Journalism and Bias in the Gaming Industry

[PK htiw klaw eriF]

Please don't mistake the length of my posts with how much I care.

When I see someone talking to Bruce, I imagine them shouting at a brick wall with a smiley face painted on it.

 

 

Clearly he does it so you can fill your signature with choice quotes.

The latest is the most outrageous of all!

 

And the most obviously false.

[Meshugger]

 

 

 

****ing Frankfurt School and all their disciples. Obfuscators in the search of truth, rapers of beauty, celebrators of banality, begetters of hedonism and tailors of the destruction of civilization.

Irony.

 

 

Taking one paragraph out of its context and treat it as a point in itself. Very good, have you ever considered entering the field of Journalism? 

 

I'm hardly well versed in the various views of the members of the Frankfurt school but from what I understand many of their critiques centred around the fact that capitalism commodifies everything; music, art, fashion and so on are all subject to the process of mechanical reproduction, wherein they are stripped of any meaning or originality and reduced to mere products of consumption leaving society with a "vulgar" and "degenerate" culture bereft of any kind of meaning or originality. 

 

I say it's ironic because you blame them for the various things they were complaining about. 

 

 

Yeah, kinda like Marx. Interesting cultural criticism that seizes to be an intellectual curiosity until the moment someone tries to force it on society. Wonderful abstract ideas kinda do that when you take away human nature from them. Because their insistance to change culture from top-down (=social cooperative, lollip0p) and through force always lead to ****, no matter what good intensions they have or if they identified a legitimate problem or not, because it all falls apart when they cannot accept an objective morality to base it upon. The most radical ones are gladly talking about replacing people if they cannot adopt to the new cultural values, yikes!

 

I do understand how one can easily see my hatred for those values can be seen as ironic, true, but how these ideas go around uncontested by anything really, well except for Peter Hitchens perhaps, is repugnant.

[aluminiumtrioxid]

Because their insistance to change culture from top-down (=social cooperative, lollip0p) and through force always lead to ****, no matter what good intensions they have or if they identified a legitimate problem or not, because it all falls apart when they cannot accept an objective morality to base it upon. 

 

[Meshugger]

 

Because their insistance to change culture from top-down (=social cooperative, lollip0p) and through force always lead to ****, no matter what good intensions they have or if they identified a legitimate problem or not, because it all falls apart when they cannot accept an objective morality to base it upon. 

 

 

 

My feelings are hurt, post reported. TN, escort that white cishet-****lord out of this forum. He doesn't need to be your audience anymore.

 

Donate to my patreon.

Edited October 19, 2015 by Meshugger

[aluminiumtrioxid]

 

 

Because their insistance to change culture from top-down (=social cooperative, lollip0p) and through force always lead to ****, no matter what good intensions they have or if they identified a legitimate problem or not, because it all falls apart when they cannot accept an objective morality to base it upon. 

 

 

 

My feelings are hurt, post reported. TN, escort that white cishet-****lord out of this forum. He doesn't need to be your audience anymore.

 

Donate to my patreon.

 

 

No, but seriously.

 

According to your post, your main problem with people who - according to you, but let's accept the idea for the sake of argument - want to change society from top-down and with force is that these particular people can't accept an objective morality to base their views on. Which implies that others who'd want to do the same, ie. change society with force, but do this while accepting the idea of objective morality - however wrong-headed their particular version of such might be - are completely fine as far as you're concerned.

 

"One of the most insanely idiotic things I've ever heard" doesn't even begin to cover it.

[Meshugger]

 

 

 

Because their insistance to change culture from top-down (=social cooperative, lollip0p) and through force always lead to ****, no matter what good intensions they have or if they identified a legitimate problem or not, because it all falls apart when they cannot accept an objective morality to base it upon.

 

My feelings are hurt, post reported. TN, escort that white cishet-****lord out of this forum. He doesn't need to be your audience anymore.

 

Donate to my patreon.

 

No, but seriously.

 

According to your post, your main problem with people who - according to you, but let's accept the idea for the sake of argument - want to change society from top-down and with force is that these particular people can't accept an objective morality to base their views on. Which implies that others who'd want to do the same, ie. change society with force, but do this while accepting the idea of objective morality - however wrong-headed their particular version of such might be - are completely fine as far as you're concerned.

 

"One of the most insanely idiotic things I've ever heard" doesn't even begin to cover it.

 

Ah, you misunderstand me a bit there with your judgement. While i am sad to inform you that pacifism is an ideal and war is a fact, i really do not wish for that to happen and will do as much as possible as any other guy. What i am talking about is the fault of not having, or striving for, an objective morality because otherwise we cannot evolve as a species further, since every interaction is relativistic and in the end: pointless and meaningless. The Frankfurt school has some ideas, but i haven't seen any objective values from there that are not a perversion of values that already exists from before. I may myself falther and stray away on my quest for truth, beauty and objective morality at times, but that's where i am coming from and that is where i wish to go.

