HoonDing Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 That's why you play pew pew character in Elex The ending of the words is ALMSIVI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uuuhhii Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 still remember how awful archer are in gothic and risen does elex have better ranged combat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVC Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 6 minutes ago, uuuhhii said: still remember how awful archer are in gothic and risen does elex have better ranged combat It works, I dont remember it being elegant but it works and you also get to use ranged weapons like energy weapons "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyrock Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 1 hour ago, uuuhhii said: does elex have better ranged combat I would describe Elex's ranged combat as "passable". RFK Jr 2024 "Any organization created out of fear must create fear to survive." - Bill Hicks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wormerine Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 Hitman3 finally getting released for real on the 20th. New Elusive Target Arcade sounds better then ET as they are not time limited and they are retryable (although one attempt per day) - I felt that one attempt ET encouraged looking at walkthrough rather then experimenting yourself. Freelancer mode sounds potentially interesting. Depending on how good the roguelike structure will be. Most importantly, for anyone who didn't yet give this game a go the whole trilogy will be out on Game Pass. I will probably end up buying H3 on steam anyway - if not now (depending on price) then later. The only shadow hanging over the game is always online nonesense. It would be shame if the game would go offline sometime in the future. Oh, and I would actually like to try the VR. Too pricey piece of equipement for me, though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVC Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 12 hours ago, Wormerine said: Hitman3 finally getting released for real on the 20th. New Elusive Target Arcade sounds better then ET as they are not time limited and they are retryable (although one attempt per day) - I felt that one attempt ET encouraged looking at walkthrough rather then experimenting yourself. Freelancer mode sounds potentially interesting. Depending on how good the roguelike structure will be. Most importantly, for anyone who didn't yet give this game a go the whole trilogy will be out on Game Pass. I will probably end up buying H3 on steam anyway - if not now (depending on price) then later. The only shadow hanging over the game is always online nonesense. It would be shame if the game would go offline sometime in the future. Oh, and I would actually like to try the VR. Too pricey piece of equipement for me, though. I have been considering for years investing in VR, Im just not sure the technology is advanced enough? Wormie imagine VR Romance arcs with Isabella in DA2 "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wormerine Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 (edited) 6 hours ago, BruceVC said: Wormie imagine VR Romance arcs with Isabella in DA2 I don't think VR could salvage anything from DA2, nor could it make it's romances any less awkward. Edited January 14, 2022 by Wormerine 3 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanisatha Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 5 hours ago, Wormerine said: I don't think VR could salvage anything from DA2, nor could it make it's romances any less awkward. Hey @Wormerine, you seem to be so radically opposed to romances in RPGs to where I have to ask: does that carry over into RL as well? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wormerine Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, kanisatha said: Hey @Wormerine, you seem to be so radically opposed to romances in RPGs to where I have to ask: does that carry over into RL as well? 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melkathi Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 I find most romances in games intrusive, distracting, and cringe worthy 2 1 Unobtrusively informing you about my new ebook (which you should feel free to read and shower with praise). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theonlygarby Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 1 minute ago, melkathi said: I find most romances in games intrusive, distracting, and cringe worthy They can be quite intrusive, distracting and cringe worthy in real life too 1 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcador Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 17 minutes ago, melkathi said: I find most romances in games intrusive, distracting, and cringe worthy So, like real life romances. 1 6 Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gfted1 Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 How would you know? 8 1 2 "I'm your biggest fan, Ill follow you until you love me, Papa" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcador Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 27 minutes ago, Gfted1 said: How would you know? Theoretical knowledge is still knowledge! 