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I've never heard of this guy.

What an awful year for RPG's.

Apparently young people are becoming serial returners more and more. Due to the whole social media lifestyle people want a new outfit every weekend to take photos of themselves in and then they send it back. Of course that is clothing not games.

Hmm never heard of that one. Will check it out. I'm due another replay of BG1 and 2, i actually only replay the original games now as well. I played the 'Enhanced Editions' when they first came out but i think they added more flaws than improvements.

Lob?

Josh ran away to his echo chamber.

I get what you're saying but I'm not trying to get too serious with this. I'm just seeing what people like or dislike about the big city concept. They tend to be disappointing in general, except athkatla probably. Kotor doesnt have any main cities, just the hubs of the different worlds and that works perfectly fine. Edit. I actually think it works best when it's the main area of the game, bg2.. and a controversial one here... dragon age 2s kirkwall. I think in bg1 you get to the city a bit too late, iits built up too much and doesn't live up to expectations.

Americans have been doing this for WW2 movies for years, making out they were the only ones who did anything in that war. Completely forgetting all the efforts British and the rest of the allies had been doing for years. Then young people believe the rubbish they see in films and get a completely incorrect and distorted view of the world.

I don't mind Corbyn unlike a lot of people here but I can't bring mysel to vote for Labour. Tony Blair was associated with them and he is still free when he should be locked up! Maybe i'll vote Green party. The planets going to hell right now.

This could be one of the things developers should avoid, it was a big stretch goal for POE for a 'second big city'. Perhaps smaller, more focused areas are better. Stalwart for example, is more interesting than most other town/cities.

I can't stand politics. When the UK general election comes tomorrow, I am going to draw a **** on it.

I think since i've worked in an office i've stopped enjoying PC's as much, since i'm sat at a monitor all day I don't really want to when I get home!

What do we think makes a good RPG city? Neketka is often regarded as one of the better parts of Deadfire. I really like the music, amount of quality content, visuals (and diversity of visuals old city etc). In many ways it is the best of all, it has a very unique design. How do you think it compares to these others? Athkatla (BG2) - Probably the highest tier of all RPG cities. Most of the game is actually set here so there is a ton of content. I don't actually like the visuals that much, it's all very sandy looking. But you leave the city and there are forests everywhere. Copper Coronet is a great pub, a good pub is key to RPG cities I think. Neverwinter (NWN2) - This has a decent pub, it's basically the HQ for your party for the first half of the game. The city feels very static though, NPC's basically just stand there the entire game and don't have much to say unless they are a vendor. Baldur's Gate (BG1) - It's a good sized city with a lot of quests. I like it, lots of pubs everywhere. Berlin (Shadowrun Dragonfall) - This is the main hub for the game, i haven't played it in a while now but I have vague memories of liking it. I think there is a coffee shop though, no pub so not as good as the others. Las Vegas (FNV) - I found it a bit disappointing. There are some quality quests though, mainly that one with the white hand society(?). What have I missed? What do you guys like/dislike in an RPG city? I'm just trying to get some good conversation going about RPG's rather than the doom and gloom of those other topics.

I prefer using a PC with keyboard and mouse and all the extra stuff you can do with mods and what not on a PC... however I also really enjoy sitting back on my sofa and playing on a console with a big TV. and not just being sat upright at a desk. Also my PS4(original) always sounds like it's going to take off into orbit when I try play most of the games which is really annoying. PC's are more for enthusiasts rather than casuals. There is nothing wrong with being casual... It's called casual for a reason, because you're not that invested or bothered. In fact I put a lot of effort into making a PC and i've barely used it over the years, i've been on my Switch and PS4 more. Edit: I remember a funny quote comparing the two saying "It's like comparing a car to a bus, in what way is a car better than a bus?"

Nice one! Build on the good aspects, don't just make it open world for the sake of putting it on the non existant adverts.

I haven't played more than 1 hour of Serpent, I merely bought it on the look of the game. That's what I mean, I will buy most CRPG's as i 'plan' to at least play them one day. So I don't think of them as rivals, i'd have thought most CRPG fans buy a lot of them. Don't have much comments on the hollywood situation. I'm not really into going to the cinema, in fact the last film I did see at the cinema was a rerelease of 2001 A Space Oddyssey a year or 2 back.I'm not sure if it's the same situation... with DLCs and all that lark associated with 'em. Anyways, with all this said. I don't think any of the modern releases are on the level of BG2 still! BG2 has a massive barrier to entry though with AD&D and being a direct sequel. The last 90's and early 2000's was a great time for RPG's in general. The best Final Fantasy games came out around then, the classic IE games, KOTOR, Deus Ex, Breath of Fire 3/4... man the PS1 had some good JRPG's. Suikoden 1 and 2. No idea where I am going with this. Okay POE is a good game, my problem with it is it feels like a ripoff of the classic games too much. It's almost unfair that the IE games had so much material to go on with all the forgotten realms stuff. It made the worlds feel so much bigger. Edit: After seeing the new Pathfinder game announced i had an obvious realisation, Pathfinder was a success partially(or primarily) due to being from a well established franchise and brand name! As was Divinity, they have both been around for years.

Hmm.. I prefer KOTOR 2 and Neverwinter Nights 2.

3 million eh. I get the impression some of you think that people would only buy Deadfire OR DOS2 and not both. I bought both, also Pathfinder, the Shadowrun games, Serpent in the Staglands... I didn't bother with TTON because all reviews and comments said it isn't even an RPG apparently. So I didn't bother.

Women with beards are being oppressed by the patriarchy!!! Let's dye our hair pink and start a protest.

Been checking GOG sales over the weekend and I haven't noticed Deadfire or any of the expansions at reduced price at all wheras Divinity Original Sin 2 and Pathfinder Kingmaker have. Obsidian just forgot to do anything or don't care anymore now they are part of MS?

I have to say well done, thanks for lightening up this topic.

The budget was too high. Josh even said that the Ship minigame was a black hole of resources. They should have trimmed the fat, focussed on what was important. So even if sales remained like this, at least costs would be lower. Same with full VO, how much has it really added? All these 2 features did were drive Josh to hating CRPG's.

Ermm.. BG3 has been announced. And I probably won't bother. For me the entire series was wrapped up in Throne of Bhaal. This seems really cynical calling it Baldur's Gate 3 when there's no need for any continuation. They just can't leave well enough alone!

Mass Effect 2 is superior to 1 in almost every way. The gameplay in ME1 was hardly anything special. I played it in spite of the mediocre gameplay. ME2 made shooting actually somewhat enjoyable.

Is there even any point bringing it out now? I can online imagine them bringing it out if Epic start making a dent in their business, not because they actually have a good idea for it.