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Becouse those are not trolls, they are bandits in troll costumes

It's kind of hard to tell how big something is when there's nothing there to give it scale. Also, how big are orcs and bugbears? Orc an bugbears are mosty in same hight as human or litte shorther or "little" bigger. On screan shot PE trolls seam to be at close "hight" as humans. So simmillar to orc or bugbears. In other games and books Trolls are mostyly massive and way bigger then humans and even considered as race of giants, Exeptions "wow trolls" with are wery simmillar to PE, from distance you "Coud" mistake them for bandit with woodden horns attached to a head .. sorry but whats good is good and ok but trolls in PE are just lame ...

The Poll is very inconclusive. BTW. Another Troll from movie Beowulf what do you think ? And other beowulf inspired concepts

Yeah, the troll killing mechanics like "you must use fire or acid unleas it will stand up again" where the best way to trolling a player who did not use those type of elements ... (or did not have them)

Yeah a few o them

Yeah but that doesn't mean that adapting another troll concent that look like orct with woodlike horns (like in PE) is original. I like original adaptations but lets face some things, if i say dragon you suspect dragon or something simmillar to dragon not rabbit with butterfly wings, if i say Godzilla you suspect something that risebles godzilla not pikachu/ domestic cat crossover. And if i say Troll you suspect something that risembls trolls, something big and ugly i supose and PE trolls are ugy (but not too big in my opinion by that doesnt matter). But addapting Troll you suspect something that looks like troll and is well desined. American Godzilla was so bad compared to Japanese not becouse it was bad, it was something that only risebled godzilla but not to a level that sopmeone whoud ever mistake that thing for original Godzilla. Trolls where added in many books and games, some more some less popular, but it doesn't mean that we create something that looks like orc with wood on the head and say "yay we are original nobody made trolls like we do" ... I coud live with PE trolls, but compered to trolls from tolkien, Baldours gate, Neverwinter, Icewind dale and even Fable trolls they are like vampires from "twilight" compered to vampires from masquarade bloodlines.

I whoud like to have cougar ... or panther .. and i mean big cat not women "cougar" They just look awsome Imagine what type of mechanics it coud be input to a panther. Yeah wolf and bear whoud propably act as typical warriors becouse they atact directly, panthers and in general wild cats perefer more "sneak" silent killing .. yeah i like that idea allready ..

Sorry, but im the only one that thinks that those "trolls" look more like orcs or bugbears with horns ? At least if they where bigger and more "massive" they whoud more risemble "folklore" trolls. I even made a thred about it. Not a big issu but for me those "trolls" are "trolls" only by name

Personaly the quest i DON"T want to see, are quest like "kill 6 wolf that eated my sheep" or "bring me my ring that i lost when i was drunk". Gothic 3 is a game where we can see them allmost in every city, but sometimes we get wvery good quest like "find the spy" or "steel some treasure" .. this game has a lots of badly anoying quest and very good ones.

By the way i forgot (and can't edit) Fable Trolls. From Fable 1 From other Fable 2 or 3

Mayby they hawe simmillar horns. But honestly, Trolls from PE look like newborns compered to Trolls from Snow White.

I personaly don't like to much PE trolls becouse they look like orcs with horns to me .. My personal Favorite is BG/ IWD trolls, they where creepy and waay difrent in look and combat then orcs ...

Right. Because if there's one thing I worry about with an Obsidian made game, it's that there won't be any character interactions. Mayby im not so worring about "non-interaction" but no logical consequense on those interactions. Not tu much .. but litte. My worst ngihtmare about PE is Neverwinter Nights 2 type of companions .. plastic, not realistic.

Hello I started this thred becouse we had seen "Trolls" screenshot. Mayby not to much important but i personaly don't like that concept to much and here you have example. Project Eternity Trolls: And here are my propositions .. 1. Neverwinter Nights 1 Trolls 2. Neverwinter Nights 2 Trols 3. Skyrim Trolls 5. BG/IWD trolls 6. Gothic Trolls 7. Warcraft Trolls With one of those you like the most ? ps. I didn't add anime, jrpg troll concepts becouse (it whoud be nightmare !!!!!!!)

Im personaly more interested in fact how will they menage people interactions, relationship with party members, facts about game world, fractions, religions, creatures, races, countries, politics, gods, skills, classes, spells.. baaah.. even crafting ... WHY ? Becouse i know that obsidian is wery good in 2D graphics so no worry. Whats worrys me is possibilyty of makeing Baldours Gate 1 copy and paste, with no character interaction and non-original plot ... but im hopeing that will not hapen ...

