Gromnir Posted March 14, 2015 Posted March 14, 2015 (edited) got a call that we were anticipating with some dread. a couple weeks ago we, were contacted by a representative o' the tribe asking what we were planning to do with our money after we died. were not quite so bloodless, but that were the gist. we got no wife or kids, and our previous beneficiary died. for some reason, Gromnir were mildly offended. yeah, we know the oglala need money and they would be irresponsible if they didn't ask such questions, but even so, we were bothered by the solicitation call. we coulda' been diplomatic and informed the unfortunate representative that we would seriously consider leaving everything to the tribe, but it were a big decision and we would need time to reflect. am knowing it is hard to believe, but Gromnir is typical very polite; we rarely make a situation more difficult for the person with whom we is is dealing. however, is not complete outta character for us to... chastise? ... we told the representative that for 20 years we had given 10% o' our gross income Before taxes to the tribe and we would continue to do so. however, at the time o' our death, our entire estate would be donated to: http://www.stjude.org/stjude/v/index.jsp?vgnextoid=7b22b46b476a7410VgnVCM100000290115acRCRD&sc_cid=kwp1&sc_kw=st%20jude%27s%20children%27s%20hospital%20donations&sc_mt=e&sc_adid=49117040122&gclid=Cj0KEQjwuI-oBRCEi87g0K3O8OoBEiQAb25WActI4wY38S8ImVsGh8D70tZT0fx98DY2xv9p1NrBY3AaAtp88P8HAQ the conversation functionally ceased at that point. unfortunately, Pine Ridge is not having a particular large population, and we were aware that our deceleration o' intent would make its way back to family. and so it did. is not as if we were talking to a priest in confessional, so we knew our family would find out 'bout the st. judes donation, but at the time we didn't care. a couple days later we began to care, but by then it were too late. anywho, we got a phone call today from an aunt. she were a wee bit unhappy with us. this kinda thing is also one o' the main reasons we have never partaken o' alcohol. am suspecting our rl Gromnir Moments would multiply exponentially while intoxicated. HA! Good Fun! Edited March 14, 2015 by Gromnir 1 "If there be time to expose through discussion the falsehood and fallacies, to avert the evil by the processes of education, the remedy to be applied is more speech, not enforced silence."Justice Louis Brandeis, Concurring, Whitney v. California, 274 U.S. 357 (1927) "Im indifferent to almost any murder as long as it doesn't affect me or mine."--Gfted1 (September 30, 2019)
Guard Dog Posted March 14, 2015 Posted March 14, 2015 (edited) I know there is a need but, a call like that? It's a little too vulture like. I think I'd have been put off too. Besides, if someone told me St. Jude was their beneficiary rather than be rude I'd shake their hand and buy them a beer. Besides, you're young enough that this is not something you have to worry about for a long time. Edited March 14, 2015 by Guard Dog 1 "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell
Gromnir Posted March 14, 2015 Posted March 14, 2015 (edited) I know there is a need but, a call like that? It's a little too vulture like. I think I'd have been put off too. Besides, if someone told me St. Jude was their beneficiary rather than be rude I'd shake their hand and buy them a beer. Besides, you're young enough that this is not something you have to worry about for a long time. average life expectancy for males at Pine Ridge is 48. based on averages, Gromnir only has a few years left to us. 'course that ain't the way it actual works, but you can understand why the person calling from a list is gonna start pestering anybody over 45. it is hard for most folks to understand, but the standard of living in gaza is better than Pine Ridge, based on any set o' stats other than "deaths due to combat with the idf." infant mortality, poverty, unemployment, etc. Pine Ridge makes gaza seem like a veritable vacation destination. and, we will note that after we mentioned who we were donating money to, the tribal rep did give us a noticeably pregnant pause, but she weren't rude. our aunt, on the other hand, were livid. am suspecting we won't be invited for christmas this year, or next, or the next. HA! Good Fun! Edited March 14, 2015 by Gromnir "If there be time to expose through discussion the falsehood and fallacies, to avert the evil by the processes of education, the remedy to be applied is more speech, not enforced silence."Justice Louis Brandeis, Concurring, Whitney v. California, 274 U.S. 357 (1927) "Im indifferent to almost any murder as long as it doesn't affect me or mine."--Gfted1 (September 30, 2019)
