Pidesco Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 I haven't played it, but it's just for lack of monies. "My hovercraft is full of eels!" - Hungarian touristI am Dan Quayle of the Romans.I want to tattoo a map of the Netherlands on my nether lands.Heja Sverige!!Everyone should cuffawkle more.The wrench is your friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hell Kitty Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 "Good" and "interesting" are entirely a matter of opinion, and you're confusing "good design" with "stuff I like". To use a bit of CrashGirl wisdom, just because you like it, doesn't mean it's not crap. As for the objective truth, Oblivion doesn't have cliff racers, and is therefore the superior game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorth Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 Wait what? I am the only one left here that hasn't bought/played Fallout 3 yet, let alone even seen anyone play it? Sad, sad, sad. What happened to you people who hated it the most? Nope, not the only one I will not let trivial things like facts and other peoples experiences interfere with my irrational hatred and condemnation for that sorry excuse for a Fallout wannabe “He who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would surely suffice.” - Albert Einstein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slowtrain Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 As for the objective truth, Oblivion doesn't have cliff racers, and is therefore the superior game. Ha ha! You know that's almost true. Notice how I can belittle your beliefs without calling you names. It's a useful skill to have particularly where you aren't allowed to call people names. It's a mistake to get too drawn in/worked up. I mean it's not life or death, it's just two guys posting their thoughts on a message board. If it were personal or face to face all the usual restraints would be in place, and we would never have reached this place in the first place. Try to remember that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Raven Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Bethys Morrowind is ugly. The only failure I can think of. Hades was the life of the party. RIP You'll be missed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pidesco Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 The dungeons in Morrowind are horrible, and the NPCs are completely and utterly lifeless. Also, the animations are atrocious. "My hovercraft is full of eels!" - Hungarian touristI am Dan Quayle of the Romans.I want to tattoo a map of the Netherlands on my nether lands.Heja Sverige!!Everyone should cuffawkle more.The wrench is your friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slowtrain Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 The MW avatars, especially the heads and hair, have to be some of the ugliest things ever put into a computer game. I remember people were putting out head and body mods that were actually less resource intensive for the computer and looked about a zillion times better. Face gen may have been pretty bad in Oblivion, but it WAS a giant step forward from MW. Notice how I can belittle your beliefs without calling you names. It's a useful skill to have particularly where you aren't allowed to call people names. It's a mistake to get too drawn in/worked up. I mean it's not life or death, it's just two guys posting their thoughts on a message board. If it were personal or face to face all the usual restraints would be in place, and we would never have reached this place in the first place. Try to remember that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maria Caliban Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 As for the objective truth, Oblivion doesn't have cliff racers, and is therefore the superior game. After the first three hours, I opened the toolset and set every rat, cliff racer, mud crab, and snapper fish to a state of relative calm. My memories of the other 70+ hours are colored by that. Which raises the question, when a developer places an easy to fiddle with toolset in the game so you can fix the main game, and the community produces hundreds of mods, should we still only call the game 'good' or 'bad' based on the vanilla experience? I mean, it took me about half a dozen mods, but I was able to turn Oblivion into a very fun game (in a free roaming RPG sort of way.) If I now say it's good, am I wrong? "When is this out. I can't wait to play it so I can talk at length about how bad it is." - Gorgon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Raven Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Morrowinds avatars and faces are about as ugly as NWNs. Hades was the life of the party. RIP You'll be missed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigranes Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 I'm playing Morrowind again now, after I put +60 hours into my first play years before. I put 60 into Oblivion and finished it; 35 into FO3 and finished it. Got to say Morrowind is my favourite, though a 'better game'? I wouldn't say that. All 3 games are similar Bethesda-works in that they start out so full of promise, but get a bit like stretched butter as you approach endgame; in other words there is this promise of a big world with so much to do (which is fulfilled to an extent), but in Morrowind you soon realise so many characters are made of wood, and even though the setting and places are excellently unique you can't really do much with them; in Oblivion you soon realise how every town is like the other, has idiotic Radiant AI peasants running around "chatting", and the dialogue is still