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Wrex for Mass Effect Ammon Jerro from NWN2 (but his itroducion to the team was wery week) Oghren and Sten from Dragon Age Minsc and Imoen from BG Daelan from NWN Jack from Mass Effect 2 Vincent Valentine from Final Fantasy 7 Irvine from Final Fantasy 8 Boone from Fallout NV Zoltan chivay from Witcher (but he joins only for a moment)

we have 22 respodns to poll and i see that people are generaly more interested more in writhing part and good motivations and plot for romance not Sex scenes and egostroking moments like ramance haters or devs thinks so. I red somewere that Sewyer sad that romances are for "Ego stroking" and we know avellone opionon about them ... If im wrong someone please correct me ... LadyCrimsonDo you realy think that i will read whole romance thead trash where people generaly cry and argu, have 5 parts and ech 27 sides. Yes some peoples form there opinion ther but let's be honest that thred is simply for people that can't control them selves ... i will be suprised if mine theat will have 3 pages but at leat without argu And you realy think that "abnormal" romances are better ? See Dragon Age, Mass Effec 2 one o theres bigges issu was romances multi-racial-sexual raomances with aliens looking like dogs or gay people (i don't have anything aginst them but i simply don't whana discover that my companion, brother in arms etc has hard on on me) .... Wher Zervan i DAo sad "Im wery atracted to you" i simply wanted to run from the room.

As i sad this topic is not about REASONS for puting or not putting romances in game it about if they add them (but they can not) what type of romances you whoud like to see or be insipiration for them. So i don't se any reason for closing it I personaly liked Romance from original campain from NWN Aribeth it was not egostroking, emotional, and hard romance. I also like romances not triggerd bu talk but more some events from game ...

This poll is for people that want romances in game i want to know what do you think about type of romances in general. This poll and thret is not about "Will the devs putt romances in game" becouse i think that this is their decisions ( but i will be disapointed if not". This tred is about romances that you liked or whoud like to see if they add them ... and of coure it's not for people that "don't like romances in general" so don't troll in this topic becouse i don't do this in thread that i don't like Thanks for atention

And where is difrence between them, beside of your illusions ?

That was impsible even in Alpha Protocol becose if you chose side, other sides started to be your enemys. Villain is only word useing to call your enemy when you whant to feel "Im realy fighing a bad guy". Killing, rapeing, stealing and other "WRONG" actions are in games only to justyfy your decision .... without does you whoud realy be not able to chose side. But of couse im 100% for not pure evil villain but in some way there allways will something more "Evil" ... without that is just random choice. Those "evil actions" can be by someone interprated difrently then others so in the end to all of us there always gonna be some badguy.

I think it's not and romance problem in general but it's foult of crapy influence system. Romance love etc. is very deep and complex co if influence system or character in general is in some way unfinished or crapy you will see it mostly in these type of deep relationships. If characters are crapy or let's say "shallow" they will find them self in a simple games like "let's level up and kill archevil" but if you putt them in more deep relationships and game plot in general then all of their minuses, disadvanteges etc. will be most discovered. I realy hate those IWD tpe of the "let's make a team of 6 character and then no relationships between them" becouse it's almost like "catch 6 pokemons and use them to fight" nothing more above "level ups". romances, love, hate, frendship, and all other are just another way to show your characters. If you don't want to make good characters but only "wardogs" then don't make them at all or at least call them "THINGS" not persons ... I don't to play Project Eternity for "LEVEL UPS" or "LOOT Gathering" and other ego-masturbations. I want interactiv novel, that i can influence in every way i want.

No not take place of master, i think that fight among to elivs that was working together whoud be cool to see.

That's why i also sad that i don't want him in PE. Mayby some kind of psychopath actincg simillar but not him. (doesn't fitt in setting) The problem with a psychopath is that unless they are incredibly powerful, it is hard to have one as a villain because they would end up killing all of their followers or screwing up their own plans. Someone calculating and with some measure of self-control makes for a much more effective and believable villain. The powerfull psychopath can be servant of someones stronger and more calculated. Serving him as wardog, or killer etc. It whoud be nice to seeing some plot twist when this type of character break the chain and even atack his old master ...