Cantousent Posted March 14, 2015 Posted March 14, 2015 Yeah, the wife and I donate to St. Jude's. Apparently the lady who represents the hospital or something, the lady who starred in That Girl, was a Kappa Alpha Theta also and so it's important to my wife. ...But my experience is that donating to someone is like joining the mafia. They think they have you for life and start getting to be aggressive. I really am soft hearted in real life, but pushy charity people get to me sometimes. I've worked sales and, soft hearted or not, trying to muscle me is like trying to put baby in a corner. I recently had 'the talk' from someone representing the local Catholic cemetery. I found out that, even though I hadn't thought of it and don't really think I deserve it, I am eligible for a military burial. When I found that out, I also found out that I can get life insurance through them too. I dunno. I don't think it's fair for me to take advantage of the system when there are people out there I consider 'real veterans.' Anyhow, today I decided to hike over the hill (which ironically in light of the current discussion overlooks a cemetery) to Colton to meet with a my wife and a friend for lunch. Fionavar's Holliday Wishes to all members of our online community: Happy Holidays Join the revelry at the Obsidian Plays channel:Obsidian Plays Remembering tarna, Phosphor, Metadigital, and Visceris. Drink mead heartily in the halls of Valhalla, my friends!
Guard Dog Posted March 14, 2015 Posted March 14, 2015 (edited) You know it's a sad thing the shape the reservations of the former plains Indians are in. Especially when you compare it to places like the Seminole and especially the Miccosukee Reservations in South Florida. The Seminole Tribe operates a four enormous resort/casinos in Florida so that helps obviously. The Miccosukee reservation at Big Cypress (aside from the tourist areas) looks like any middle class suburb anywhere in Florida. Most of the houses would fit in any gated community in West Dade county. I know the history and real estate is not the same but it still makes you wonder, what are they doing the ones in the Dakotas, Wyoming, & Montana are not? Actually, I'll tell you one thing: Do Not speed in Big Cypress. You WILL get a ticket. I can tell you that from experience. And they are more expensive than Florida Edited March 14, 2015 by Guard Dog "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell
Gromnir Posted March 15, 2015 Posted March 15, 2015 (edited) the dakotas are not year-round tourist locales, and the nearest major metropolises is, well, not particular major. winter starts in mid october and lasts into march. sioux falls is the largest city in south dakota with a staggering population o' ~150k. 'course sioux falls is extreme east south dakota. rapid city is much closer to pine ridge, and its population is ~65k. the capital o' south dakota, if you recall from elementary school, is pierre, which is not pronounced as you would expect. less than 15k residents in pierre. is not like field of dreams for casinos at Pine Ridge: if you build it, they will come. well, they do come to the single casino, but the total revenue is pitiable. also, larger tribes make less money from casinos 'cause o' revenue splits. to make matters worse, there is a goodly number o' reservations in that part o' the country, soooo... plus, the tribe is not particular good at handling money. am recalling we/they lost a large amount o' money on some kinda ludicrous bitcoin venture. am not joking, bitcoin. HA! Good Fun! ps there ain't actual revenue sharing for oglala from casino money. the amount o' revenue generated is so small that it would literally cost more to mail monthly checks than those checks would provide. Edited March 15, 2015 by Gromnir "If there be time to expose through discussion the falsehood and fallacies, to avert the evil by the processes of education, the remedy to be applied is more speech, not enforced silence."Justice Louis Brandeis, Concurring, Whitney v. California, 274 U.S. 357 (1927) "Im indifferent to almost any murder as long as it doesn't affect me or mine."--Gfted1 (September 30, 2019)
