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Is tis only me or Orlan is simmilar to Yoda ?

So what will satisfy you ?

Green for being polite ? Pink for being **** and yellow for "I don't care" ? ike in Dragon Age 2 ? I hawe only one answer for this ..

And one more bird like The schocking part is that i found it by searching "Samug" haha

BruceVC Hmm.. i don't know wy byt this is simmilar of nwn lizardmen ancients. Good idea in my opinion.

And what was recist in them ? That they where one of the best wariors or becouse they are diffrent race then nord or imperial .. sory im not racis but having black nord or santaclaus is to much for me ...

Well originam myths aboyt elfs are complatly difftren then elf that we will gonna se in PE. Dwarws also has almost no features of mythical dwarwes. Mythical dwarws were very small, elfs has more features of faires then humans. If the devs decide that dragons are gonna be friendly pets of humans becouse it fitt in their world your argumentation like "Meke them like in myth or don't" is simply pointless. I like dragons is skyrim (withs some mods that make them stroger) but i don't want that type of dragons in Eternety. the fist type of dragons more simmiliar more to orgininal D&D dragons becouse if you read cerfully you whoud seen that i sad "Neurtal to humqans and loners, avoiding humans" in skyrim they where agresive and looking for humans so complatly diffrent .. and of course where weak. My secound thout about dragons is hidden empire and i simple don't understand sentence "ur***/otherkin race" mayby my engish is not good enouth so please use other word to describe your opinion. Why i am for anciend hidden empire ? Becouse it more original then "EXp bags" or "common mosters scenarios" and becouse i think that in some ruins that we se in artworks (see endless paths) we se some andcien ruins of older civilization and my hidden empire concept fitts. Secodry i like "Slayers" dragons, also origninal. Besides "In Eastern myth and pre-Buddhist religion they're the highest of Gods" also fittis to hidden empire scenario for exampe simple farmers see a dragon on the sky and disapears and starting to think that he is a god but in reality he just enterd a invisible dragon town suspended in the air. Besides if you knew more about medival history in wester europe, dragons where more to common with Devil it's self, Dragon was a devil or his servant puppet and also comes from hell ... so what ? We donna input dragons as devils ? To the topic Another humanoid dragon

I like how orlan look but... Those clothes ... sory but i hope that clothes and armors won't look so generic ... allmost like pajamas

Skyrim ? I personally have 2 concepts of dragons 1. As a ancient, brutal (but not entairly evil) Cratures that can live for ages, have supernatural (not nececerly spell magic system) powers and in general are loner that don't like company. This shoud work but theres one big reason ... if they so powerfull why they don't role world ? Mayby other race hunt most of them titans, humans etc. or mayby they generaly fighting ech other .. but if then why ? 2. As an ancient inteligent race that can even have hidden citys and are useing powerfull magic (yes spells) that human mages can dream to think of. They are abvoiding humans but are consern about world or dimencion it's self. in first they can be generaly natural but suspicos for anywon in secoud they can be enemys of everyother powerfull onec that want to change existing world (demons, angels, gods etc) . The first one is for more "Animal characteristic like" secound one more "sociayety-like" ... i like both of them and will be glad to see both of them (for exaple species A (loners) speciec B( hidden empire) More humanoid one And more diabolic like

From updates i read that in PE will be more them one expierience poll. So basiacly if we will have combat exp and non combat exp then wi will ned to have 2 pools of levels (combat level and uncombat level) or Level calculated as Combat exp + non combat exp. In secound example 1 lvl can be wery simmilar to 10 lvl ...in first one something like in fable. I like overpowerd characters i realy do but i need something else then "Training" to force this .. wy becouse it's not to possible that characters in few weeks change from simple peasant to demigod ....

I sudges next therad "Telling thuth in conversations" or "Not telling anything in conversations" thread as next ...

Cool, mayby a longer neck for first one and its okey Second one also will do but that "Mantis" features don't fitt a little but also cool.

Inspired by Dragon age orgins and Witcher i think that orgin or some kind of biografy/ history shoud be one of main part of "Role Playing" part of the game. That's of course not a hudge discovery but i want to se your point of view. Regardles of many peoples opinion about DA .. Orgin system was some good part of that game .. a part that BG characters where most week .. in my opinion. I also think that "General" biografy text like in NWN or BG system was very week. Becouse i whint that not only companions shoud have some part of motivations, ambitions but also a player. The part of making "Decisions" in Witcher was one of best in my opinion ever made. There are no "Pure evil or good" decisions there and we must wait for consecuences so no reloading ps. Please don't post pinions like "I let devs decide" becouse we are not controling them and they will do what they want regardles of our opinion. But you shoud have some preferences about "Orgins" in general ? thank for attention

You want to ride a spear ?

Nice pictures Op I agree with the above post but you should be able to defeat them. Whats the point if you can't beat them? well, near unbeatable. I heard in Skyrim you had dragons and they weren't even the fiercest beasts you could beat, they died quite quickly after a while. That's not what I think of when I think of dragons, when I think of dragons I think of (near) unbeatable doom machines you better not cross. With a mind like a cat. (similar to how Robin Hobb describes dragons) Makes sense, they should be very hard to defeat. Hurting them shoud be very hard not talking even about defeating them.

Out of interest, how many teenagers from medieval times (where they would have been working from a young age anyway) or from the distant future do you personally know? The idea of a teenager being anything other than a small adult is a pretty modern concept... I hope we get the full spectrum of ages, including old and young, especially considered that in a fantasy setting combat prowess doesn't necessarily have to be in correlation with strength when there are magic and mystic skills in the offing. I mayby look old but i wasn't living in medival times so "PERSONALLY" i don't know any of them.

