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If we're ranking them by boredom factor j/k Priests are generally good IMO, although some of the casting times could use being snappier. I never pick Boring Death's Door, but ofc other players' mileage may vary. Well... Teclis23 obviously ranks them by usefulness. Else I can't explain statements like But since its the Lord of Auxesis speaking we should maybe take this with a grain of salt... paired with a "Touch of Reason". That would be a nice new priest spell by the way.

Yeah - Druids and Priests would want to get some love in terms of spell choice (looking a grimoires) and spell uses (looking at Vaporous Wizardry). But instead of the planned speciel trinkets for every class we get universal trinkets that give us a 1/rest ability. Argh... Whatever - I played every class so far (not from start to end with every single class obviously, but I like to switch party members a lot during playthroughs) and I don't think there is any that is particularly bad. But you have to find out its strenghts and weaknesses. I personally never liked rangers, fighters and rogues too much in general - but there are certain builds with those classes that are very fun. Even my single class Black Jacket was great (debuffing all defenses like crazy with 4 weapons sets of Morning Star/Club/Flail/Pike).

My experience is completely different. Doing a playthrough with a priest (doesn't need to be single class) followed by one without a priest will show you what you lack. Also priest subclasses are pretty distinct. The most fun with a character I have atm is an Assassin/Priest of Skaen because he can turn invisible 6 times per encounter AND cast support and nuking spells. And then there is the Barring Death's Door + Salvation of Time thing which immediately puts priest into the top ranks. I mean besides buffing the whole party with +15 accuracy which makes an immense difference. Also the single class druid is very nice because very versatile. Great(!) Healing, CC, buffs (PL 3 source of AoE Robust!), nukes - he has it all without the need for a multiclass. Playing a Nature Godlike Animist with the Spine of Thicket Green (it can't get more druidy), Stone of Power and Prestige. His plant and beast offensive spells (Wicked Briars, Insect Swarm, Plague of Insects, Venombloom) and his plant based healings are so powerful (Garden of Life). And then there's Pollen Patch which gets +6 PL from the staff alone... The good thing compared to Wizards is also that most of his DoT spells are foe only and usually come with an affliction. So you do CC/lower defenses and deal damage with one cast. And Plague of Insects' AoE is so huge... I don't even bother with Spiritshifting.

Sure, Shared Flames, Brand Enemy, Lay on Hands, Exalted Auras and stuff are all totally unexiting. I mean I would love to see another active melee ability on a paladin (for example something like "Smite") - but you seem to be up to your neck in hyperbole.

The word "ranger" doesn't stem from ranged weapons though. So one could say that a ranger'salways using a bow is the first trope here.

The mechanics with spiderlings etc. sound pretty sweet. Nice change that.

Hey, I didn't know that. Sweet! That means Grave Calling-->Chilling Grave which does a Chillfog for every skelly that falls by your hand will have +shocking lash and you don't even need to spend phrases for that.

Hi, the enchantments are: Finale (already has) --> Encore: after empowering an Invocation get max phrase points Finale (aleady has) --> Refreshing Finale: after empowering an invocation you get back 3 phrases AND the empower point. Prelude (already has) --> Companion's Prelude: 5m-aura that gives you and your allies +2% stacking attack speed bonus per held phrase point Prelude (already has) --> Shocking Prelude: give yourself (not allies) 2% attack speed per phrase point held and +2% shocking lash per phrase point held. For a single Skald I would recommend Refreshing Finale. This turns Empower into a 1/encounter ability basically AND gives you back 3 phrases. And a single chanter can get Eld Nary - which is supergood when empowered. You can mix that with the high level passives which grant +PEN, +ACC when using empower. It's pretty sweet. For the upgrade of Prelude it depends... as a Skald who wants to attack in melee I would pick Shocking Prelude most of the time I guess. Lashes are strong. You coul dual wield Sasha's with Scordeo's Edge whith Blade Cascade and Adaptive which are quite nice enchantments for a Skald. Another nice alternative could be Grave Calling with Chilling Grave: if you kill your own skeletons (summons) with it you will automatically cast an enemy-only Chillfog which profits from the weapon's enchantments. And Grave Bound works a bit like Shocking Prelude (stacking 2% freezing lash on hit 10 times - then paralyze on every crit). Both nice. I would have to test a lot to say which one I'd like better as buddy of Sasha's. Of course you can pair Sasha's with other weapon types, too. I just think that two sabres look best...

I played dem all! Haha!

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Ah, thanks!

Hm, the patch notes say nothing about melee:

Look at da barb. Barbaric Blow... and it's even double the cost of FoD.

Slicken was just a one-time prone in PoE and not repeating - so actually the Deadfire version is better, but anyways: You will realize how good a priest is if you did a playthrough with one - and then do a playthrough without one. It's always the same with all those classes that don't do the obvious and are not straightforward. Those need a bit more experience to grasp their value. At first lots of people will say "man class x is sooo bad" - and then later that same class lands on the no1. position for the most powerful class in a forum poll.