mediocre; in FO3 you discover just how small human settlements can get, and of course the repetitiveness of Super Mutants. Odd thing is though, apparently I can get back into Morrowind (after a few years), whereas I've failed to do that with the other two. I think Morrowind is much, much stronger, incomparably stronger, than the other two in atmosphere. Oblivion doesn't have atmosphere. For all the bloom and the grass you don't feel there, and the world never feels interesting. Morrowind had some wacky stuff; on many occasions it still felt like stuff wasn't there just so you could do your quest, but the world was just what it was; music fitted well; art design fitted well; even the interface/font. Some will argue that FO3 has plenty of atmosphere, but (without getting into originals debate at all) to me it felt rather patchwork. You've got several things like, uh, all of the main quest which makes no sense and breaks immersion, and lots of things felt very theme park-y (perhaps exacerbated by how small everything was). And when you take the atmosphere out of the equation in these Bethesda games, not that much remains. Quests? They got better with FO3 and there are some cool ones out there, but not enough to make it worth it (and some are loaded with facepalm). Combat? Not unless I share Todd's disturbing head-explosion-fetish. (Oblivion is a lot better after you mod away the retarded level list, though.) In the end they were all good enough games, but Morrowind does well on that factor which matters the most in a Bethesda game IMO, and so is still fun going back. Needs more bloom though, I freak out because I can actually see people's faces now. Let's Play: Icewind Dale Ironman (Complete) Let's Play: Icewind Dale II Ironman (Complete) Let's Play: Divinity II (Complete) Let's Play: Baldur's Gate Trilogy Ironman - BG1 (Complete) Let's Play: Baldur's Gate Trilogy Ironman - BG2 (In Progress) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azure79 Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 The new Batman game seems pretty interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreasyDogMeat Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Played the demo of Resident Evil 5. At first, I wasn't too impressed with it playing in single player. The computer controlled companion can be stupid at times and it got frustrating losing missions when the companion died. Then I tried the coop and I absolutely love it. So much fun working with a buddy who has a clue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musopticon? Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Yeah, the co-op was really fun and hectic. Hopefully Capcom revamps the controls in the next game though. I mean, why the heck do I have to first use one button to ready the knife and then another to swing it when neither of those buttons do anything else on their own? Why not just a general "swing knife"-button?, etc. kirottu said: I was raised by polar bears. I had to fight against blood thirsty wolves and rabid penguins to get my food. Those who were too weak to survive were sent to Sweden. It has made me the man I am today. A man who craves furry hentai. So let us go and embrace the rustling smells of unseen worlds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maria Caliban Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 The new Batman game seems pretty interesting. You're not talking about the one made by Pandemic, right? "When is this out. I can't wait to play it so I can talk at length about how bad it is." - Gorgon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amentep Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 The MW avatars, especially the heads and hair, have to be some of the ugliest things ever put into a computer game. I remember people were putting out head and body mods that were actually less resource intensive for the computer and looked about a zillion times better. Face gen may have been pretty bad in Oblivion, but it WAS a giant step forward from MW. Replaying Morrowind atm; the default graphics for people are hideous. Absolutely hideous. I cannot - yet I must. How do you calculate that? At what point on the graph do "must" and "cannot" meet? Yet I must - but I cannot! ~ Ro-Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurlshort Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 The new Batman game seems pretty interesting. You're not talking about the one made by Pandemic, right? I'd assume he is. It does look rather fantastic. Seems like they are going for a Chronicles of Riddick style that might work very well for the Dark Knight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadly_Nightshade Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Velvet Assassin looks good, I think I'll get it if it's not crippled by DRM. "Geez. It's like we lost some sort of bet and ended up saddled with a bunch of terrible new posters on this forum." -Hurlshot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hell Kitty Posted February 3, 2009 Share Posted February 3, 2009 The new Batman game seems pretty interesting. You're not talking about the one made by Pandemic, right? I'd assume he is. It does look rather fantastic. Seems like they are going for a Chronicles of Riddick style that might work very well for the Dark Knight. Batman: Arkham Asylum is being developed by Rocksteady. The Pandemic game was cancelled before it was even announced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moatilliatta Posted February 3, 2009 Share Posted February 3, 2009 Velvet Assassin looks good, I think I'll get it if it's not crippled by DRM. The truth in bold. This game better not let me