Guard Dog Posted March 15, 2015 Posted March 15, 2015 Location, location, location I guess. "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell
PK htiw klaw eriF Posted March 15, 2015 Posted March 15, 2015 Today I dropped acid and then sat around drinking with friends and watching movies. 1 "Akiva Goldsman and Alex Kurtzman run the 21st century version of MK ULTRA." - majestic "you're a damned filthy lying robot and you deserve to die and burn in hell." - Bartimaeus "Without individual thinking you can't notice the plot holes." - InsaneCommander "Just feed off the suffering of gamers." - Malcador "You are calling my taste crap." -Hurlshort "thankfully it seems like the creators like Hungary less this time around." - Sarex "Don't forget the wakame, dumbass" -Keyrock "Are you trolling or just being inadvertently nonsensical?' -Pidesco "we have already been forced to admit you are at least human" - uuuhhii "I refuse to buy from non-woke businesses" - HoonDing "feral camels are now considered a pest" - Gorth "Melkathi is known to be an overly critical grumpy person" - Melkathi "Oddly enough Sanderson was a lot more direct despite being a Mormon" - Zoraptor "I found it greatly disturbing to scroll through my cartoon's halfing selection of genitalias." - Wormerine "I love cheese despite the pain and carnage." - ShadySands
Guard Dog Posted March 15, 2015 Posted March 15, 2015 Today I dropped acid and then sat around drinking with friends and watching movies. Booze is one thing. But if you're going to do stuff like that might as well drop out of college. Why put knowledge in your brain when you're just going to burn it out anyway. Just my $.02 "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell
ManifestedISO Posted March 15, 2015 Posted March 15, 2015 (edited) My nutbag next-door neighbor is proof meth will FUBAR a brain's chemistry ... but LSD is comparatively safe. Shouldn't mix it with alcohol though (qualitatively, I mean). Edited March 15, 2015 by ManifestedISO All Stop. On Screen.
PK htiw klaw eriF Posted March 15, 2015 Posted March 15, 2015 Today I dropped acid and then sat around drinking with friends and watching movies.Booze is one thing. But if you're going to do stuff like that might as well drop out of college. Why put knowledge in your brain when you're just going to burn it out anyway. Just my $.02 Actually LSD is relatively safe and non-addictive as drugs go. Less damaging than alcohol, at any rate. Besides it's spring break and my GPA is damn good. 2 "Akiva Goldsman and Alex Kurtzman run the 21st century version of MK ULTRA." - majestic "you're a damned filthy lying robot and you deserve to die and burn in hell." - Bartimaeus "Without individual thinking you can't notice the plot holes." - InsaneCommander "Just feed off the suffering of gamers." - Malcador "You are calling my taste crap." -Hurlshort "thankfully it seems like the creators like Hungary less this time around." - Sarex "Don't forget the wakame, dumbass" -Keyrock "Are you trolling or just being inadvertently nonsensical?' -Pidesco "we have already been forced to admit you are at least human" - uuuhhii "I refuse to buy from non-woke businesses" - HoonDing "feral camels are now considered a pest" - Gorth "Melkathi is known to be an overly critical grumpy person" - Melkathi "Oddly enough Sanderson was a lot more direct despite being a Mormon" - Zoraptor "I found it greatly disturbing to scroll through my cartoon's halfing selection of genitalias." - Wormerine "I love cheese despite the pain and carnage." - ShadySands
Hurlshort Posted March 15, 2015 Posted March 15, 2015 I'd argue more that posting it on social media (this forum does count) is a dumb choice.
