Ethics Gradient Posted March 30, 2018 Posted March 30, 2018 The Deadfire Beta has been rumbling really hard on steam lately, and that could be an indication that the next beta might be here real soon. The last time the private-stable branch saw this much movement, Beta 3 synced on the public branch less than a day later. 12
fortuntek Posted March 30, 2018 Posted March 30, 2018 I have no idea what anything in that link means but I suspect you sir are the real wizard here 3
Ethics Gradient Posted March 30, 2018 Posted March 30, 2018 I have no idea what anything in that link means but I suspect you sir are the real wizard here In short, none of that has to mean anything, but one can watch the patterns and make educated guesses when something might be coming down the line. Every time there is a change to a steam title, the fact that there was a change goes on something of a public record. By watching the timing of those changes you can get a feel for when to start expecting updates. With regards to the Backer Beta, updates on the Public branch (what we see) have followed shortly after there were updates to the (internal only) Stable and press branches. Again, you can't read too much into the logs. Maybe the internal team finds a bug as they're gearing up for Beta 4. Maybe the updates only concern the GM version. Maybe this is just all prep for a PAX East press build. There's honestly no way to know for sure. But in any event, its just another tool to glimpse the pace of development. 3
thelee Posted March 30, 2018 Posted March 30, 2018 If Obsidian can’t ship a beta patch covering a small slice of the game on schedule, less than a week before the full game was slated to ship, how were they ever going to ship the full game on April 3 in the first place? I feel like if you worked in any major tech enterprise you would know how silly this sentiment is. Just the act of releasing something is a time-suck and a distraction. I work on a team that makes twice-weekly binary pushes (and it's a web app, so no complicated steam/GOG rollouts), and we have dedicated release rotations and testing engineers and infrastructure to make that happen, and even then sometimes we back out on a release if we can't aren't able to get our act together. And I work at a large company; Obsidian is puny by comparison. 1
bleedthefreak Posted March 30, 2018 Posted March 30, 2018 If Obsidian can’t ship a beta patch covering a small slice of the game on schedule, less than a week before the full game was slated to ship, how were they ever going to ship the full game on April 3 in the first place? I feel like if you worked in any major tech enterprise you would know how silly this sentiment is. Just the act of releasing something is a time-suck and a distraction. I work on a team that makes twice-weekly binary pushes (and it's a web app, so no complicated steam/GOG rollouts), and we have dedicated release rotations and testing engineers and infrastructure to make that happen, and even then sometimes we back out on a release if we can't aren't able to get our act together. And I work at a large company; Obsidian is puny by comparison. Most gamers don't really understand how code development works. Lasweetlife probably thinks his inflammatory post will goad Obsidian into getting the beta out faster to "prove him wrong". Like that's how it really works. 3
Silvaren Posted March 30, 2018 Posted March 30, 2018 Do you think that the final game can be delayed once again? Another beta=new feedback.
bleedthefreak Posted March 30, 2018 Posted March 30, 2018 When we get a beta update, it will probably be one of those things where stuff we discover/feedback we produce will possibly make it into a day 1 patch, but not the release version. Which is fine by me, I fully expect and would be disappointed if we didn't have a day 1 patch.
Dr. Hieronymous Alloy Posted March 30, 2018 Posted March 30, 2018 I have no idea what anything in that link means but I suspect you sir are the real wizard here In short, none of that has to mean anything, but one can watch the patterns and make educated guesses when something might be coming down the line. Every time there is a change to a steam title, the fact that there was a change goes on something of a public record. By watching the timing of those changes you can get a feel for when to start expecting updates. With regards to the Backer Beta, updates on the Public branch (what we see) have followed shortly after there were updates to the (internal only) Stable and press branches. Again, you can't read too much into the logs. Maybe the internal team finds a bug as they're gearing up for Beta 4. Maybe the updates only concern the GM version. Maybe this is just all prep for a PAX East press build. There's honestly no way to know for sure. But in any event, its just another tool to glimpse the pace of development. What I'm hearing is: if there isn't a beta by the end of the day, I should get so angry my underwear twists itself into tight little knots
bleedthefreak Posted March 30, 2018 Posted March 30, 2018 Your underwear may indeed be safe from twisting. 4
IndiraLightfoot Posted March 30, 2018 Posted March 30, 2018 Hura! *** "The words of someone who feels ever more the ent among saplings when playing CRPGs" ***
CottonWolf Posted March 30, 2018 Posted March 30, 2018 Is today not a holiday in the US? It is here in the UK.
bleedthefreak Posted March 30, 2018 Posted March 30, 2018 Is today not a holiday in the US? It is here in the UK. I don't think so. Is today "Good Friday"? I looked and all I can find is today is National Doctor's Day. It's Easter on Sunday, of course, but today seems like a normal day for most US places. I don't even think Good Friday is a "no work" type of holiday.
SaruNi Posted March 30, 2018 Posted March 30, 2018 Not in most US states, including California. Don't know what Obsidian's ethno-religious makeup is, but for observant Jewish people, Pesach starts at sundown.
bleedthefreak Posted March 30, 2018 Posted March 30, 2018 Not in most US states, including California. I for one do indeed include California in the US.
CottonWolf Posted March 30, 2018 Posted March 30, 2018 Cool. Cheers. And yeah, in the UK the bank holiday's for Good Friday officially. Most people aren't observant anymore, but we keep the religious days off.
SaruNi Posted March 30, 2018 Posted March 30, 2018 Not in most US states, including California. I for one do indeed include California in the US. Yes, but it's not one of the states in which it's a holiday---specifically, "Connecticut, Texas, Delaware, Hawaii, Indiana, Tennessee, Florida, Kentucky, Louisiana, New Jersey, North Carolina and North Dakota." (What a random seeming list... I'd expected Texas and Louisiana because of Catholicism. But why North Dakota and North Carolina, but not South Dakota and South Carolina?)
rothamon81 Posted March 30, 2018 Posted March 30, 2018 Here we call it 'Karfreitag'. For some it is a holiday, for most it isn't anymore.
Aarik D Posted March 30, 2018 Posted March 30, 2018 We're still here working away! And the Backer Update is coming! SUPER SOON! 12 Obsidian Discord || Grounded Discord
Ethics Gradient Posted March 30, 2018 Posted March 30, 2018 We're still here working away! And the Backer Update is coming! SUPER SOON! Its here! It's here! Well, it's on steam at least. Haven't checked GOG.
SaruNi Posted March 30, 2018 Posted March 30, 2018 (edited) We're still here working away! And the Backer Update is coming! SUPER SOON! Its here! It's here! Well, it's on steam at least. Haven't checked GOG. Where on Steam? I'm using Steam and I don't see any indication.... Edit: Ah, now it's working. Edited March 30, 2018 by SaruNi
Wormerine Posted March 30, 2018 Posted March 30, 2018 It's on GOG as well. I really miss my old 10mb/s internet right now.
Logos Posted March 30, 2018 Posted March 30, 2018 Yo Josh, I speak German too. Hit me with a weekend update, I wouldn't ****ing care. "Of all the kids in The Breakfast Club, Ally Sheedy would be the first one to sense Cthulhu's coming." -Patton Oswalt
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