5 2 1 Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarex Posted January 14, 2022 Author Share Posted January 14, 2022 Savages the lot of you! 2 "because they filled mommy with enough mythic power to become a demi-god" - KP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_dog_days Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 2 hours ago, melkathi said: I find most romances in games intrusive, distracting, and cringe worthy "We're all alone. *bites lip* In a hayloft. Opps! Who left a riding crop up here?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melkathi Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 That sounds like Loren The Amazon Princess or some other game by Winter Wolves Unobtrusively informing you about my new ebook (which you should feel free to read and shower with praise). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoraptor Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 I think he's been re-reading Robert Jordan. If the Wheel of Time game had been a faithful recreation the ultimate weapon would have been spanking rather than balefire. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComradeYellow Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 On 1/13/2022 at 10:27 AM, Wormerine said: The only shadow hanging over the game is always online nonesense. Why is everyone always trying to Balkanize gaming? Always online actually works great for the new Hitman series because you get a sense of being part of some Hitman agency with new contracts and stuff. Speaking of Balkanization: https://venturebeat.com/2022/01/12/stalker-2-heart-of-chernobyl-delayed-to-december-2022/ LOL how very "Cyberpunk", hope dies last after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wormerine Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 6 hours ago, ComradeYellow said: Always online actually works great for the new Hitman series because you get a sense of being part of some Hitman agency with new contracts and stuff. I think Hitman community features and live service content is a good thing. There is, however, no reason to lock game progression behind the server. While it doesn't annoy me now when I have stable internet, it still puts the game in unfortunate position, that it might become unplayable if devs ever shut the servers without adding a proper offline mode. I didn't try it, but as far as I remember you can't do mission progression without connecting online. It's a single player game - there is no reason to require constant connection if one doesn't engage with online modes. Hopefully IO will patch in a solution once they shut the servers for online content. But as it is now, you can only play the game, for as long as IO will allow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVC Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 (edited) On 1/14/2022 at 6:08 PM, melkathi said: I find most romances in games intrusive, distracting, and cringe worthy Melkie you know Romance arcs in RPG are the same as all components in RPG, they not suppose to be same as RL or the things we do in RL? You use your imagination and RP the various outcomes and developments but its never going to be like Gone with the Wind and other real Romance stories Also I am always interested in the criticism that they intrusive and distracting, can you give examples in any game how optional Romance arcs are truly intrusive? Because I generally always explore Romance arcs, if I like the Romance options, in all games and if I think of Bioware games where you have straight and LGBT options it was easy to shutdown the unwanted attention from the gay wizard in my party because the first time he flirted with me I just said something like " I would prefer to be friends " and he never flirted with me again So my question to you and others is " how can the inclusion of optional Romance arcs really be a problem when they so easy to avoid or not to participate in " ? Edited January 17, 2022 by BruceVC "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mamoulian War Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 9 hours ago, Wormerine said: I think Hitman community features and live service content is a good thing. There is, however, no reason to lock game progression behind the server. While it doesn't annoy me now when I have stable internet, it still puts the game in unfortunate position, that it might become unplayable if devs ever shut the servers without adding a proper offline mode. I didn't try it, but as far as I remember you can't do mission progression without connecting online. It's a single player game - there is no reason to require constant connection if one doesn't engage with online modes. Hopefully IO will patch in a solution once they shut the servers for online content. But as it is now, you can only play the game, for as long as IO will allow. Do not hope for that. If it is the same, as last Hitman, then you can play in offline mode, but everything you achieve is not stored on your PC, so every new mission starts with nothing. IO after publishing it in that state on GOG, received a big backlash, and instead of fixing it, they rather pulled the game from the store. 