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What would you like to see in a Dungeon Siege IV?


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Keep personal attacks out of your opinions, guys.


There was no personal attack in my previous post. Just true statements. Nobody is required to share his opinion, and basing your opinion of a company on the fans' support is simply ridiculous. That is not sane and logical thought processes.

But I do encourage you to find a solid personal attack or insult in my post and I will do my best to change the words so it's not an attack and more of a statement.

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But I do encourage you to find a solid personal attack or insult in my post and I will do my best to change the words so it's not an attack and more of a statement.

I think the words 'sane' (as used to imply that the person isn't) and 'pathetic' are enough to be considered 'personal attacks'.

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Edit2: Nevermind.

Edited by C2B, 15 July 2011 - 04:20 PM.


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But I do encourage you to find a solid personal attack or insult in my post and I will do my best to change the words so it's not an attack and more of a statement.

I think the words 'sane' (as used to imply that the person isn't) and 'pathetic' are enough to be considered 'personal attacks'.


The way I used sane was in the context of "sane and logical" which is not an insult but a course of action that someone who isn't projecting nonsensical reasoning would follow.
Sorry, but, saying "I don't like Obsidian because the people who like them, like them." It doesn't make sense and it is not a sane or logical statement. Reality is not an insult no matter how harsh it may be.
And as for the word pathetic, I used it in a metaphorical sense. If you have nothing better to do then hang around hating on a company and their products for no other reason than to provoke people who do like the company and enjoy their products. Well, then that is pathetic. That course of action is a pathetic attempt to self-inflate an online ego and persona. Nothing more. I didn't call him pathetic I said his chosen course of actions are. Again reality, no matter how harsh is not an insult. Don't want to be pathetic? Don't pursue pathetic actions.

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My wishlist is basically "more of what's already there".

A longer main quest - I've always thought one more "city" to flesh out the struggle would have been nice. It doesn't have to be a huge area, but just one more major quest that takes place in somewhere new.

More sidequests - This was especially lacking in a place that's supposed to be as big as Stonebridge. I was anticipating a dozen or so sidequests, even if they were of the Fed-Ex variety, but I don't think there was even half that amount.

More companion interaction - Apart from learning about them and conversing when they first join, as well as the odd comment here and there they make and when you influence them, you don't really learn much from them.

I liked the combat, I didn't have any issues with the graphics, and the game was surprisingly bug-free (for me). So from the technical side, I don't have any suggestions for improvement. It boils down more to the "meat" of the quests I'd like to see bulked up for the next installment.

this.

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More side-quest, party interaction (and possibly a crafting system) would summarize what I mean by "make it more of a proper RPG". Admittedly, that's a very low entry bar, but with the current state of the genre. :p

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More side-quest, party interaction (and possibly a crafting system) would summarize what I mean by "make it more of a proper RPG". Admittedly, that's a very low entry bar, but with the current state of the genre. :p



Oh, ok. :) What I liked about DSIII was that the companions also interacted with the NPCs at times. I hope they build up on that too.

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-A mini sim game like rebuilding the chapterhouse as well as recruiting Legionnaire followers similar to Suikoden or NWN2 town building would be nice. This at least solves some money sink issue of the game.


What an excellent idea, things like that really make games better, similar to this.

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But I do encourage you to find a solid personal attack or insult in my post and I will do my best to change the words so it's not an attack and more of a statement.

I think the words 'sane' (as used to imply that the person isn't) and 'pathetic' are enough to be considered 'personal attacks'.


The way I used sane was in the context of "sane and logical" which is not an insult but a course of action that someone who isn't projecting nonsensical reasoning would follow.
Sorry, but, saying "I don't like Obsidian because the people who like them, like them." It doesn't make sense and it is not a sane or logical statement. Reality is not an insult no matter how harsh it may be.
And as for the word pathetic, I used it in a metaphorical sense. If you have nothing better to do then hang around hating on a company and their products for no other reason than to provoke people who do like the company and enjoy their products. Well, then that is pathetic. That course of action is a pathetic attempt to self-inflate an online ego and persona. Nothing more. I didn't call him pathetic I said his chosen course of actions are. Again reality, no matter how harsh is not an insult. Don't want to be pathetic? Don't pursue pathetic actions.


I just have a problem with streamlined games that cut features from a genre I consider essential. And fans congratulating the devs for doing so is just irksome.

