October 6, 201114 yr ...Steve Jobs dies CUPERTINO, Calif. (AP) -- Apple Inc. said the company's co-founder Steve Jobs died Wednesday. He was 56. "We are deeply saddened to announce that Steve Jobs passed away today," the company said in a brief statement. "Steve's brilliance, passion and energy were the source of countless innovations that enrich and improve all of our lives. The world is immeasurably better because of Steve." Edited October 6, 201114 yr by Arkan "Of course the people don't want war. But after all, it's the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it's always a simple matter to drag the people along whether it's a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger." - Herman Goering at the Nuremberg trials "I have also been slowly coming to the realisation that knowledge and happiness are not necessarily coincident, and quite often mutually exclusive" - meta
October 6, 201114 yr Hm, 'immeasurably better', that's some claim. Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra
October 6, 201114 yr I like Apple products. I like Pixar films. Thanks Steve! "Things are funny...are comedic, because they mix the real with the absurd." - Buzz Aldrin."P-O-T-A-T-O-E" - Dan Quayle
October 6, 201114 yr I like a lot of Apple products, but the culture surrounding Apple.... to hell with it. But, Jobs also pushed Pixar through some tough times, and for that I am forever grateful.
October 6, 201114 yr Jobs had some interesting ideas, and yes, things like pixar are something to be grateful for. It's always sad for someone to die , especially from such a nasty case of cancer. At the same time, the cult of the apple iphone worship can tend to get a wee bit annoying. "Cuius testiculos habeas, habeas cardia et cerebellum."
October 6, 201114 yr Cancer is a horrible way to go. R.I.P. However, for all the people comparing his death to the one of John Lennon and JFK: Really?!, i mean really?!! "Some men see things as they are and say why?""I dream things that never were and say why not?"- George Bernard Shaw"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."- Friedrich Nietzsche "The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." - Some guy
October 6, 201114 yr If someone like Jobs -who likely had the best doctors money can buy and an admirable drive- couldn't beat cancer, then it's pretty much a lottery. ****. However, for all the people comparing his death to the one of John Lennon and JFK: Really?!, i mean really?!! John who? And did something happen to New York's airport? - When he is best, he is a little worse than a man, and when he is worst, he is little better than a beast.
October 6, 201114 yr Requiescat in pace. (Always loved mainstream PC users attitudes towards Apple. I've had apple gear since 1989, and I've seen the attitudes go from "what's that?" "lol, it crashes all the time, buy a real computer" to the now prevalent "but the cuuulture!" ) You're a cheery wee bugger, Nep. Have I ever said that? Reapercussions
October 6, 201114 yr Heh, I'm betting that they'll do some outlandish public grieving over this in Japan first. Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra
October 6, 201114 yr Steve who? Didn't he play a doctor in E.R? Really though, I admire what he did, even if I don't ever want to be part of it.
October 6, 201114 yr Westboro trolls a-go Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra
October 6, 201114 yr Westboro trolls a-go Wow, those people are real pieces of work. You see the sign the little kid was holding? Shameful. Yes, this tweet was sent via Twitter for iPhone. The irony here is almost unbelievable.
October 6, 201114 yr Way to screw up a kid, possibly for god. Na na na na na na ... greg358 from Darksouls 3 PVP is a CHEATER. That is all.
October 9, 201114 yr If someone like Jobs -who likely had the best doctors money can buy and an admirable drive- couldn't beat cancer, then it's pretty much a lottery. ****. I was contemplating this the other day. Still, even in 10 years time modern medicine will be far more progressed than it is today (given historical trends and the current pace of scientific development, thanks in part to supercomputing), so I am somewhat confident that if I ever do get cancer, it should be in a time where the likelihood of survival (and without ****ing my life over too much) is reasonably good. (in reference to the thread and the cultural response to his death in general) That said... you know what? **** Jobs. I'm sorry, he's not a bad person as far as dictators and rapists go, but god, the man was no good Samaritan. He was a manipulative capitalist* who, in all honestly, didn't really do anything significant to improve the world. I hate being negative about people but in this case there are better, more deserving people of our praise. So he marketed a product you enjoyed mildly more than the competing product and then died? Oh ****, I guess that DOES mean he changed the world. *I have no overall qualms with capitalism - I admire it's efficiency, but if you want to go there, I do think markets do need sensible and strong regulation. I'm neither a Libertarian nor a socialist.
October 9, 201114 yr Like I said in the other thread, I'm not a fan of Apple per se but Jobs did things/got things done that were very influential to the tech/entertainment biz. Whether you like the trends he created is another story. I guess I kind of think of him as a genius marketer/consumer trend visionary, so I admired him for that even as I frowned at the i-everything mania (including itunes...). And I wonder if Apple can maintain their high level of trendy fame for long without him. But yes, to call him a tech-Einstein (as I saw one article do ) or compare him to Sagan,or JFK or whatever is...a bit much. Still gaming with my 9900k/2080ti/32 ram. One day I suppose a game may inspire me to finally upgrade. Maybe.
October 18, 201114 yr Just want o say, that apparently the new iphone is eating families... because a husband can buy this, and basically start spying on his wife's location with this "my friends" thing. Victor of the 5 year fan fic competition! Kevin Butler will awesome your face off.
October 18, 201114 yr I hate phones. Never understood this iThing fascination It was a sad day at work when I had to get my old, battered, kept together by sticky tape Nokia replaced by a newer model. Why do people value those things so highly (genuinely curious)? “He who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would surely suffice.” - Albert Einstein
October 18, 201114 yr Just want o say, that apparently the new iphone is eating families... because a husband can buy this, and basically start spying on his wife's location with this "my friends" thing. That story has no serious proof to it...some guy posts on a forum then never posts again. Journalists today... Regardless, I can see it might be possible with that kind of app. Which between that and the normal GPS, is another reason I don't yet have one. ...same thing with GPS chips in cars. My old non-GPS car has 35K on it and I'm going to drive it until only duct tape is holding it together. Still gaming with my 9900k/2080ti/32 ram. One day I suppose a game may inspire me to finally upgrade. Maybe.
October 18, 201114 yr I hate phones. Never understood this iThing fascination It was a sad day at work when I had to get my old, battered, kept together by sticky tape Nokia replaced by a newer model. Why do people value those things so highly (genuinely curious)? "my phone is more expensive than yours" "the guy in the next cubicle has one so I must have one" "my gaming pc costs more than your console so I am a superior human being" You're a cheery wee bugger, Nep. Have I ever said that? Reapercussions
October 18, 201114 yr "my phone is more expensive than yours" "the guy in the next cubicle has one so I must have one" "my gaming pc costs more than your console so I am a superior human being" It's not that having a gaming pc that costs more then a console that makes them a superior human being, it's the fact that they use a gaming pc rather then a console that does that. "Cuius testiculos habeas, habeas cardia et cerebellum."
October 18, 201114 yr "my phone is more expensive than yours" "the guy in the next cubicle has one so I must have one" "my gaming pc costs more than your console so I am a superior human being" It's not that having a gaming pc that costs more then a console that makes them a superior human being, it's the fact that they use a gaming pc rather then a console that does that. You're looking just at the surface, not the rationale behind it. You're a cheery wee bugger, Nep. Have I ever said that? Reapercussions
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