US Elections 2016

[Calax]

 

 

Hahaha, the GOP are scrapping the rule of a candidate having to win 8 states in order to be eligible. You know, the very rule imposted in 2012 in order to unseat any delegate for Ron Paul.

 

http://stumpinfortrump.com/2016/03/26/no-one-looking-rnc-changed-rules-no-longer-8-states-required/

So they plan to select John Kasich if it's a brokered convention?

 

 

I am not well versed in lawspeak, but from i gather it could be practically anyone, even those that have dropped out.

 

Kasich would be their best bet if they wanted to win the general election. Although their unpleasable base would prefer Cruz at this point, with Marco Rubio being the Joke option. 

[Guard Dog]

 

 

 

Hahaha, the GOP are scrapping the rule of a candidate having to win 8 states in order to be eligible. You know, the very rule imposted in 2012 in order to unseat any delegate for Ron Paul.

 

http://stumpinfortrump.com/2016/03/26/no-one-looking-rnc-changed-rules-no-longer-8-states-required/

So they plan to select John Kasich if it's a brokered convention?

 

 

I am not well versed in lawspeak, but from i gather it could be practically anyone, even those that have dropped out.

 

Kasich would be their best bet if they wanted to win the general election. Although their unpleasable base would prefer Cruz at this point, with Marco Rubio being the Joke option. 

 

Rubio is out.

 

 

For my $.02 I say "None of the Above". There is not a single person running for President right now I'd want to see win. In any party. Once the bowl flush is completed in November one of these turds will still be floating and they will do it by somehow being less repugnant than all the other choices. Hopefully 2020 will be better.

[Guard Dog]

 

Also

http://www.snopes.com/cuban-refugees-clinging-to-air-force-one/

 

 I love it when the Onion is taken as a real news source!

[Oerwinde]

 

 

 

http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/03/26/mvd-error-might-have-kicked-arizona-voters-out-parties/82278442/

 

In Arizona MVD maybe behind members from both parties losing their party membership. I must say that US political system is very interesting.

I love the fact that a system error in the DMV is automatically attributed to "Somebody's rigging the system!"

 

Also

http://www.snopes.com/cuban-refugees-clinging-to-air-force-one/

 

Why would party affiliation be stored in the same database as driver information? I ask as a Canadian where political parties have their own member database rather than the government holding it.

 

Down here, the DMV is basically your one stop shop for any form of registration. Either there or the Post Office, as both are the primary ways the government knows where you live and your primary form of interaction with the Government. For the most part the DMV is where most people register to vote so they have to have that info on file.

 

And yes, the parties do have their own lists of people behind them, but for the most part the federal election commission goes by the DMV selections people make, rather than by what the parties say.

 

 

Ahh, leadership races here are a party thing not a government thing. The parties organize the leadership elections rather than Elections Canada. I guess if the government organizes the election it makes sense to register your party affiliation with the government.

[Agiel]

While it might not be a fantastic way of spending your Easter weekend, you can get a sobering look into Trump's mind through the transcripts of his interviews on his foreign policy in the New York Times and the Washington Post:

 

Most politicians up until now generally find ways of saying non-committal things dressed up in purple prose, yet Trump manages to get the same general point out while legitimately sounding like a 1st-grader with Alzheimer's.

Edited March 28, 2016 by Agiel

[Calax]

 

 

 

 

http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/03/26/mvd-error-might-have-kicked-arizona-voters-out-parties/82278442/

 

In Arizona MVD maybe behind members from both parties losing their party membership. I must say that US political system is very interesting.

I love the fact that a system error in the DMV is automatically attributed to "Somebody's rigging the system!"

 

Also

http://www.snopes.com/cuban-refugees-clinging-to-air-force-one/

 

Why would party affiliation be stored in the same database as driver information? I ask as a Canadian where political parties have their own member database rather than the government holding it.

 

Down here, the DMV is basically your one stop shop for any form of registration. Either there or the Post Office, as both are the primary ways the government knows where you live and your primary form of interaction with the Government. For the most part the DMV is where most people register to vote so they have to have that info on file.

 

And yes, the parties do have their own lists of people behind them, but for the most part the federal election commission goes by the DMV selections people make, rather than by what the parties say.

 

 

Ahh, leadership races here are a party thing not a government thing. The parties organize the leadership elections rather than Elections Canada. I guess if the government organizes the election it makes sense to register your party affiliation with the government.

