obyknven Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Pipelines in Ukraine Meanwhile rebellion in Crimea begin and Maidowns want cut pipelines and leave Crimea without water and gas. If they do this Russia can make own turn and leave Ukraine without gas also. Anyway Ukraine is bankrupt, they even don't have money to pay salary in current month. We just see agony of Ukraine as independent state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obyknven Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Ok, Russia just support legitimate Ukrainian government. Order of Ukrainian president http://anna-news.info/node/13745#.Uw7XBcG0oiE.livejournal http://translate.google.ru/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=ru&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fanna-news.info%2Fnode%2F13745%23.Uw7XBcG0oiE.livejournal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcador Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Yeah.. well Grasshopper you might learn something from those ants. Actually one of their idioms just came to mind about the "robbed Cossack" i.e. the abuser who plays the abusee or the Offender who acts as the victim. It perfectly fit all the cries from before about Western propaganda by Russian trolls such oby with this post being the cheery on top You do realize that part was a joke, right ? Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obyknven Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Ukrainian life. Look on this guy. He is new "government" of Ukraine. Yes, Western "democtratic" states and organisation's support such people. Ukrainians must be happy - "democracy" come to their home at least. http://youtu.be/q8JC-ZjqFb4 Another place in Ukraine. Block post of Euromaidaners, they try find enemies (political opponents) and because this they just attack cars and kill people. http://youtu.be/8TkAkcMceNg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fighter Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 (edited) So far this is inching towards civil war step by step... The new government is going to have to do something about these guys from "Right Sector", otherwise even the west is going to start raising eyebrows. They indeed are the authority at the moment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8JC-ZjqFb4#t=0 Edited February 27, 2014 by Fighter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obyknven Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 NATO can only barking. http://www.thestar.com.my/News/World/2014/02/27/US-NATO-do-not-have-contingency-plans-for-Ukraine--commander/ All NATO warnings to Russia today is just a blef. Meanwhile Ukrainian president to hold press-conference in Rostov-on-Don Friday http://www.thestar.com.my/News/World/2014/02/27/US-NATO-do-not-have-contingency-plans-for-Ukraine--commander/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
213374U Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 So far this is inching towards civil war step by step... The new government is going to have to do something about these guys from "Right Sector", otherwise even the west is going to start raising eyebrows. They indeed are the authority at the moment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8JC-ZjqFb4#t=0 Not being fluent in Russian or Ukrainian, All I see is that Muzychko character bitchslapping a suit. Who is that and what is Muzychko ranting about? - When he is best, he is a little worse than a man, and when he is worst, he is little better than a beast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fighter Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Reportedly Kiev attempted to give orders to the officially disbanded Berkut unit in Crimea. Their response was, "We are disbanded". Also reportedly just a few days ago they ordered SBU Alfa to disarm the Crimean Berkut, SBU refused. It's a mess. It's not clear who controls what or if they control anything at all. Kiev as of yet made no real effort to reconcile with ethnic Russians in the east, no offers of dialog, no reassurances of their rights, no addressing their worries. In fact one of the first things they did is abolish the law regulating the status of the Russian language -- as if this was a priority -- fully knowing how it would be taken. The irony here: Kiev government ignored the protest in the capital and it escalated. Now they do the same. They just want to have their way with the east. What were they fighting for again? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mor Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 @Malcador, sorry, with the turn some of the post took over the last couple of pages, it is hard not to look for release the hounds button. @213374U, Being fluent in Russian will only help you understanding common curse words, something about district attorney and my summary: быдлo. @oby, yeah, keep pumping those drums of war.. pretending as if you care one way or another about all those issues other than in how it effects Russia interests. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fighter Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 (edited) Not being fluent in Russian or Ukrainian, All I see is that Muzychko character bitchslapping a suit. Who is that and what is Muzychko ranting about? It's the prosecutor's office. He wants their boss and he is not there. This doesn't please Muzychko. Edited February 27, 2014 by Fighter 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meshugger Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Can't they just grow to love each other? "Some men see things as they are and say why?""I dream things that never were and say why not?"- George Bernard Shaw"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."- Friedrich Nietzsche "The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." - Some guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
