Politics Princess' Sweet Sixteen

[ShadySands]

Citigroup Becomes First Major Bank to Restrict Some Gun Sales

 

Citigroup Inc. plans to prohibit retailers that are customers of the bank from offering bump stocks or selling guns to people who haven’t passed a background check or are younger than 21.

 

The bank is imposing the restrictions on companies that use it to issue store credit-cards or for lending and other services, according to a memo Thursday. The lender also barred the sale of high-capacity magazines.

 

Thoughts?

[Bartimaeus]

...Doesn't really seem like something a bank should be involved with.

 

We just select the "lesser of two evils" then they go do whatever they want for 2 or 6 years then mostly likely (80-90% chance) get reelected

Well...sort of. Primaries are where we're supposed to select our candidates that are supposed to better represent our interests, but we're notoriously bad at bothering with them. With people never bothering to actually vote in the primaries, it's not a surprise that the candidates are often terrible.

Edited March 22, 2018 by Bartimaeus

[ShadySands]

Fun with infographics. Click images for source.

 

 

 

Edited March 22, 2018 by ShadySands

[smjjames]

Trump just replaced National Security Advisor H.R. McMaster with John Bolton. RIP peace.

[Bartimaeus]

A few weeks ago: "Trump calls report of looming McMaster exit 'fake news,' aide says": https://www.politico.com/story/2018/03/01/white-house-hr-mcmaster-exit-432698

Edited March 22, 2018 by Bartimaeus

[smjjames]

I suppose theres a slight silver lining in that while his ire has been mainly at Iran and NK, I don't imagine him having any love at all for Russia.

[Bartimaeus]

The opposite, actually. He has been pro-Russia over at least the last few years.

[smjjames]

Really? I wonder what his opinion is on the election meddling and stuff then.

[ShadySands]

Really? I wonder what his opinion is on the election meddling and stuff then.

There is only one solution to the Russian problem, bomb Iran.

[Bartimaeus]

Really? I wonder what his opinion is on the election meddling and stuff then.

If he's like most other Republicans, I imagine he's somewhere between quietly and loudly for it.

[Zoraptor]

 

Really? I wonder what his opinion is on the election meddling and stuff then.

There is only one solution to the Russian problem, bomb Iran.

 

 

Yep, Bolton never met a problem that couldn't be solved by bombing someone, preferably Iran. It will be 'fun' to see if the rest of the west contorts itself to support it or if it causes an actual split like Iraq did, but either way Bolton never met a foreign affairs problem that couldn't be bombed out of existence. Well, except Afghanistan and Iraq but they totally would have worked if people had just listened to him and upped the bombing until it worked.

[HoonDing]

err whats there to bomb in Afghanistan

[Gromnir]

err whats there to bomb in Afghanistan

poppy fields?

 

HA! Good Fun!

[Malcador]

err whats there to bomb in Afghanistan

Rocks, into little rocks.

[injurai]

Citigroup Becomes First Major Bank to Restrict Some Gun Sales

 

Citigroup Inc. plans to prohibit retailers that are customers of the bank from offering bump stocks or selling guns to people who haven’t passed a background check or are younger than 21.

 

The bank is imposing the restrictions on companies that use it to issue store credit-cards or for lending and other services, according to a memo Thursday. The lender also barred the sale of high-capacity magazines.

 

Thoughts?

 

Seems weird to be coming down from a bank, on the other hand some banks give you a gun when opening an account.

 

Policy-wise, I think it's fine. I'm all for tighter gun restrictions.

[Guard Dog]

Citigroup Becomes First Major Bank to Restrict Some Gun Sales

 

Citigroup Inc. plans to prohibit retailers that are customers of the bank from offering bump stocks or selling guns to people who haven’t passed a background check or are younger than 21.

 

The bank is imposing the restrictions on companies that use it to issue store credit-cards or for lending and other services, according to a memo Thursday. The lender also barred the sale of high-capacity magazines.

 

Thoughts?

I'm fine with it. Citibank is free to operate as it pleases. If you don't like the restrictions Citibank places on you then you are free not to do business with them. There are other card providers that will write your store cards.

 

I have not problem whatsoever with this kind of thing. If I owned a gun store and chose not to sell bump stocks that is all me. You don't like it? There are other gun stores. If You-Know-Who Sporting Goods chain decides not to sell AR-15s then good for them. If you want to buy and AR-15 go somewhere else. Kroger does not sell them either but I still shop there.

 

You can choose what you sell, what you buy and who from. And that is how it should be. But once the goddamned government gets into it all the choice is gone, now it's force and compulsion and kicking down doors.

[Valsuelm]

Citigroup Becomes First Major Bank to Restrict Some Gun Sales

 

Citigroup Inc. plans to prohibit retailers that are customers of the bank from offering bump stocks or selling guns to people who haven’t passed a background check or are younger than 21.

 

The bank is imposing the restrictions on companies that use it to issue store credit-cards or for lending and other services, according to a memo Thursday. The lender also barred the sale of high-capacity magazines.

 

Thoughts?

 

My thought is the emperor took his clothes off and is mockingly flashing the world, laughing as most don't even know he's the emperor.

 

 

"The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist"

 

 

It's increasingly looking like there may come a point that the devil can openly dance over the masses and they don't even realize who's dancing on them. When he doesn't even need to pretend anymore, the darkness that will fall will last centuries if not longer.