 

Basically yeah. In both Britian and Canada, and most places with a Prime Minister, that Minister is selected by who wins the lower races. So at the national level the political machine is firmly entrenched, but reliant on who wins the local senatorial election. In America, I could vote for Steve "Can't get pregnant via rape" King locally, but Obama on the national level.

[Zoraptor]

Since it hasn't been mentioned previously Bernie won the three caucuses (Hawaii, Alaska, Washington) from yesterday, all by around 50%.
 

Kasich would be their best bet if they wanted to win the general election. Although their unpleasable base would prefer Cruz at this point, with Marco Rubio being the Joke option.

 

They'd have to go Kasich, surely. I presume that's the only reason he's still in the race.

 

(Do you have to be an active declared candidate for a brokered convention? For a contested one it seems obvious you'd have to be, but I kind of presumed a brokered one could have a wildcard candidate. Not that it really matters, since there isn't an obvious wildcard candidate in any case)

[Elerond]

 

 

 

 

 

http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/03/26/mvd-error-might-have-kicked-arizona-voters-out-parties/82278442/

 

In Arizona MVD maybe behind members from both parties losing their party membership. I must say that US political system is very interesting.

I love the fact that a system error in the DMV is automatically attributed to "Somebody's rigging the system!"

 

Also

http://www.snopes.com/cuban-refugees-clinging-to-air-force-one/

 

Why would party affiliation be stored in the same database as driver information? I ask as a Canadian where political parties have their own member database rather than the government holding it.

 

Down here, the DMV is basically your one stop shop for any form of registration. Either there or the Post Office, as both are the primary ways the government knows where you live and your primary form of interaction with the Government. For the most part the DMV is where most people register to vote so they have to have that info on file.

 

And yes, the parties do have their own lists of people behind them, but for the most part the federal election commission goes by the DMV selections people make, rather than by what the parties say.

 

 

Ahh, leadership races here are a party thing not a government thing. The parties organize the leadership elections rather than Elections Canada. I guess if the government organizes the election it makes sense to register your party affiliation with the government.

 

Basically yeah. In both Britian and Canada, and most places with a Prime Minister, that Minister is selected by who wins the lower races. So at the national level the political machine is firmly entrenched, but reliant on who wins the local senatorial election. In America, I could vote for Steve "Can't get pregnant via rape" King locally, but Obama on the national level.

 

 

But most places that have some sort parliamentary system have different systems for local elections and national elections.

 

Which is why I can for example vote in local elections different party than when I vote in parliamentary elections or presidential elections. 

 

In other words: there are different representatives in local and national level and I directly give my vote for both of them

Edited March 28, 2016 by Elerond

[Valsuelm]

(Do you have to be an active declared candidate for a brokered convention? ....)

 

Nope. Anyone who is constitutionally qualified to be President can potentially be nominated. It has happened before, more than once, though it's been quite some time since it has, and all of the examples I can think of (Garfield probably being the best one) happened prior to voting primaries being a thing.

Edited March 28, 2016 by Valsuelm

[Bartimaeus]

Since it hasn't been mentioned previously Bernie won the three caucuses (Hawaii, Alaska, Washington) from yesterday, all by around 50%.

If only Super Saturday had gone a bit better...things would be looking very promising for Bernie. As of now, things still look extremely grim.

Edited March 28, 2016 by Bartimaeus

[Valsuelm]

Some propaganda is better than other propaganda:

 

Edited March 28, 2016 by Valsuelm

[Rostere]

Basically yeah. In both Britian and Canada, and most places with a Prime Minister, that Minister is selected by who wins the lower races. So at the national level the political machine is firmly entrenched, but reliant on who wins the local senatorial election. In America, I could vote for Steve "Can't get pregnant via rape" King locally, but Obama on the national level.

 

What? In most places with a prime minister local elections are separate from national elections. I think what you mean to say is that the legislature elects the government.

 

I love the fact that a system error in the DMV is automatically attributed to "Somebody's rigging the system!"

 

A system error?

 

Did you watch the video I linked before? Someone had submitted a new form with the same copied signature but with no party allegiance for a woman. I don't know how much you know about how databases typically work, but the notion that a "system error" consists of scanned documents being edited and re-submitted is absurd. Do you even think they have a system in place for automatically visually editing scanned documents? This kind of thing just can't happen.

 

It won't amount to anything. Everyone knows how corrupt the democratic party is and it's never stopped leftists from voting for them before.

 

But surely you must always try to change what you can? Inertia is the only enabler of corruption.

[Calax]

 

Basically yeah. In both Britian and Canada, and most places with a Prime Minister, that Minister is selected by who wins the lower races. So at the national level the political machine is firmly entrenched, but reliant on who wins the local senatorial election. In America, I could vote for Steve "Can't get pregnant via rape" King locally, but Obama on the national level.