down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slowtrain Posted February 3, 2009 Share Posted February 3, 2009 The MW avatars, especially the heads and hair, have to be some of the ugliest things ever put into a computer game. I remember people were putting out head and body mods that were actually less resource intensive for the computer and looked about a zillion times better. Face gen may have been pretty bad in Oblivion, but it WAS a giant step forward from MW. Replaying Morrowind atm; the default graphics for people are hideous. Absolutely hideous. If you are not using them, I recommend both the Better Heads and Better Bodies mods. Especially Better Heads. I wouldn't even think of playing MW without it. Notice how I can belittle your beliefs without calling you names. It's a useful skill to have particularly where you aren't allowed to call people names. It's a mistake to get too drawn in/worked up. I mean it's not life or death, it's just two guys posting their thoughts on a message board. If it were personal or face to face all the usual restraints would be in place, and we would never have reached this place in the first place. Try to remember that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amentep Posted February 3, 2009 Share Posted February 3, 2009 If you are not using them, I recommend both the Better Heads and Better Bodies mods. Especially Better Heads. I wouldn't even think of playing MW without it. I know I have Better Bodies, I think I have Better Heads as well (I think I had both of those from my first time around). I just added one of the mods that replaces all the textures in the game making the environment look much better too, plus a few other random mods I found looking for a good world replacer. I cannot - yet I must. How do you calculate that? At what point on the graph do "must" and "cannot" meet? Yet I must - but I cannot! ~ Ro-Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigranes Posted February 3, 2009 Share Posted February 3, 2009 Morrowind people still look terrible with any mod. But that's alright, I knew what I was getting into. I'm playing a melee-oriented character for the first time and I really do miss Oblivion's blocking / sneaking / bow action (MW combat is definitely more bland), but I am not regretting my decision to go retro. Atmosphere in buckets and I'm no longer having to turn a blind eye to idiotic decisions. Hell, if you dig around the wiki, Morrowind sometimes comes up with pretty good dialogue! (Pity it doesn't last.) I also like how uncompromising the world is in comparison. Not because I'm a sadist and think games *have* to be challenging, but I just can't get immersed in any world that is so obviously handing things to you on a plate. Morrowind makes sense in comparison. In the end you don't get the diverse options and creative problem solving of, say, Sierra adventure games, but nevertheless. Let's Play: Icewind Dale Ironman (Complete) Let's Play: Icewind Dale II Ironman (Complete) Let's Play: Divinity II (Complete) Let's Play: Baldur's Gate Trilogy Ironman - BG1 (Complete) Let's Play: Baldur's Gate Trilogy Ironman - BG2 (In Progress) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgoth Posted February 3, 2009 Share Posted February 3, 2009 Velvet Assassin looks good, I think I'll get it if it's not crippled by DRM. I'd like to wait for a demo first. Something tells me this is just another lame Tomb Raider-clone set in WW2. Rain makes everything better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slowtrain Posted February 3, 2009 Share Posted February 3, 2009 If you are not using them, I recommend both the Better Heads and Better Bodies mods. Especially Better Heads. I wouldn't even think of playing MW without it. I know I have Better Bodies, I think I have Better Heads as well (I think I had both of those from my first time around). I just added one of the mods that replaces all the textures in the game making the environment look much better too, plus a few other random mods I found looking for a good world replacer. Some of those texture mods were system killers a few years ago. It must be kind of neat to run them now on a better system and be able to actual enjoy the improvements while still keeping up your frames per second. Notice how I can belittle your beliefs without calling you names. It's a useful skill to have particularly where you aren't allowed to call people names. It's a mistake to get too drawn in/worked up. I mean it's not life or death, it's just two guys posting their thoughts on a message board. If it were personal or face to face all the usual restraints would be in place, and we would never have reached this place in the first place. Try to remember that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WILL THE ALMIGHTY Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 FEAR 2 looks like a well made shooter. Though it looks like it lacks the feel of the original: a certain je-ne-sais-quoi from the seemingly cheap environments and ordinary office buildings with completely ****ed up paranormal events going on. I'm pretty sure I'm not gonna like it. "Alright, I've been thinking. When life gives you lemons, don't make lemonade - make life take the lemons back! Get mad! I don't want your damn lemons, what am I supposed to do with these? Demand to see life's manager. Make life rue the day it thought it could give Cave Johnson lemons. Do you know who I am? I'm the man who's gonna burn your house down! With the lemons. I'm going to to get my engineers to invent a combustible lemon that burns your house down!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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