213374U Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 You'd have to have a pretty big heart to love that pitbull of a man, I must say. - When he is best, he is a little worse than a man, and when he is worst, he is little better than a beast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fighter Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 At 2:40 you can see the gunmen who are holding Crimean governmental buildings. One of them has a fancy painted AK with some kind of holo sight. These guys do not look like any kind of local irregulars. IMO. Either Russian special forces or Yanuk's personal guard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrashMan Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 FYI, that some news outlets are ctiticizing the president means little. The president is not the real power-structure in the US anyway. Do tell, who is the real power-structure in the US? Special interest groups. Lobbies. The military-industrial complex. Banks. Peopel with lots of $$$ run the US in all but name. Presidents change, but they are all their b***es. * YOU ARE A WRONGULARITY FROM WHICH NO RIGHT CAN ESCAPE! *Chuck Norris was wrong once - He thought HE made a mistake! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurlshort Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 FYI, that some news outlets are ctiticizing the president means little. The president is not the real power-structure in the US anyway. Do tell, who is the real power-structure in the US? Special interest groups. Lobbies. The military-industrial complex. Banks. Peopel with lots of $$$ run the US in all but name. Presidents change, but they are all their b***es. What a revelation! People with lots of money run lots of things! You just listed a ton of different groups that all have different priorities, which basically supports an idea of a balanced power structure in the US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcador Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Defense companies, lobbyists and banks have different priorities ? Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoonDing Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Putin sent his champion, the Missing Link, to Crimea: The ending of the words is ALMSIVI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obyknven Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 (edited) Vice-President of the European Parliament is Nazi. Nice. It's explain why they support Neo-nazi thugs in Ukraine. http://www.fr-online.de/flughafen-frankfurt/eu-politiker-jacek-protasiewicz-nazi-skandal-am-flughafen,2641734,26405102.html http://wyborcza.pl/1,75478,15534077,Protasiewicz_o_awanturze_na_lotnisku__Celnicy_i_policjanci.html F**k the EU! Edited February 27, 2014 by obyknven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
213374U Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 (edited) You just listed a ton of different groups that all have different priorities, which basically supports an idea of a balanced power structure in the US. That's... an interesting view. The absence of a central figure of authority having absolute power, instead being distributed among a myriad elected and unelected officials and private sector bigwigs may indeed be "balanced" in a strict sense. But it's decidedly undemocratic, and the results are manifestly terrible—widespread waste, reduction of civil liberties, inequality increases and perpetual war. And all in the name of greed. Edited February 27, 2014 by 213374U - When he is best, he is a little worse than a man, and when he is worst, he is little better than a beast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
213374U Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 F**k the EU! Well, yes. - When he is best, he is a little worse than a man, and when he is worst, he is little better than a beast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoraptor Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 These guys do not look like any kind of local irregulars. IMO. Either Russian special forces or Yanuk's personal guard. I'd doubt it would be the Russians, personally. That's getting to point of no return, they'll want it identifiably Crimean at this point. There's already enough Beeb class correspondents overemphasising that x and y officials in Crimea are Russian citizens. Armed men or Russian troops at Perekop would be more significant anyway, since that's the natural choke point and has a lot of military defences, albeit mostly old ones. Putin sent his champion, the Missing Link, to Crimea: Useless, he's not even tough enough to beat a coked up russian gangsta with an 80s fetish. Putin should go himself. If he wants a job done well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrath of Dagon Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 TrashMan, on 27 Feb 2014 - 12:03 PM, said: BruceVC, on 26 Feb 2014 - 09:47 AM, said: TrashMan, on 26 Feb 2014 - 07:56 AM, said: FYI, that some news outlets are ctiticizing the president means little. The president is not the real power-structure in the US anyway. Do tell, who is the real power-structure in the US? Special interest groups. Lobbies. The military-industrial complex. Banks. Peopel with lots of $$$ run the US in all but name. Presidents change, but they are all their b***es. Unions, lawyers, doctors, pharma, minorities, homos, corporations. Shockingly US has lots of special interest groups vying for power. In this I'm sure we're very different from any other country. "Moral indignation is a standard strategy for endowing the idiot with dignity." Marshall McLuhan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obyknven Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 Protestors in Kharkiv want join to Russia too. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kharkiv http://youtu.be/NhcYsl102Bg We must give to people what they want. Authorities must have respect to people's will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obyknven Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 Crimean self-defence units control Crimea now. De-facto Crimea become independent from Ukraine. I think many other regions of Ukraine do want repeat similar things. Video: http://lifenews.ru/news/128083 It's really good news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kroney Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 Just a bit of voter priority reorientation. Nothing to worry about. Dirty deeds done cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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