[Guard Dog]

Wow, three responses with three very different opinions. injurai thinks its great. I'm indifferent, and Val thinks this moves us one step closer to the tyranny of moral busybodies. Or the subjugation of the word under the reign of Satan , depending on who literally you want to read his response.

[Valsuelm]

OK, I watched the video Val linked. That was actually pretty interesting stuff. Although I think the outrage was a little misdirected. In the example they discussed a "wealthy foreign investor" offers a candidate a deal too good to be true. A major campaign cash infusion for a sweetheart land deal after they are elected. The candidate agrees and the whole thing is on video because it was a set up. The implication that a set up such as this is unethical. Perhaps it is. But what definitely is unethical is a candidate being willing to take a bribe for a sweetheart land deal.

 

A lot of angst was raised over the DNC e-mail leaks during the 2016 election here. But what a lot of people seemed to miss is that the only reason this was a thing is the people in the DNC behaved like a band of arrogant, self-righteous little s---s who insulted everyone not them. Even people who where mostly on their team. Had they conducted their business with even a modicum of the professionalism expected in the real business world there would have been nothing juicy to find. The problem with the collusion between CNN & the DNC to undermine Sanders isn't that it was exposed. The outrage should have been that it WAS happening to BE exposed.

 

The problem isn't diffing up dirt and dirty secrets on political candidates. It's that there is dirt and dirty secrets to be dug up. If the politicians are unethical then how can you expect your government to be ethical. They (Cambridge Analytical) are not talking about making things up. Just exposing what is already there and targeting who gets exposed to what. The only difference between what is being done now as opposed to the past is the scale and sheer number of people you can reach.

 

But in the end all of this depends on the target of the message believing the message. When they walk into a voting booth there is one one else in there but them. No Russians trolls, no Wikileaks, and no Cambridge Analytical). People will get the government they deserve. And the "the people" are a band of gullible fools that believe everything they are told or see on the internet then they don't deserve and ethical government. And they surely won't have one. As Abraham Lincoln once said "The problem with quotes found on the internet is that they are often not true". And I know he said that because I saw a picture of him with that quote on the internet.

 

One last thought. The real root cause of this whole sorry mess is the dependence people have on their governments.  They have become dependent on them for social welfare, health care, damn near everything required to live. That makes those governments big and powerful and that attracts the unethical types who abuse that power and the people under it. If you (as a people) resolve to take care of your own selves and families and not depend of the benefice of people in government who don't give a f--k about you anyway then you won't need the "all powerful state" f------g you over and getting filthy rich on your taxes. If you have a government so small you could drown in like a rat in a bucket of water you really don't need to ly awake worrying about who is running it.

 

Just my $.02

 

I must say... that's a hell of an interesting interpretation of

 

 

or was it another video I linked?

 

 

I am far from tiring linking or watching this video.

 

Germans, Mongols, Soviets, Disco, whatever you call those things they're wearing.... the dancing.... wooooooooo!!

 

My deepest thanks to whoever posted this in the music thread a year or two back. I forget who you are.... but thank you!!

 

 

[Guard Dog]

Sorry Val, I meant the one HD linked 

[Gromnir]

Wow, three responses with three very different opinions. injurai thinks its great. I'm indifferent, and Val thinks this moves us one step closer to the tyranny of moral busybodies. Or the subjugation of the word under the reign of Satan , depending on who literally you want to read his response.

 

 

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from a practical standpoint, the citicorp decision is akin to dunkin donuts announcing they will no longer allow bump stocks and expanded magazines to be sold at any o' their franchise locations.  this is a whole lotta nothing.

 

HA! Good Fun!

[smjjames]

How exactly would they enforce it anyway?

 

Banks aren't usually in the business of telling their customers what they can or can't sell.

[Elerond]

 

Citigroup Becomes First Major Bank to Restrict Some Gun Sales

 

Citigroup Inc. plans to prohibit retailers that are customers of the bank from offering bump stocks or selling guns to people who haven’t passed a background check or are younger than 21.

 

The bank is imposing the restrictions on companies that use it to issue store credit-cards or for lending and other services, according to a memo Thursday. The lender also barred the sale of high-capacity magazines.

 

Thoughts?

 

Seems weird to be coming down from a bank, on the other hand some banks give you a gun when opening an account.

 

Policy-wise, I think it's fine. I'm all for tighter gun restrictions.

 

 

Banks have put similar restrictions for example for porn and legal gambling quite lot. And sometimes they are just jerks and close accounts, without giving any reason or warning, for businesses involved in mentioned industries. Usually banks target industries that aren't seen favorably by society.  

 

[Elerond]

How exactly would they enforce it anyway?

 

Banks aren't usually in the business of telling their customers what they can or can't sell.

 

They will most likely just close company's accounts and cancel all the store credit cards that they have issued to company's customers, which will cause quite lot problems for the company

[Gromnir]

How exactly would they enforce it anyway?

 

Banks aren't usually in the business of telling their customers what they can or can't sell.

is not restricting purchasers from buying bumpstocks and expanded magazines. 

 

"Citigroup, the largest issuer of credit cards in the world, said its policy won’t stop cardholders in its consumer business from shopping at merchants of their choice."

 

is restricting retailers from using their lending services.

 

"The bank is imposing the restrictions on companies that use it to issue store credit-cards or for lending and other services, according to a memo Thursday."

 

this is a non story as citibank doesn't have any such entanglements with sellers o' bumpstocks and expanded magazines.

 

HA! Good Fun!

Edited March 23, 2018 by Gromnir