 

What? In most places with a prime minister local elections are separate from national elections. I think what you mean to say is that the legislature elects the government.

 

You are correct sir.

[Zoraptor]

 

Basically yeah. In both Britian and Canada, and most places with a Prime Minister, that Minister is selected by who wins the lower races. So at the national level the political machine is firmly entrenched, but reliant on who wins the local senatorial election. In America, I could vote for Steve "Can't get pregnant via rape" King locally, but Obama on the national level.

 

What? In most places with a prime minister local elections are separate from national elections. I think what you mean to say is that the legislature elects the government.

 

 

I presume he means 'constituency' and 'member of parliament' rather than local body/ council elections for 'local senatorial'. Because they generally do elect the PM, with some exceptions and if you don't have that system you probably don't know the correct technical terms- much as non US people will often get Congress/ Senate/ House and their functions mixed up.

[Meshugger]

Some propaganda is better than other propaganda:

 

 

Was that read by Trump?

 

In other news, Taibbi of Rolling Stone blasts his own editor for supporting Hillary: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/why-young-people-are-right-about-hillary-clinton-20160325

 

And they're voting for Sanders because his idea of an entirely voter-funded electoral "revolution" that bars corporate money is, no matter what its objective chances of success, the only practical road left to break what they perceive to be an inexorable pattern of corruption.

 

This guy gets it. It's not about Bernie the person per see, or what their opinion on different government policies are; it's what they represent. They are simply the face of the forces brewing in society underneath. 

[Drowsy Emperor]

You guys are taking this far too seriously

[Elerond]

 

In other news, Taibbi of Rolling Stone blasts his own editor for supporting Hillary: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/why-young-people-are-right-about-hillary-clinton-20160325

 

 

Any magazine that allows their journalist to write against their editorial board gets bonus points in my eyes, regardless of issue in question. 

[Namutree]

Kasich would be their best bet if they wanted to win the general election. 

Kasich would have no chance in the general election. Trump is the GOP's only chance at a win. 

[Elerond]

 

Kasich would be their best bet if they wanted to win the general election. 

Kasich would have no chance in the general election. Trump is the GOP's only chance at a win. 

 

 

According to general election polls, he is their best change to lose.

[Namutree]

 

 

Kasich would be their best bet if they wanted to win the general election. 

Kasich would have no chance in the general election. Trump is the GOP's only chance at a win. 

 

 

According to general election polls, he is their best change to lose.

 

You also need to pay attention to energy. Nobody really wants Kasich. He'll get poor turnout. It'll be 2012 all over again if Kasich is the nominee. Besides, just wait till the anti-Trump media campaign shifts focus to Kasich. One should keep in mind that while Trump's been attacked nonstop by the MSM, Kasich has been largely left alone. That will change if Kasich becomes the nominee.

[PK htiw klaw eriF]

I doubt Kasich will see the same attacks as Trump. Certainly will get it from Democrat supporters, but I think he'd get more support from Fox and other Republican media organs than Trump.

[Elerond]

 

 

 

Kasich would be their best bet if they wanted to win the general election. 

Kasich would have no chance in the general election. Trump is the GOP's only chance at a win. 

 

 

According to general election polls, he is their best change to lose.

 

You also need to pay attention to energy. Nobody really wants Kasich. He'll get poor turnout. It'll be 2012 all over again if Kasich is the nominee. Besides, just wait till the anti-Trump media campaign shifts focus to Kasich. One should keep in mind that while Trump's been attacked nonstop by the MSM, Kasich has been largely left alone. That will change if Kasich becomes the nominee.

 

 

But Kasich also don't have similar anti movement as Trump, and if Trump isn't in picture and Clinton wins democrat nomination, then prediction for general election turn out is low, which usually is favorable for GOP candidates. But if Trump is nominees then it is deemed that turn out will be high and there will be lots of people that vote against Trump regardless who democrat candidate is. Although Kasich's support in general election is more difficult to predict than other candidates as lots of people don't really believe that he can win the nomination so their answers in polls about him aren't necessary that well thought.

[Valsuelm]

 

Some propaganda is better than other propaganda:

 

Was that read by Trump?

 

Yes. Apparently he's taken to reading some poetry at some of his rallies.

[Valsuelm]

Kascich will never will the general election.

[Hurlshort]

Kascich will never will the general election.

 

Over Clinton?  I am not ready to commit to that.  She is very beatable.