PK htiw klaw eriF Posted March 15, 2015 Posted March 15, 2015 I'd argue more that posting it on social media (this forum does count) is a dumb choice. Seeing as I use pseudonyms on every account, I fail to see how I'd experience any IRL blowback. "Akiva Goldsman and Alex Kurtzman run the 21st century version of MK ULTRA." - majestic "you're a damned filthy lying robot and you deserve to die and burn in hell." - Bartimaeus "Without individual thinking you can't notice the plot holes." - InsaneCommander "Just feed off the suffering of gamers." - Malcador "You are calling my taste crap." -Hurlshort "thankfully it seems like the creators like Hungary less this time around." - Sarex "Don't forget the wakame, dumbass" -Keyrock "Are you trolling or just being inadvertently nonsensical?' -Pidesco "we have already been forced to admit you are at least human" - uuuhhii "I refuse to buy from non-woke businesses" - HoonDing "feral camels are now considered a pest" - Gorth "Melkathi is known to be an overly critical grumpy person" - Melkathi "Oddly enough Sanderson was a lot more direct despite being a Mormon" - Zoraptor "I found it greatly disturbing to scroll through my cartoon's halfing selection of genitalias." - Wormerine "I love cheese despite the pain and carnage." - ShadySands
Gorgon Posted March 15, 2015 Posted March 15, 2015 When I die I'm going to have all my possessions laid around me in a viking longboat which will in turn be set on fire and drifted out to sea. No, not really. Na na na na na na ... greg358 from Darksouls 3 PVP is a CHEATER. That is all.
Woldan Posted March 15, 2015 Posted March 15, 2015 Drugs are for the weak. I gazed at the dead, and for one dark moment I saw a banquet.
Cantousent Posted March 15, 2015 Posted March 15, 2015 I knew a guy in Korea who constantly attempted to get me to try LSD. I always said, "does it *look* like I need to do LSD to get in trouble?!" As for you Woldan... :Cant's blowing a raspberry icon: Fionavar's Holliday Wishes to all members of our online community: Happy Holidays Join the revelry at the Obsidian Plays channel:Obsidian Plays Remembering tarna, Phosphor, Metadigital, and Visceris. Drink mead heartily in the halls of Valhalla, my friends!
Calax Posted March 15, 2015 Posted March 15, 2015 Well, got a call from Hertz about their MiT position... and realized I'd spent the entire time since I got fired in my apartment so I went to the store... And spent 30 bucks on food v.v Victor of the 5 year fan fic competition! Kevin Butler will awesome your face off.
BruceVC Posted March 15, 2015 Posted March 15, 2015 I'd argue more that posting it on social media (this forum does count) is a dumb choice. Seeing as I use pseudonyms on every account, I fail to see how I'd experience any IRL blowback. Today I dropped acid and then sat around drinking with friends and watching movies.Booze is one thing. But if you're going to do stuff like that might as well drop out of college. Why put knowledge in your brain when you're just going to burn it out anyway. Just my $.02 Actually LSD is relatively safe and non-addictive as drugs go. Less damaging than alcohol, at any rate. Besides it's spring break and my GPA is damn good. No you will be fine, its good to do these things sometimes. Consider it a form experiencing life through a different lens Also LSD is not addictive at all, well at least not physically. I suppose its possible to become mentally addictive but I doubt any sane person would want to experience the world all the time on a trip? Coincidentally there have been several legal tests in the UK of the effects of LSD and its benefits to neuroscience http://cardiffstudentmedia.co.uk/gairrhydd/news/controversial-lsd-experiment-faces-acid-funding-test/ So the point around LSD being all bad for you is very subjective "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela
Elerond Posted March 15, 2015 Posted March 15, 2015 So the point around LSD being all bad for you is very subjective That is true for all drugs, they all have beneficial effects, which is usually reason why people use them first place. Even always dissed alcohol and tobacco have beneficial effects. It is quite vague thing that causes drug to become illegal, but more often than not it has lot to do how easy and cheap making that drug is. Which is reason why it think that all drugs should be legal and go through similar oversight as legal drugs. As it would ensure quality of those drugs, make them taxable (which would give money to take care of those who suffer their not so beneficial effects), make controlling them cheaper and easier, and it would lessen power of criminal organizations that finance their operation by selling drugs. But there is always more passion than though when it comes to conversations about drugs. 1