1 Sent from my Stone Tablet, using Chisel-a-Talk 2000BC. My youtube channel: MamoulianFH Latest Let's Play Tales of Arise (completed) Latest Bossfight Compilation Dark Souls Remastered - New Game (completed) Let's Play/AAR Europa Universalis 1: Austria Grand Campaign (completed) Let's Play/AAR Europa Universalis 2: Xhosa Grand Campaign (completed) My PS Platinums and 100% - 29 games so far (my PSN profile) 1) God of War III - PS3 - 24+ hours 2) Final Fantasy XIII - PS3 - 130+ hours 3) White Knight Chronicles International Edition - PS3 - 525+ hours 4) Hyperdimension Neptunia - PS3 - 80+ hours 5) Final Fantasy XIII-2 - PS3 - 200+ hours 6) Tales of Xillia - PS3 - 135+ hours 7) Hyperdimension Neptunia mk2 - PS3 - 152+ hours 8.) Grand Turismo 6 - PS3 - 81+ hours (including Senna Master DLC) 9) Demon's Souls - PS3 - 197+ hours 10) Tales of Graces f - PS3 - 337+ hours 11) Star Ocean: The Last Hope International - PS3 - 750+ hours 12) Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII - PS3 - 127+ hours 13) Soulcalibur V - PS3 - 73+ hours 14) Gran Turismo 5 - PS3 - 600+ hours 15) Tales of Xillia 2 - PS3 - 302+ hours 16) Mortal Kombat XL - PS4 - 95+ hours 17) Project CARS Game of the Year Edition - PS4 - 120+ hours 18) Dark Souls - PS3 - 197+ hours 19) Hyperdimension Neptunia Victory - PS3 - 238+ hours 20) Final Fantasy Type-0 - PS4 - 58+ hours 21) Journey - PS4 - 9+ hours 22) Dark Souls II - PS3 - 210+ hours 23) Fairy Fencer F - PS3 - 215+ hours 24) Megadimension Neptunia VII - PS4 - 160 hours 25) Super Neptunia RPG - PS4 - 44+ hours 26) Journey - PS3 - 22+ hours 27) Final Fantasy XV - PS4 - 263+ hours (including all DLCs) 28) Tales of Arise - PS4 - 111+ hours 29) Dark Souls: Remastered - PS4 - 121+ hours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wormerine Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 (edited) 11 hours ago, BruceVC said: So my question to you and others is " how can the inclusion of optional Romance arcs really be a problem when they so easy to avoid or not to participate in " ? Because it’s never that. I don’t mind developing a love interest with a companion. Or having a companion have a romance (like in Outer Worlds). But when every companion tries to get in bed with PC or with each other it becomes ridiculous. It turns from fun fantasy adventure to one of those reality shows. And easy example of companions downgraded with romance is PoE => PoE2. We just don’t get such a varied and interesting cast in the sequel as almost everyone needs to be boinkable. I will take Sagani, Grieving Widow or Durance anytime over ripped Takehu, horny Xoti, or cool sexy Maia. And yes, I can turn down their creepy advances, but then they publically start hitting on each other, and none of them support the story as well as they could, as part of their character is designed to act as romance interest option. Honestly, I prefer Skyrim’s Sterdew Valley romances then written Bioware-like schlock. EDIT: I must also say that I found "romancable" companions to be especially problematic in more "movie" like games aka. Mass Effect. While you can, let's say reject Miranda, it won't stop the game's camera from treating her like a hot baby that you should try to bang. I think if games were more restrained with romance, until player opts deeper into it, it would be less invasive. Especially ME3 was terrible in that regard... but then again, it was ME3. Edited January 17, 2022 by Wormerine 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVC Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 19 minutes ago, Wormerine said: Because it’s never that. I don’t mind developing a love interest with a companion. Or having a companion have a romance (like in Outer Worlds). But when every companion tries to get in bed with PC or with each other it becomes ridiculous. It turns from fun fantasy adventure to one of those reality shows. And easy example of companions downgraded with romance is PoE => PoE2. We just don’t get such a varied and interesting cast in the sequel as almost everyone needs to be boinkable. I will take Sagani, Grieving Widow or Durance anytime over ripped Takehu, horny Xoti, or cool sexy Maia. And yes, I can turn down their creepy advances, but then they publically start hitting on each other, and none of them support the story as well as they could, as part of their character is designed to act as romance interest option. Honestly, I prefer Skyrim’s Sterdew Valley romances then written Bioware-like schlock. I havent played PoE yet so I cant comment, I just know its easy to end Bioware Romance arcs in about 30 seconds. Because you just say " no " in the dialogue options and your party members dont re-initiate the Romance unless you do, as far as I remember, but the point being its not intrusive 1 "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melkathi Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 If you have six companions, who you all try to improve your relationship with to unlock whatever bonus, then you have to say six nos, not one. And there now are six times you have "hurt" someone. And there are now six times you actively decide to forgo content.Which goes against complesionist urges. Romance just ends up better written and implemented in odd games one wouldn't talk about to people here and better confined to tfgamessite (which you should not Google and I have no idea what it is). 1 1 2 Unobtrusively informing you about my new ebook (which you should feel free to read and shower with praise). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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