I hate streamlining and I can't stand it when people allow themselves to believe the marketing hype. Streamlining is done to make the development easier and cut corners and it doesn't help fans/consumers of video games in any way.

If a great team like Obsidian is going to keep producing streamlined corner cutting games then I would rather see them not make games at all.

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Also, I don't care if any of you insult me, as long as its fair and I can fight back. Up to now it hasn't been and I have had posts deleted with far less offensive stances than what you took towards me Talon. I'm not saying I want Talon censored or his posts removed because I don't, he can say whatever he feels like saying. It just doesn't work both ways around here.
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These boards are pretty dead anyway, as is apparently interest in Dungeon Siege 3 so good luck on a sequel ... good luck even getting any kind of content rich DLC (maybe you will get some item packs).
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You guys can say whatever you want about my opinion but Dungeon Siege 3 was NOT a hit and rubbed many gamers the wrong way and the major ciritcisms not only were shared all around the net but alos were big concerns before the game went Gold. Obsidian chose the path of ignorance and chose to not heed fan requests and warnings about the mechanics of the game and they did so at their own peril.
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I will sit and argue with all of you and you can insult me all day long. I just want the same treatment.

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You know your whole reasoning and at the same time praising Obsidians older games doesn't make a lick of sense when you can attribute the same critisisms to said games. (Especially Alpha Protocol which you seem to like) (And I'm saying that as someone who absolutly loves every Obsidian game)

Short answer and what you are in particular

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Also I opened this topic to state and discuss what people would like to see in a Dungeon Siege IV. Not for you to just misuse it again like you did other topics.

Thats why I'm now gonna ask Tigranes to remove all the posts regarding this whole drama in this topic (naturally that includes this post)

Edited by C2B, 17 July 2011 - 09:14 AM.


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My post went a little off topic. I agree. I had to respond to Talon though.

My point stands I don't want to see anything in Dungeon Siege 4 because DS3 is far too streamlined.

You asked what people want to see in DS4. I'm a person. I don't want to see anything in DS4. I don't want to see a Dungeon Siege 4 because the developers don't value the same kind of features and gameplay I value in an ARPG.

My point is clear and succinct. Nothing needs to be deleted. You guys want features in DS4, I want the DS franchise to just go away and never return. Our opinions are different and who cares, that's how it goes.

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I dont care what they do to DS 4 really.As long as Obsidian doesn't develope it, im more then happy.

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I dont care what they do to DS 4 really.As long as Obsidian doesn't develope it, im more then happy.

more or less, the Dungeon Siege legacy has already been destroyed by Obsidian... so meh whatever.

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I'd rather see a Space Siege 2, myself.

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I'd rather see a Space Siege 2, myself.


I think you broke my sarcasm meter. I demand you buy me a new one.

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I'd rather see a Space Siege 2, myself.


I think you broke my sarcasm meter. I demand you buy me a new one.

Take it up with the manufacturer.

There's nothing wrong with Space Siege and it's practically begging for the Obsidian touch™. You have the choice to add cyborg bits to yourself, but there are no consequences. Obsidian is probably itching to try something new with a more open sci-fi IP than Star Wars. It's essentially free money.

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You have the choice to add cyborg bits to yourself, but there are no consequences.

You don't get the girl.

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You have the choice to add cyborg bits to yourself, but there are no consequences.

You don't get the girl.


Really? I would imagine certain cybernetic enhancements would would make him extremely popular.

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@Vir: You're right, but think how much deeper Obsidian could delve into what it means to be human, unlike say, ME2 where you can look like the Terminator's stunt double and no one will blink an eye...

Edited by Purkake, 22 July 2011 - 09:17 AM.


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There's nothing wrong with Space Siege


That may not be the biggest compliment anyone ever paid to a game, but you know what? I own that game and forgot all about it. I bought it when I was on a strictly FPS/RPG kick and the whole top-down/point-and-click thing annoyed the piss out of me back then. I didn't get further than five minutes into it.

Now that I've beaten Dungeon Siege III, your mentioning Space Siege made me realize I might finally be in a mood for such a game, and I am! I'm actually quite enjoying it. It's cool because now that I have the capacity to appreciate this type of RPG, I feel like I just won a brand-new game!

I know you don't directly deserve/want thanks, but thanks! :sorcerer:




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