits from dragon is to much form me and i don't want to see it in PE. This is also not from mechanical side but also from good taste ... i think that this can be done better. I'm saying for every literary fantasy where romance doesn't make sense there's one that its rather important to. Which is really the key here, you can do a story with or without romance. Both stories can be crackling good. That's why I keep trying to stress that really, ultimately, if romances are in or out and if they're in what kind of romances they are really has to be dictated by story and character. There's not a "one size fits all" solution here. I agree annd i also think a Dragon Age Orgins or Mass Effect are good examples of "how not to make romances in games" and here are my conclusions : 1. Romancing ech character shoud be difrent, romancing 1 girl is difrent then romancing secound. 2. Romances shoud develop thru whole game not like 2-3 conversations and you are 1000% in love, romance shoud progress slowly. 3. Romances shoud be more focused on character inner motivations, problems and emotions rether then thei ugre of getting laid like in mass effect. 4. Romances shoud be more based on writhing rether then special effects and sex scenes. 5. There whoud by always and option to not have romances with somebody becouse as i sad forceing someone to have romance is as bad as forceing someone to not have it. 6. Romances shod always be relewant to main story and character development not optional bonus that doesn't change anything like in DAO. and have main inpact on a ending/endings. 7. Romances shoud more risemble Jaheira/ Viconia romances or Final Fantasy romances (if characters are younger) rether then typical biowereian. 8. Characters that are romance ably shoud be intresting even without romances, becouse romaning badly desined character like Elanee or Leliana is pain in the ass. 9. Romances shoud not focus on "ego-stroking" player and insted on "you are so good i can't stand my self" like lelianna romance they shoud more focus on creating a romance that shows all spectrum of emotions, anger, sadness, happynes and other. 10. every character must be living character, makeing some character romance able doesnt meat she/he must become mindless ego-stroking doll, characters that are romance able shoud have their problems, motivations and react like living characters, thet shoud argu if they don't like something. 11. And last one, if they input any "influence system" that affect romances i hope they don't do it like "i agre +1" "i don't agre-1". Becouse in reality people interactions are much more complexed, people sometime want someone simply to lisen to them rether then talk, people somethimes want to know what they do wrong insted of hearing "yo do everything good" and sometimes people act strage, and they don't even know why ...

All minor character from Vampire Masquarade Bloodlines, i never saw a game with this level of "well done" minor characters.