Malcador

That's a hidden stretch goal.

"I was really hoping there'd be more maturity on the Obsidian forums. Naive, I guess." Gotta dig that passive aggressiveness Interesting story Wintersong, you're a different DM than I've ever had - we'd not have gotten an NPC in the first place, hehe. How long did that player take to RP being with the NPC though, game wise ?

I sure as hell hope not.

Well, that's an amusing stance, heh.

I second a Visas type character, creepily devoted to you.

Just as an aside, you must be joking if images and caps are hostile, heh. Better outright hostility if it actually was, than being passive aggressive, though. Meh, this is such a worthless issue to have a discussion on, thinking about it. I blame this weird fancying for 'immersion' in games people have.

Well, just because it just seems so odd, mainly. I do wonder what the neat titles we'll get from the KS will be. Then we can have people who donated more be condescending to those who donated less

Yes, it is! Would you like to join us? Nope, I'll just pitch my cash in without ostentation.

What, don't you want to be immersed, Twinkie ? Well, if part of the plot is your love of some woman, then the game/book/etc is a romance-X thing no ? Not exactly what's being aimed at here. Not only Bioware's romances are underwhelming or eyeroll inducing, CDP's or even some in adventure games (Runaway's sort of fits in) so it's not some dig against them or their legion. I'm not sure everyone who disagrees with romance in games is some min/max powergamer out to assail you pure RP'ers as you're hinting at, either. The pro arguments are about as nebulous as the ones you chose, as well, it's 'enriching' , 'immersive', etc.

I am pro-hookers in game, though. What ?

This is weird fanboyism.

I don't think someone asked the question: why do people don't want romances in game? When you get a book, or a movie, or any other media and it has a romance subplot - which is pretty common - are you like ewww, there's a romance here, disgusting? Do you advocate for any media in work to not have romances? Even if you have some sort of fictional work that in your opinion could do better without a romance subplot, I'm pretty sure it's about the subplot's quality and not the fact that in presents a romance. So if I take a point that good romance subplot enriches media experience in so many ways, why some people consider it so strange that I would like it in a game? Ah right, this line of thinking - wonder why it's so common. You need positive reasons for something, not negative, which is why I asked the question that prompted your passive sniping there, heh. Romance in games is always cheap and rushed out - consequence of the game not really having enough "time" and/or the designers just being garbage at it, I suppose. My experience with ME, DA, KOTOR didn't really feel more enriching if I hooked up as opposed to not hooking up, I guess there were some sappy lines though.

Here was my thinking from the previous page - http://forums.obsidi...80#entry1200360 I guess it might make one's character fleshed out, given the relatively short time frame a game's plot runs through they always seem rushed and just tacky.

Why do people want romances in games anyway ? Just curious.

Would be nice to have a bit of Hitman in RPGs, well with a tad better AI.

Well, war with Iran seems less likely under Obama, so it'd be okay if he won. But never know.

You two seem to be arguing two separate things.

If they're in you should be able to kill them and deal with the consequences of that - ideally playing like it's a game of Postal shouldn't work in towns/settlements with guards and so on. I doubt it'll happen though, PR storm waiting to happen - "People donate money to a game where you can MURDER innocent CHILDRED", etc.

Borderlands 2 is pretty fun, my friends didn't rush ahead of me too much just made it to Sanctuary as Axton. So far so good, usual shoot n' loot, although I'm finding I run out of ammo easily (guess I can't aim). And yes, I found that slot machine and got blown up by it

This whole 'immersion' thing needs to go.

That's a pretty good cartoon, heh.

More well known ? Maybe, but seems they're well known for wrong reasons around the 'net and whether or not it's ambitious, well who knows, they're all a relatively big gamble. I'm not too hopeful on Kickstarter becoming the way mainstream games get funded, given they have publishers and the overall nature of KS.

How does this differ from Double Fine (didn't Schafer start the fire for KS?) or InXile or to a lesser extent Revolution or Jensen (in terms of dollars pulled in, anyway)? It's good to see but not exactly the dawn of a new age or something. Just find this a bit too over dramatic, heh.

Heh, if they have some evil gay guy in the game I can see them getting heat over it. Outrage is fashionable these days, after all.

What on Earth are the Russians doing here ? Or is that some other CIS you're speaking of ? Such an odd thing to demand, but oh well.