You serious? What about... Harry Potter (Harry Potter) Simon (Memory, Sorrow, and Thorn) Daenerys Targaryen (A Game of Thrones / Song of Fire and Ice) Claire Bennet (Heroes) Harry Potter and Deanerys where put in scecial condision and in the preasure they evolved in more adult ones ..

Yeah right ... and elves and dwarves are not xp bags where you kill them or take quest form them ... Dragons, elfves, dwarves are generally at the same level of over used and i don't know what "Playable" is changing .. Orlans where gonna be used only in this game propaby and they playable, is fact that they are mix betwen halfling/ nome/ goblin with new name and are playabe makes them more original ? I'm not taking about "originality" ... I'm talkign about mis-use. Yes, dwaves nad elves are a staple of fantasy RPGs, but at least they are varried. They don't serve a singular purpose and tehy can be (and have been) done in different ways. Dragons are there to be killed. Usually very easily...by pricking it to death for half an hour. In practicly ever fantasy RPG, if there are dragons, you are gonna run into one and fight it. And those great, majestic, powerfull creatures loose so much of their awe because of that. When's the last time you were actually afraid of a dragon in a game? I sudgest to continue our conversation about Dragons here http://forums.obsidian.net/topic/63281-dragon-in-eternity/

This therad is about dragons. I make this thread becouse i saw many discusion about them in other threads. My general opinion hav dragon shoud look like : The best head for Aquatic like dragon in my opinion And other for more elemental like And for undead dragon

Teenagers are in general difficult to input as "World-savers". Becouse normal teenager when he sees a zombie or ther supernatural crature whoud propably run ... Thats not becouse thay are cowards, but they still in some way kids that wanna play, enjoy life, make jokes and live their own life ... it is realy hard to make a teenage character that is convincing as world-saver ... I don't think we shoud play Grand-Farts like Forton but at least 20 year old .. that is still youg but more mature character ...

I think that : In general gameplay shoud risenble NWN or BG or icewind dale 1/2 In storyline ( Mask of the Betrayer and Witcher ) In Adulty (Witcher) in Charecter personal deepnes (Witcher or Final fantasy 7 pr (also emotional impact) In romances (Witcher and/ or Alpha protocol) In fractions (Fallout New Vegas or Gothic 1/2 ) In Alhemy and Crafting (Skyrim or Gothic 1/2) in athmospere (Dragon age, Neverwinter Nights, Witcher, Mask of the Betrayer and everything "DARK" ) And shoud NOT be like NWN 2 in characters shallownes D&D to compex level uping (Expecionaly in NWN) In bugs for Gothic In general code game that has no goos grafict but even modern systems can break on it (NWN 2) In Romances like Mass efect 2 in Crafting and alhemy NWN2 od course !!!! In Storyline "Pokemon or Dragon Age 2) In athomsphere ( NWN 2, Oblivion )

That's wy i cad simmilar .. GTA Eternity is to much but avdanced machines that don't nececerly reasemble to cars or submarines .. (but for exapmle powert by magic) sound good but ony if the where not tipical cars ..

The same thing are saing guys that think that PR will be copy and paste form BG .. they also can say that this is not what they backed

let me explain. A) This is not about copy and pase but simple inspiration ---> characters that we don't whant to be inspirations gor PE becouse they are shallow B) We simple say that we don't want character maked like are most hated ones, they life only becouse someone was lasy or had low skills and er don't what some characters made the same way C) Do you have to take everything literally ?

Bos_hybrid You have you opinion i have mine, i don't whanna agru becouse i think that "real" truth is always beetwen. But one thing "No the content in those romances are proof that they are generally bad." But there are a lot people that want romances, and even romances that was not "Shallow". The problem is not that romances are "Generally" bad. Becouse it the same logic as "Painting" or "books" are generally bad. If you don't like most of romances or simply hate them i general thats OK and i understand that. But thing is that that creation is bad ony if it has bad creator. Same romances, romances are not the problem .. bad writhers are. And by "Bad" writhers i dont meat that they don't have any skills but also don't have motivation for making it. Id Columb whoud have more skills but no motvation he will land in India not America. There whoud be no USA .. but General Tribes Federation. I'am for romances becouse im simply for every type for interaction with world and npc. I don't what simple hack'n'slash or maindless fighting simulator. Im also for putting general need like hunger, wather stc (just like in Falllout NV) sitting on chairs (not only standing) and multiple ways of quest endings. horse riding/ fighing, technology, crafting, and any other forms of interaction, becouse i don't whanna controll dolls that slash everything .. i want to se good Role Plaing Game as complex as possible but not with ultra-grapics. Pe can be complex game or notcomplex game ... and i am 100% for complex becouse we alrady know that devs are not so much for ultra hyper grafics. And that the best opportunity for making vary deep and compex game not shinie one. But argumentation like "one or two devs don't like this so it wont be" don't convince me ... becouse if creator have no motivation to even consider something at the begining of creating .. it does not sound well for their creation .. Of course they can have allredy some "General idea of the game" and don't want to change some part of it .. but problem is we are not talking about alhemy or strongholds (that was stechgoal) we are talking about human interactions .. if ssome one has not motivation for consider some part of it this just sound bad. To other part of your post .. I don't think that 2 activ threds will destroy this forum or do something evil. Mayby there was many of those thread .. but in thred like "I don't want something in game or i will take my money back" no moderator says "I will clouse this childish thred .. WHY ? is it me or it's just an automatic-reaction .... Worn -->and or close thred .. We have many more stupid threds and no body complains ... That all what i have to say about "Putting" romances in game i understand and respect your opinion but please also recpect mine.