Arkan Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070111/ap_on_hi_te/spy_coins_10 WASHINGTON - Money talks, but can it also follow your movements? In a U.S. government warning high on the creepiness scale, the Defense Department cautioned its American contractors over what it described as a new espionage threat: Canadian coins with tiny radio frequency transmitters hidden inside. The government said the mysterious coins were found planted on U.S. contractors with classified security clearances on at least three separate occasions between October 2005 and January 2006 as the contractors traveled through Canada. Intelligence and technology experts said such transmitters, if they exist, could be used to surreptitiously track the movements of people carrying the spy coins. The U.S. report doesn't suggest who might be tracking American defense contractors or why. It also doesn't describe how the Pentagon discovered the ruse, how the transmitters might function or even which Canadian currency contained them. Further details were secret, according to the U.S. Defense Security Service, which issued the warning to the Pentagon's classified contractors. The government insists the incidents happened, and the risk was genuine. "What's in the report is true," said Martha Deutscher, a spokeswoman for the security service. "This is indeed a sanitized version, which leaves a lot of questions." Top suspects, according to outside experts: China, Russia or even France "Of course the people don't want war. But after all, it's the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it's always a simple matter to drag the people along whether it's a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger." - Herman Goering at the Nuremberg trials "I have also been slowly coming to the realisation that knowledge and happiness are not necessarily coincident, and quite often mutually exclusive" - meta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laozi Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 THey might know about our invasion plans People laugh when I say that I think a jellyfish is one of the most beautiful things in the world. What they don't understand is, I mean a jellyfish with long, blond hair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astr0creep Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 "Intelligence and technology experts said such transmitters, if they exist, could be used to surreptitiously track the movements of people carrying the spy coins." http://entertainmentandbeyond.blogspot.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deraldin Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 (edited) I prefer the CBC version. I especially like this part: [sNIP] Makes no sense The likely need for such a reading device means the doctored coins could be used to track people only in a controlled setting, not over long distances, said Chris Mathers, a security consultant and former undercover RCMP officer. "From a technology perspective, it makes no sense," he said. "To me it's very strange." Then there's the obvious problem: what if the coin holder plunks the device into a pop machine? "You give the guy something with a transmitter that he's going to spend Edited January 11, 2007 by Deraldin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gfted1 Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 ...a female foreign spy who seduced her American boyfriend to steal his computer passwords. Why doesnt this ever happen to me? "I'm your biggest fan, Ill follow you until you love me, Papa" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xard Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 Because you have brain cancer? On topic: :crazy: How can it be a no ob build. It has PROVEN effective. I dare you to show your builds and I will tear you apart in an arugment about how these builds will won them. - OverPowered Godzilla (OPG) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guard Dog Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 Be careful Canada. If you piss us off we'll take away another one of your hockey teams. How about the New Orleans Maple Leafs? "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deraldin Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 Be careful Canada. If you piss us off we'll take away another one of your hockey teams. How about the New Orleans Maple Leafs? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hah! Go ahead and take them! New Orleans will be renamed Toronto within a year after the influx of Canadian fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krookie Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 And I thought you guys were my friends! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metadigital Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 I don't see the point in a transmitter of this sort. Unless it was a booster that amplified, say, the EMR frequency signature sequence that a keypress makes, for example ... " OBSCVRVM PER OBSCVRIVS ET IGNOTVM PER IGNOTIVS OPVS ARTIFICEM PROBAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kor Qel Droma Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 that'll teach you for thinking, Krook :D Jaguars4ever is still alive. No word of a lie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sand Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 We should invade. They might have WMDs. Murphy's Law of Computer Gaming: The listed minimum specifications written on the box by the publisher are not the minimum specifications of the game set by the developer. @\NightandtheShape/@ - "Because you're a bizzare strange deranged human?" Walsingham- "Sand - always rushing around, stirring up apathy." Joseph Bulock - "Another headache, courtesy of Sand" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deraldin Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 We should invade. They might have WMDs. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> They aren't ours I swear! We were just holding on to them for a friend! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sand Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 (edited) Well, the fact you have them makes you a more viable target to invade than lets say... Iraq was. DIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! Oh, wait. We don't actually invade countries that have been confirmed to have WMDs, like North Korea. Silly me. :crazy: Edited January 11, 2007 by Sand Murphy's Law of Computer Gaming: The listed minimum specifications written on the box by the publisher are not the minimum specifications of the game set by the developer. @\NightandtheShape/@ - "Because you're a bizzare strange deranged human?" Walsingham- "Sand - always rushing around, stirring up apathy." Joseph Bulock - "Another headache, courtesy of Sand" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volourn Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 (edited) Iraq was confirmed to have WMDs. That was the whole reason why they were ordered to destroy them. LOL It would seem odd for the Un to order Iraq to destroy soemthing they don't have or for Sadda, to admit to having them. Not to mention the fact Iraq has used WMD so it is a fact they had them. As for the topic, it's an odd way to go about spying on your neighbour. While it seems silly for Kanada to spy on the US and vice versa. I'm sure they both do it as a matter of course. Edited January 12, 2007 by Volourn DWARVES IN PROJECT ETERNITY = VOLOURN HAS PLEDGED $250. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sand Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 When did Iraq use WMDs when the US invaded? Murphy's Law of Computer Gaming: The listed minimum specifications written on the box by the publisher are not the minimum specifications of the game set by the developer. @\NightandtheShape/@ - "Because you're a bizzare strange deranged human?" Walsingham- "Sand - always rushing around, stirring up apathy." Joseph Bulock - "Another headache, courtesy of Sand" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volourn Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 Nobody said they did. DWARVES IN PROJECT ETERNITY = VOLOURN HAS PLEDGED $250. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metadigital Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 Back on topic. As for the topic, it's an odd way to go about spying on yoru neighbour. While it seems silly for Kanada to spy on the US and vice versa. I'm sure they both do it as a matter of course. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> It's probably the Chinese. :ph34r: OBSCVRVM PER OBSCVRIVS ET IGNOTVM PER IGNOTIVS OPVS ARTIFICEM PROBAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Raven Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 Kanada wouldn't spy on us. They're one of our loyal subjects. They know what happens when you make Big Brother angry, invasion time! Hades was the life of the party. RIP You'll be missed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metadigital Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 Nah, they'd just destabilize the economy / government and let a new lot in. OBSCVRVM PER OBSCVRIVS ET IGNOTVM PER IGNOTIVS OPVS ARTIFICEM PROBAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gromnir Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 Back on topic. As for the topic, it's an odd way to go about spying on yoru neighbour. While it seems silly for Kanada to spy on the US and vice versa. I'm sure they both do it as a matter of course. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> It's probably the Chinese. :ph34r: <{POST_SNAPBACK}> wouldn't doubt it... and microsoft probably designed whatever software the chinese use in conjunction with the transmitters. HA! Good Fun! "If there be time to expose through discussion the falsehood and fallacies, to avert the evil by the processes of education, the remedy to be applied is more speech, not enforced silence."Justice Louis Brandeis, Concurring, Whitney v. California, 274 U.S. 357 (1927) "Im indifferent to almost any murder as long as it doesn't affect me or mine."--Gfted1 (September 30, 2019) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calax Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 and with the amount of canadian money that is accepted in the US as legit it's surprising. I am not kidding you... go up to Canada, make change for a couple of dollars, and start slipping them into your change when you pay for somthing. You'd be surprised how many people accept them, I've gotten several from rolls that were made by the bank. Other forms of currency that are similar to the US coin are used (I got one that looks almost russian back has a giant five and the word KO(II)EEK the II is connected at the top.) Victor of the 5 year fan fic competition! Kevin Butler will awesome your face off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deraldin Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 and with the amount of canadian money that is accepted in the US as legit it's surprising. I am not kidding you... go up to Canada, make change for a couple of dollars, and start slipping them into your change when you pay for somthing. You'd be surprised how many people accept them, I've gotten several from rolls that were made by the bank. Other forms of currency that are similar to the US coin are used (I got one that looks almost russian back has a giant five and the word KO(II)EEK the II is connected at the top.) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> And I bet that when you go make change for those few dollars that you'll get a few US coins as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarna Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 (I got one that looks almost russian back has a giant five and the word KO(II)EEK the II is connected at the top.) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The word 'Kopyek' is the Russian equivelent to dollar. This sound like BS but if it is true and they are using the exterior metal of the coin as the transmitting 'antenna', a simple trip to the nearest microwave would destroy the internals of the device. This will BTW, also destroy any hidden RDF chips that are being considered being added to clothing and what-not. Can't have Sears 'seeing' what size and colour of Victoria's Secrets underwear that Sand is wearing that day. Ruminations... When a man has no Future, the Present passes too quickly to be assimilated and only the static Past has value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kor Qel Droma Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 Tarna FTW!!! Jaguars4ever is still alive. No word of a lie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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