 

Source: C.S. Lewis.

 

 

Before someone screams "whu? off-topic!!!". It is quite on-topic. GG is simply right and fighting the manifestations of all that is wrong in society

Edited October 19, 2015 by TrueNeutral
Posting another response within one minute of the first is unneccesary double posting. Use the edit function.

[Meshugger]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gARtoXjGOnQ

[kirottu]

 

Australian indie dev rips GameLoading: Rise of the Indies apart.

Edited October 19, 2015 by kirottu

[Meshugger]

Dear lord, what a bunch a basket cases. I feel pity for the developer(s) of Super Meat Boy

[Fighter]

Ah yes. The diversity crew.

 

[Ineth]

Gawd, those hair styles.

 

Hipster neon hair is repellent enough on women; on men it's downright gruesome.

[Meshugger]

In the picture in the upper left corner, look at those eyes. I've seen similar stares from junkies or from mental patients. Their persona is simply.not.there.

Edited October 19, 2015 by Meshugger

[Volourn]

alum just summed up the majority of his posting history with that vid.

 

\Also, I also love the diversity = we all must have pink hair.

Edited October 19, 2015 by Volourn

[ShadySands]

 

Sorry, couldn't help myself

[GhoulishVisage]

So just FYI, for those interested in supporting alternate media, Nichegamer has just opened their forums.
Go and make an account if you like their stuff. The forums seem to chiefly be talking about Japanese stuff though.

Edit:

Edited October 19, 2015 by GhoulishVisage

[HoonDing]

 

Sorry, couldn't help myself

Made me do a double-take on Tokio Hotel

 

those guys are still around

[Meshugger]

Meet the new premier of Canada:

 

[Hurlshort]

It was probably not aired because no one really cares about gamergate or video game misogyny.     

[BruceVC]

It was probably not aired because no one really cares about gamergate or video game misogyny.     

Also you guys lost  the battle in the media for support for GG  ages ago, this was basically an irrefutable fact when CNN had that documentary about how "sexist and diabolical " GG was

 

So naturally most people in government, celebrities  or prominent person in the social limelight who knows anything about GG will be opposed to it ...as it is seen as a fundamentally sexist\misogynistic  movement that very few people outside of gaming will publicly support because no one wants to be seen as sexist or misogynistic 

 

I think this is unfair as some  of the views  of GG are  biased and one sided,.,,but when you don't control the media narrative or you can't resonate your message with the media you cant expect to get completely objective reporting ?

Edited October 21, 2015 by BruceVC

[PK htiw klaw eriF]

Meet the new premier of Canada:

 

Unsurprising, given that standing clearly against "video game misogyny" consists of lip service and doesn't require any action. A bit sad a self-declared feminist isn't pointing out the acceptance in the UN of several states with terrible records on women's rights or the lack of opportunities for working-class women in Canada, but I suppose those aren't very important.

[Volourn]

Why is he manspalinig to women why theya re wrong to be anti feminism?  Not surpising though. He probably doesn't read. Probably some idiot on his staff told him  a bunch of rapists onlinje said mean things about one woman' so that means all men on the net are evil.

 

How long before he tries to label GG a terrorrist group? LMAO

 

 

EVIL.

[Malcador]

Is easy marketing. Hope we don’t get a cyber bullying law. Just as it will inevitably be too wide and just be misused.

[Barothmuk]

Yeah, kinda like Marx. Interesting cultural criticism that seizes to be an intellectual curiosity until the moment someone tries to force it on society. Wonderful abstract ideas kinda do that when you take away human nature from them.

...what?

 

From the get-go for your ramblings to work we'd have to accept

 

1. The "cultural marxists" are currently in power.

2. They have chosen to combat the things they were complaining about, i.e. the commodification of everything leading to a "degenerate" culture, by commodifying everything and creating a "degenerate" culture.

3. The reason they have fallen into this trap is because it is "human nature" to, I don't know, commodify everything and create a degenerate culture? (which you are against, despite believing it to be human nature).

 

because it all falls apart when they cannot accept an objective morality to base it upon.

The Frankfurt School was made up of unashamed sappy humanists.

[Orogun01]

Is easy marketing. Hope we don’t get a cyber bullying law. Just as it will inevitably be too wide and just be misused.

Meh, it will likely only be used against political or high profile targets barring a few exceptions of cases that attract too much attention. The Internet is too fast and to wide for it too be properly regulated, they can't jail everyone who says **** on the internet.

[Meshugger]

It's over.

 

https://twitter.com/enemylimes/status/657118739972755457

https://8ch.net/gamergatehq/res/290449.html#290449

 

Twitter is experimenting with a software that contains "harmful" content from being viewed or showed in the newsfeed. It proves to be quite scalable and effective.