Malcador Posted February 7, 2011 Posted February 7, 2011 No need to make this bigger than it actually is. Zing. But really, not sure why EG's wasting their cycles on that. Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra
Hurlshort Posted February 7, 2011 Posted February 7, 2011 Sex sells? Does it really? Is that the deciding factor here? Are there a bunch of guys on the fence who are going to now run to pre-order the game because it has fellatio? Maybe there are, I guess I am disconnected.
Gfted1 Posted February 7, 2011 Posted February 7, 2011 Sex sells? Does it really? Is that the deciding factor here? Are there a bunch of guys on the fence who are going to now run to pre-order the game because it has fellatio? Maybe there are, I guess I am disconnected. You should go take a peek over at Bioware's board. Dont forget to wear a poncho. "I'm your biggest fan, Ill follow you until you love me, Papa"
Morgoth Posted February 7, 2011 Posted February 7, 2011 EA/Bioware can be glad that Jack Thompson ceased his crusade on condemning un-christian video game content. Rain makes everything better.
Wrath of Dagon Posted February 7, 2011 Posted February 7, 2011 (edited) From the ESRB description it's only suggested by the scene, nothing is actually depicted. Edited February 7, 2011 by Wrath of Dagon "Moral indignation is a standard strategy for endowing the idiot with dignity." Marshall McLuhan
Enoch Posted February 7, 2011 Posted February 7, 2011 A friend and I were having a discussion about sexual content in CRPGs just the other day. I expressed disappointment in how games very rarely fail to live down to the worst of their stereotype as entertainment primarily for 13-year-olds. His response was that if you're going to make a game primarily to enable people to indulge a particular variety of puerile wish fulfillment (i.e., taking on the role of the noble-hero-or-badass-antihero around whom all the major events in the world revolve), throwing in idealized sexual content as an additonal flavor of said puerile wish fulfillment doesn't change much. His is probably a healthier attitude, in that I'm a snob who likes to pretend that my enjoyment of these games is much more sophisticated than all that, and in that there is no real reason why I should consider the sexual element of the content as any more embarrassing than all the violence, escapism, solipsism, etc., is. And there is some truth to that. But, still, I find it a lot easier to extract 'sophisticated' pleasures from well-executed RPG combat, rules systems, and character interaction than I do from what sexual content I have seen in games. Which, I think, means either that I'm hung up on sex (possible), or that the way games have implemented sexual content is consistently less well thought-out, less polished, and less engaging than the implementation of other game elements (almost certainly the case).
Wrath of Dagon Posted February 7, 2011 Posted February 7, 2011 His response was that if you're going to make a game primarily to enable people to indulge a particular variety of puerile wish fulfillment (i.e., taking on the role of the noble-hero-or-badass-antihero around whom all the major events in the world revolve), throwing in idealized sexual content as an additonal flavor of said puerile wish fulfillment doesn't change much. If that's the primary purpose of the game, it's a pretty sorry game to start with, and making it even more puerile doesn't help. "Moral indignation is a standard strategy for endowing the idiot with dignity." Marshall McLuhan
Walsingham Posted February 7, 2011 Posted February 7, 2011 (edited) Games still need more sex, not less, I'll complain when every game is like a Google image search for 'Japanese Twins' Jay voice: "Gonna get some p**** for killing a dragon... I tell you, if I'd known that **** earlier I'd have been killing dragons since I was, like seven and ****" EDIT: Perhaps the real point here is that with that going on then she can't sing at us. Edited February 7, 2011 by Walsingham "It wasn't lies. It was just... bull****"." -Elwood Blues tarna's dead; processing... complete. Disappointed by Universe. RIP Hades/Sand/etc. Here's hoping your next alt has a harp.
entrerix Posted February 7, 2011 Posted February 7, 2011 video games right now have generally the sophistication of a michael bay film written by michael bay fans. not all games are like this obviously, but we have a long way to go before we have a godfather or casablanca. ouch... I just realized that there was a game based on the godfather a few years ago... so sad. Killing is kind of like playin' a basketball game. I am there. and the other player is there. and it's just the two of us. and I put the other player's body in my van. and I am the winner. - Nice Pete.
kirottu Posted February 7, 2011 Posted February 7, 2011 Is a blowjob scene somehow worse than a intercourse scene? This post is not to be enjoyed, discussed, or referenced on company time.
Walsingham Posted February 7, 2011 Posted February 7, 2011 Is a blowjob scene somehow worse than a intercourse scene? Depends on teh culture. I was todl by a couple of people that it's a big deal in France. "It wasn't lies. It was just... bull****"." -Elwood Blues tarna's dead; processing... complete. Disappointed by Universe. RIP Hades/Sand/etc. Here's hoping your next alt has a harp.
HoonDing Posted February 7, 2011 Posted February 7, 2011 (edited) Sex sells? Already in 1981, the best selling game on Apple II was "Softporn Adventure", a text adventure that was later bought and re-released by Sierra and turned into Leisure Suit Larry by Al Lowe. IIRC it sold 250,000 copies on Apple. Edited February 7, 2011 by virumor The ending of the words is ALMSIVI.