They will be always simillar to someone even the most original characters will be. So telling us what type of character you liked whon't distroy this project

That's why i also sad that i don't want him in PE. Mayby some kind of psychopath actincg simillar but not him. (doesn't fitt in setting)

Yes, Doom is water, Joker is fire. Water douses fire, water wins. Batman is intelectiualist to so i must agre he whoud propably win (and then bleed out) Why ? i think so ? Joker will almost never hesitated he will burn himself if its gonna bring him victory, doom whoud popably awoid him becouse he don't wanna fight meaningless fights that joker so loves And Doom is a powerful sorcerer, tech expert, and has the resources of an entire country behind him. He has a bit more power and ability than the Joker. if i remember Joker defeated stronger than him but it all goes donw to a writher if writher decindes then even spider-man can defeat doom and joker can defeat superman. I like both Doom and Joker but if they meet they propably whoud awoid ech other. I marvel series it's also argu who whoud wim HULK or THOR. etc The one thing that i must admit that Joker was so pain in the batmans ass is becouse batman never killed him. i Think if Doom whoud defeat joker he whoud not be so nice. Joker has also wary many faces, in almost every cartoon series he is a little bit difrent. Somethimes he is simple criminal on a level of normal bandit and somethimes he can put whole justice league to work. Comparing them on strengh or powerlevel is also meaninless becouse joker is not fighting face to face. He will act like a clown awiding combat, and starting to look for weak spots, in batman series he fight more offensiv becouse batman also don't have any superpower. But in other cases he don't fight he i waiting for the "right moment" to attack in most painfull way. If we do D&D comparison DOOM is mage and Joker is rogue.

I will play them all if they are playable (not like bard in d&d) 1 will be paladin becouse i want to see mechanics of these class, secondry if multiclassing is possible fighter-mage if not something most simillar. i whoud probaple never play rogues and monks becouse i simply don't like that style ... but if playing some kind of assasin is possible i will at least like to see how mechanics for thouse are looking.

Yes, Doom is water, Joker is fire. Water douses fire, water wins. Batman is intelectiualist to so i must agre he whoud propably win (and then bleed out) Why ? i think so ? Joker will almost never hesitated he will burn himself if its gonna bring him victory, doom whoud popably awoid him becouse he don't wanna fight meaningless fights that joker so loves

Becouse it's simplest motivation. You see Doom and Joker are complatly diffrent characters. Joker whas crazy psychopath with kill hobby, Doom is intelectiual, calm and very complex character he is evil but if i remember he somethimes helped the good ones if he thinked that if goodones loose he coud loose to, Joker don't giva **** about anything if killing someone will make him feel good at that moment he will not hesitated for a second, even if the world was the stake. Doom was cold calculated intelectialist not emotionat careless psycho-killer like joker.... It's like compareing water and fire.

I think the only real issu will be with dwarf and orlan race as romance opion (other look wery simillar to human) but thouse difrences that you sad is one of the major problem. And becouse of that i think that if devs are gonna put ROMANCE as an option they shoud put romance option to 1 character per gender and thats all ... in DA we saw at least 3 romances per gender and i really think that was an issu. If they put whole work, and interest in one per gender not three we whoud be see at least 1 good romance not 1 unfinished and 2 crapy. I don't like Romancing in games i whoud like to se bu influences on characters, if some character is starting to love me becouse of my influence on her this shoud be growing slowly, not something like "oh, you bring me the flower let's ****". The problem in romances are also in FORCED romances, somethimes devs are creating character and then at the 90% they jum to conclusion "Hey let's make her romance'able" and in almost all cases it end badly. Becosue if you want to put romance opion with some characeter, then character in some way must be desined for this romance, not only added to fully independent one. Why ? Becose if you create fully independet non-romance-abe character that don't rely on others the only opion where this type of chcaracter will romance someone is sexual desire or desire to settle down. Of coure making a character that is only done to romance player can also result in very shallow character but in this case if we create character to ramance it's realy character=romance if romance is crapy then character is also ... se elanee from nwn2 and you know what i mean. romance shoud be major thing to a storyline, or even entire game why ? becouse it's not one night stand. It's something more compex, affecting two characters i even think that romance shoud be opening to new ending like "Hero after his jurneys settle dawn and start small bisnes in harbor town etc" also i think that adding death of a "woman you love" can give players character some addictional motivation to kill archevil in my opinion, we all sean this in many novels, games and movies and i think thats not bad idea .... See ya

I don't think muhammad ali is evil.