Really? On a ranger?

Since I don't shift at all the form doesn't matter.

I guess all AoE weapons will be pretty great with Hunter's Claw (and upgrades) because it stacks per hit - and AoE weapons produce a lot of hits in a short time. I also suspect that blunderbusses and Frostseeker will work nicely because they stack the ACC bonus pretty fast (multi-projectile)?

Exactly.

I told you Blade Feast is great with Sacred Immolation.

The only thing is that you usually don't have additive dmg mods for spells besides MIG and crit (and maybe Overpenetration). So the multiplicative dmg bonus of PL on spells is not that obvious as with enchanted weapons and abilities like Sneak Attack where you can stack dmg mods which then get multiplied with the higher base. If base damage gets raised but you have no additional dmg bonuses there's no difference between additive or multiplicative. So Missile Salvo or Meteor Shower or whatever spell would do the same damage with a multiplicative or an additive dmg boost from PL (with 10 MIG and no crit).

Combat log: Obsidian Animat casts Finger of Nerf

Ranger getting even more ACC is nice. Imagine you want to fight a certain endboss. like a dragon: go grab Hunter's Claw and upgrades, kill some cheapo beetles first, then some tigers, then off to the dragon with a huge pile of ACC and dmg bonuses. Also stacks with Red Hand's bonus on kill I hope? It also is a bit nostalgic: D&D rangers had some "enemy" races with special bonuses. But you couldn't change the race. This approach I like better. It's more tactical and you have to plan ahead a bit.

I think the main problem is that FoD is keyworded with fire (which is good) and that +4 Fire PL then leads to a dmg increase of the physical base dmg of the ability (no increase of the burning lash which would make sense but instead the physical base dmg - which doesn't make too much sense). Only universal PL increase should lead to an increase of physical weapon base dmg with an ability. Elemental PLs should only increase the respective elemental dmg, not the underlying pierce/crush/slash/raw dmg. If an ability somehow deals elemental base dmaage then sure: go ahead and increase its base damage with elemental PLs. For example if you use FIrebrand then +fire PLs shoul increase the base damage, since it's base damage is burn. But not in case of a normal estoc or a glowing axe that still does basic slash damage (not burn). If you'd take Bleak Walker's FoD (which is keyworded with fire and acid) and take another item that also increases corrode PL you would see the base dmg (not the lash damage) rise even more. The mechanics of what influences physical dmg and what influences the elemental (lash) dmg are a bit intermingled here.

That totally depends how you play your monk. For example it can be very good to run around and take out single threats like caster asap with Force of Anguish and Barbaric Blow. In this case fists or Eager Blade or so would be better. If you like to flank a bunch of enemies and like to Torment the heck ot of them then WotEP is unmatched I think (except when using Citzel's but that can't happen on a Monk/Berserker). But hey - nothing prevents you from using both: Giftbearer's Cloth is a nice cloak anyway and you can use fists as backup, Eager Blade as main and WotEP for the situations where you wish to do more AoE dmg/CC. Engolio is crass. Everything that kills (and is of your origin) will trigger Ghost Blades. It's a blast with Blood Thirst (only lvl 19 though). BUT: I did a quick test with some bowling pins (aka cre_dummies) and compared Engolio vs WotEP: The speed at which I can kill them all is higher with the WotEP. Of course that is because they don't move and I can always hit all of them (which is the optimal situation for the WotEP). But it shows that when it comes to AoE dmg the WotEP is great until the endgame on such a character. Maybe also because you have a double chance to apply Blood Frenzy with Torment's Reach? Didn't analyze that in depth. Also the reach is nice for cramped up spaces. But all in all Engolio is maybe better because unlike WotEP it's also a good weapon against single targets. So you spare yourself switching and all (except when meeting pierce immune foes). By the way: Ripple Sponge + Sated Ravenous Soul Hunger are a nice match - combined they give you +3 to all stats. Sadly Ripple Sponge's bonus to INT gets suppressed by Duality:INT.

This is also true for some low lvl spells vs high level spells afaik. Insect Swarm nearly does the same dmg per tick (over a longer time) as Plague of Insects (much bigger AoE though). THis usually is balanced by higer base damage of the high level stuff. So it's quite easy to balance this because every spall has its own base damage which can be tweaked rel. savely without breaking stuff. Problem with weapon based abilites is that you can't increase the base damage (of the weapon) to balance high level abilites with low level abilites that get more PL bonus. You often get an additive dmg bonus. Those usually show less impressive results - even if they go quite high. I somethimes think that some devs or designers still don't fully grasp how different those things behave once you pwergame a bit. Putting some kind of lower but multiplicative bonus like a lash would be a better solution in this case. Another thing is "double" PL scaling with Transcended Suffering: your fists' PEN, ACC and add. dmg bonus scale with PL - as well as the dmg bonus of let's say Stunning Surge.