I like that quest becose of athomsphere, father that changed did something to his familly (if enyone whan't to know what see bloodlines), this quest was one of the few in entire games that i actualy enjoyed reading "plot related notes". I agre that more sceary quest in game is entire hollywood with "internet cafe" and undergaund. (for me protetics doctor was not so sceary, hey you are serial killer .. hello im matha****** vampire ! buhahaha) For me almos all "Bloodlines" quest where awsome, besides "shark demon" quest .. best part in entire bloodlines is that you don't recive EXP from fighting but from finding way out ant you gain exp regardless if you sneak, fight, speak or anything else ... secound was the athmosphere. In bloodlines you coud realy feel like a vampire and "Vampires" where not shiny cry babys, they where dangerous, sceary and sexy but not lame.

Hello ! What type of quest whoud you like to see in PE ? What type of quest you like most ? What "quest" was your favorite. I personaly whoud like to see 2 types of quests: 1. (Mystery) Find out who is werewolf in port last (NWN1) my personaly favorite from that game. 2. (Mystery/ghost) A mansion with ghosts from Vampire Masquarade Bloodlines. The best known quest on the planet in my opinion. It whoud be awsome to see quests like that in PE. I also enjoyed "orzamar deep roads" from DAO (best quest from that game). Rakghouls and sewers from Kotor1 (also good). And allmost all quest from Witcher1, expecionally "Detectiv" part. What type of quests you like ?

Yeah the "non-benefiting" atributes from NWN2 (and previosly nwn1) or IWD2 where wery annoying. Expecionaly if fighter class always ended in fullplate warrior having two handed weapon for Weapon Master or shield and weapon from dvarwen defender. I hope that if i chose warior and in game there will be another warior i have oportunity for being waaaay difrent then he is, thats not mean i MUST be better, being defrent meat im sometimes better sometimes worse then he is ... Secoundly i hope that "ALL" abilitys will be not bugged or "thrash" like, i hope that all abilitis that some class can take are meaning something.

You don't understand me, i sad that most "artistic" part of most armors like **** part of armor where desined becouse there were more males and almost no women that was fighint in that type of armor or giving "personal request" to a blacksmith for makeing it with sexy boobplates or other weird element. Today wemen are much more liberated then in late medieval, and secoundly "war" rapes and other that type of actions are not so "common" as they where in those times. About "practical" part of the armor i agre that the best type of armor is genderless type, but if whe assume that everything "REALISTIC" is better, then why you agree with women prests wearing fullplates, secondy i don't think that there are much women that can handle that weight of armor, even not all mens can. If whe assume that everything "realistic" is better, then why the hell we have magic in game ?! or monk crushing dragons or bears with fist, or tiny women wearing fullplates like 2 meter tall viking males ? Why are you so agins womenish looking armor "even" with boobplates but not for other parts of "non-realistic" parts of the game ?

Realistic armor only if we assume that in game will be no women fighters, why in history women where not fighting ? Becouse they whoud be raped by enemy soliders in most of the time. So there are no "REALISTIC looking armor for women". Women can wear MENS armor but still, it's not "Women made" armor. On other hand we have planty examples od MENLISH looking armors even in this thred. But let's assume, there are armors that have ben inspirated by "mens" body here are example : And it even has Nipples !!!! IF Women, where fighting and men sitting home or both genders where engage in war and fightings with armor. Why do you assume that this type of armor BUT inspired by female body whod be unrealistic if there was planty of men-body inspirated armors ? Going by your logic, it's unrealistic for wemen to be warrior in general co no women fighters, secondly "priests" where not wearing fullplate armor lige this But expecionally a female priests (nuns) where wearing something like this : And i don't even will start a conversation about magic, fist monks killing dragons and other parts of "unrealistic" part of the game, but from your stand point there are OK .. so why are you so agins boobplates or female inspired armors ?

I think that the best way to rebalance game shoud not lay in "power" of classes but tactics. If you are a mage it whoud be reasanable that at max lvl you are uverpowerd. But if you get to confident and go without any stategy you might find situation tat simple rogue put you down with a dagger in a back. Thats what i think, but makeing fully "balanced" classes is not a solution becouse if we balance everybody we will get Diablo 3, where all classes are almost the same. The good way to make game baralced is to make sure that you always need some classes to fully discover whole world. Rogue for traps, locks and sneaking, mage for walking cannon, warrior for acting as a wall to your team. But there always shoud be someone you coud not handle alone, for example mage-hunter vs. mages, mages vs. enemys resistant to sword, rogues for killing enemy mages etc.

let's make i simple, let's everyone be at max level from the start so no level ups

By a "Party" i was thinking that you want to "party"

But i curius if there was a womenish type of armor in history .... propably no. But if womens where more engaged in fight and war, expecionaly noble women with whoud have the money to but this type of armor we whoud se more armors like this. or even whout boob plate but dress to look more womenish and not "chainmail-bikini"-syndrome.

If im gonna to play fighter ..... i must have this type of armor