BruceVC Posted March 15, 2015 Posted March 15, 2015 So the point around LSD being all bad for you is very subjective That is true for all drugs, they all have beneficial effects, which is usually reason why people use them first place. Even always dissed alcohol and tobacco have beneficial effects. It is quite vague thing that causes drug to become illegal, but more often than not it has lot to do how easy and cheap making that drug is. Which is reason why it think that all drugs should be legal and go through similar oversight as legal drugs. As it would ensure quality of those drugs, make them taxable (which would give money to take care of those who suffer their not so beneficial effects), make controlling them cheaper and easier, and it would lessen power of criminal organizations that finance their operation by selling drugs. But there is always more passion than though when it comes to conversations about drugs. Correct, the real solution to the war of drugs is to legalize everything. As you mentioned you can then control and tax the quality and have proper healthcare to help addicts You would effectively almost completely destroy the power of the various drug cartels. Portugal has adopted a very liberal drug policy and they have had better results than other countries that criminalize drugs ( this link is a little old but still relevant ) http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/12/26/portugals-drug-policy-pays-eyes-lessons/ "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela
Rostere Posted March 15, 2015 Posted March 15, 2015 Unlike many other drugs which gives you "ups" when you take them and withdrawal symptoms when you don't, LSD just shapes your perception of reality. Drugs such as cocaine, alcohol, nicotine et.c. are chemically addictive and thus fall in an entirely different category. That said, it's of course possible to hurt yourself and others in many ways when on LSD. But that's not a direct effect of the drug. 1 "Well, overkill is my middle name. And my last name. And all of my other names as well!"
Gfted1 Posted March 15, 2015 Posted March 15, 2015 @Gromnir: Is there any minerals / oil field rights that the plains Indians could tap into? Is there anything out there? "I'm your biggest fan, Ill follow you until you love me, Papa"
Gromnir Posted March 15, 2015 Posted March 15, 2015 oil rights are leased to... somebody. am forgetting who. test wells get dug every couple years by the folks who currently lease the rights, but nothing so far. the shale is low quality as well. ash and clay... and possibly uranium. there is speculation 'bout uranium 'cause of amounts found in ground water, but that is far as it goes. during the 60s and 70s, hucksters were able to sell hundreds o' geiger counters to the residents o' Pine Ridge. folks thought they could get rich from uranium by wandering through the badlands with a freaking geiger counter. there is a fair amount o' high quality, pottery-grade clay at Pine Ridge, but there isn't currently enough demand to make large-scale operations economic viable. its pretty though. there is also an accessible layer o' volcanic ash, which is actual kinda scary when you think 'bout it. the presence o' the ash, which sells for less than $1 per pound and doesn't have high demand anyway, is likely the result o' the last o' the last yellowstone super volcano eruption. pine ridge has alcoholism, diabetes, suicide and poverty in abundance; is pretty much all pine ridge has. "If there be time to expose through discussion the falsehood and fallacies, to avert the evil by the processes of education, the remedy to be applied is more speech, not enforced silence."Justice Louis Brandeis, Concurring, Whitney v. California, 274 U.S. 357 (1927) "Im indifferent to almost any murder as long as it doesn't affect me or mine."--Gfted1 (September 30, 2019)
Malcador Posted March 16, 2015 Posted March 16, 2015 I guess people see the problems already existing with booze and think of those same types high up on coke or speed when they hear full legalization. Not entirely baseless, I guess. Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra
213374U Posted March 16, 2015 Posted March 16, 2015 Even always dissed alcohol and tobacco have beneficial effects. ... I don't know about "beneficial effects" but in an open society the state has no business telling you what you can and cannot do to yourself. Prohibition also precludes any mature discussion on the subject and essentially dumbs debate down to "drugs are bad m'kay?". And for the record, I don't do drugs. I don't even drink. OT: The best thing about 15-hour shifts? That they aren't 16-hour shifts. FML - When he is best, he is a little worse than a man, and when he is worst, he is little better than a beast.
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