Malcador Posted February 7, 2011 Posted February 7, 2011 Coming soon, Call of Booty. Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra
Pidesco Posted February 7, 2011 Posted February 7, 2011 I'm still waiting for the porn industry to start making porn versions of every game. In game form not movie form. "My hovercraft is full of eels!" - Hungarian tourist I am Dan Quayle of the Romans. I want to tattoo a map of the Netherlands on my nether lands. Heja Sverige!! Everyone should cuffawkle more. The wrench is your friend.
Labadal Posted February 7, 2011 Posted February 7, 2011 You can always skip romances. I usually do that because they are never well written in games.
Tale Posted February 7, 2011 Posted February 7, 2011 (edited) video games right now have generally the sophistication of a michael bay film written by michael bay fans. not all games are like this obviously, but we have a long way to go before we have a godfather or casablanca. ouch... I just realized that there was a game based on the godfather a few years ago... so sad. I fully believe we've had a few Citizen Kanes. But due to the progressive nature of the technology, everyone loves forgetting games older than 5 years. Edited February 7, 2011 by Tale "Show me a man who "plays fair" and I'll show you a very talented cheater."
Oblarg Posted February 7, 2011 Posted February 7, 2011 I really don't see any possible legitimate use of a blowjob to further the narrative. If true, the only purpose this would serve is to sell with cheap sex appeal and generate publicity through controversy. "The universe is a yawning chasm, filled with emptiness and the puerile meanderings of sentience..." - Ulyaoth "It is all that is left unsaid upon which tragedies are built." - Kreia "I thought this forum was for Speculation & Discussion, not Speculation & Calling People Trolls." - lord of flies
Tale Posted February 7, 2011 Posted February 7, 2011 We don't even know the context. For all we know there's a brothel and we walk past a room where it's implied and doesn't involve the player. "Show me a man who "plays fair" and I'll show you a very talented cheater."
Oblarg Posted February 7, 2011 Posted February 7, 2011 We don't even know the context. For all we know there's a brothel and we walk past a room where it's implied and doesn't involve the player. Oh, come on, what purpose would that serve? It doesn't build atmosphere, that's for sure. The *only* reason BioWare would include a blowjob scene is for the sex appeal and the controversy. There is no possible legitimate narrative-based reason to include one, unless their narrative is really, really ****ing bad (knowing BioWare, though, this could be the case). "The universe is a yawning chasm, filled with emptiness and the puerile meanderings of sentience..." - Ulyaoth "It is all that is left unsaid upon which tragedies are built." - Kreia "I thought this forum was for Speculation & Discussion, not Speculation & Calling People Trolls." - lord of flies
Tale Posted February 7, 2011 Posted February 7, 2011 (edited) Why can't it build atmosphere? There was implied oral sex in Dragon Age Origins, too. When rescuing Anora. A room you open has a guard captain and a maid on her knees. They act quite guilty. How much controversy did that one generate? Edited February 7, 2011 by Tale "Show me a man who "plays fair" and I'll show you a very talented cheater."
Oblarg Posted February 7, 2011 Posted February 7, 2011 Why can't it build atmosphere? There was implied oral sex in Dragon Age Origins, too. When rescuing Anora. A room you open has a guard captain and a maid on her knees. They act quite guilty. How much controversy did that one generate? It didn't depict the act about to happen. There's just as much atmosphere from there being a brothel than from directly showing a woman kneeling in front of a man. Sorry, there's no excuse for this. "The universe is a yawning chasm, filled with emptiness and the puerile meanderings of sentience..." - Ulyaoth "It is all that is left unsaid upon which tragedies are built." - Kreia "I thought this forum was for Speculation & Discussion, not Speculation & Calling People Trolls." - lord of flies
WILL THE ALMIGHTY Posted February 7, 2011 Posted February 7, 2011 You can always skip romances. I usually do that because they are never well written in games. The problem is BIO puts a lot of emphasis on romance in their games. It's very hard to avoid. "Alright, I've been thinking. When life gives you lemons, don't make lemonade - make life take the lemons back! Get mad! I don't want your damn lemons, what am I supposed to do with these? Demand to see life's manager. Make life rue the day it thought it could give Cave Johnson lemons. Do you know who I am? I'm the man who's gonna burn your house down! With the lemons. I'm going to to get my engineers to invent a combustible lemon that burns your house down!"
Tale Posted February 7, 2011 Posted February 7, 2011 (edited) It didn't depict the act about to happen. There's just as much atmosphere from there being a brothel than from directly showing a woman kneeling in front of a man. Sorry, there's no excuse for this. It did too depict the act about to happen. For all we know, it's a repeat of the same scenario. Edited February 7, 2011 by Tale "Show me a man who "plays fair" and I'll show you a very talented cheater."
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