What is you favorite enemy fight in games you played ? In second post in this topic i will say what is my favorite enemy from NWN 1 (first game i played) i also whoud like to make some poll to the topic so im open for your sudgestion what enemys whoud you like to se in this poll. of coure you can post even bad characters For example i like Joker from Dark Knight Of course i DON't want to see HIM in PE but i whoud like to se some kind of simmilar psychopath mind set in PE pure chaos muahahahaha and what are your favorite EVILS from games or movies ?

Mayby this time it will be cats Bogie-man Warcat lvl 1 or Sofa crawler cat lvl 2 a were-rat cat lvl 3 and at the end of the game Cat-Mephisto lvl 40

Sigh, I hate to do this, but.... It's rogues, not rouges. Rogues are devious people; rouges are powders that eighteenth century french prostitutes used to put on their cheeks. Fighters wear full-plate; they know where to shove the pointy thing. Also, can I suggest using a recent version of Firefox so you've at least got a spell checker available? esh .... sory ... but i think everybody understanded my sentence ....

I have few questions ... to Josh Sawyer. becouse of NON-ful-MISS mechanics 1. Mages and rouges are gonna to where fullplate to survive ? (just like fightes) 2: Is there are gonna be any block or demage reduction mechanics ? 3. If i do 4 demage to a oponent whearing heavy armor (and this armor absorbs 5 damage) than he will recive 0 demage or regardles of armor whearing i allways will do him 4 demage ? 4. How rouges will survive if they will always get hit regardless of their skills ? 5. Is NEVER-miss mechanics also include archers and firearms ? 6. Will the armor, shelds or spells will absorb demage (demage redustion) or what ?

Sorry but in my opinion the best alchemy and blacksmith system are from games like skyrim, witcher or gothic .... In Wticher only alchemy ... In Gothic or Skyrim system is simple and everywon, from thef to mage can take something from that ... the D&D craft system is crap in my opinion ... to many rules like alchemy only for mages, blaksmithing only for fighters etc... stupid.

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I don't want romances i want simple love and other emotions in da game ... whole argu anout romances is becouse there are some people that think that romance is simple addon like marridge option in skyrim or fable series. I want love to not be just a simple YES or NO option addon that don't change anything in tha game ... i want no romance addons ... i want to se that every decision is significant ... so if i decide that my character in normal conditions will fall in love with some woman in game then i want to fill change ... not kisses or ****ing scenes like in mass effect or dragon age ... I even think that some enginds can be easly trrigerd by thouse interactions ... if you fall in love with someone whole game can end difrently ... if you simply use your companions and don't bother about their feeling or moralyty ending coud be difrent ... I don't want addon romances .... i want multiple endings that includes love, romances, hate, frendship and so on...... Love or romances shoud be more narrative like (more talks etc) not egostrocking sexscenes ...

DBZ anime is one of the worst animes evermade, only storyine is "kick that ashole" or " gain power to smash planet with your finger not your arm". It almost so childish like pokemin (in dbz we at least se blood),,,, If you whanna input soul system i strongly sugdest to make your own PROJECT ETERNITY soul system. If we wanna look for inspiration Bleach anime is way better than DBZ (but only Arrancar saga not stupid fillers) the problem is that that in Bleach we see Shinigami (gods of death) or angry spirits (hollows) so taking inspiration from this anime whoud be very hard in my opininion. (especialy for isometric game) Besiacly i made this thread becouse of "Fighting like classes" not mages ........ WHY ? Becouse mages are pure fantasctic characters and a level of their power can be easly overpowerd and thats normal .... Fighters are one of most problemic class ... belive me in reality if you train somewan to be master of sword and put on him full plate mayby he will survive lion or tiger atact, but any rino or elefant whoud easly kill him. And I'm not talking even of dinosaurs. So dragon fights (phisical atributes like dinosaur + flames + skin harder than steel) whoud be imposible (if you want to live). So fighter shoud allways gain some unnatural, supernatural power to be at least able to stand 30 seconds in dragon fights ... problem is how much power we must give them ? A( to be able to survive few seconds ) or B ( To be able to destoy whole villige (not planet) in one hit ) or C (something between)