The all things Political Topic - When the sun Rises, the shadows must retreat Fleeing in fear from the Fires of dawn

[Gfted1]

The pandemic has been beneficial for me due to my mostly working from home. And what with a terrifying new COVID variant around every corner, Im hoping to never go back to the office full time.

I wonder what will happen when we run out of letters of the alphabet? Maybe just switch to numbering the variants and that way we can keep going to infinity.

[BruceVC]

1 minute ago, Gfted1 said:

The pandemic has been beneficial for me due to my mostly working from home. And what with a terrifying new COVID variant around every corner, Im hoping to never go back to the office full time.

I wonder what will happen when we run out of letters of the alphabet? Maybe just switch to numbering the variants and that way we can keep going to infinity.

Their is a real scientific argument that the UK is currently having that is similar to what you saying

Basically the UK government is saying " we will have variants for years so does mean we will be wearing masks for years "  and its valid

That is why they lifting all restrictions today, including mask wearing , and making these things optional. But it requires a high vaccination rate which they accept means the virus will spread in the UK but not the hospitalization rate and deaths 

The problem in the USA is you dont have a higher enough vaccination rate so you shouldnt be removing all restrictions 

Anyway we will see how it works out in the UK 

[Gfted1]

Do you go into the "office" every day? Or is SA on lockdown and you work from home?

[BruceVC]

1 minute ago, Gfted1 said:

Do you go into the "office" every day? Or is SA on lockdown and you work from home?

I work from home with 90 % of my work

When we not going through a wave I have been to one or 2 customers onsite but basically since our lockdown started last year March none of the large listed companies that are primarily my customers have been open like they use to so everyone works remotely....with the exception of helpdesks and some isolated meetings

This is part of the problem with our economic recovery, we not selling new business because that requires onsite visits which wont happen in SA until most of us have been vaccinated 

So the objective of getting vaccines is not just about socializing for me but being able to work as we use to. I am basically a consultant and you cant consult sitting at home 

[Gfted1]

Are you allowed to be out and about if you are wearing a paper or cloth covering over your nose and mouth? 

[BruceVC]

8 minutes ago, Gfted1 said:

Are you allowed to be out and about if you are wearing a paper or cloth covering over your nose and mouth? 

Yes we are, and restaurants and malls are open and so is any business that chooses to be fully open 

Alcohol is banned so bars are closed that only sell alcohol but bars are open for food sales 

But masks are mandatory and legally required if you  go can inside any shop or public space 

[Gfted1]

58 minutes ago, BruceVC said:

Yes we are, and restaurants and malls are open and so is any business that chooses to be fully open 

Alcohol is banned so bars are closed that only sell alcohol but bars are open for food sales 

But masks are mandatory and legally required if you  go can inside any shop or public space 

Do you have one of these:

If we outfitted everyone with this bad boy we could stomp out diseases and usher in a new era of prosperity.

[Amentep]

Too much exposed skin around the sternoclavicle joint.  I tell you, you have to go full on Quarian to get it to work right.

[Gfted1]

Not the sternoclavicle joint! So your saying its less effective if I wear my shirt unbuttoned down to my navel? Dammit, back to the drawing board.  

[Amentep]

Manly chests only have 5 AC vs viruses.  -3 for majestic chesthair rugs like they had in the 70s.  You need to get that AC at least to 0 (lower for demonic strains).

[BruceVC]

30 minutes ago, Gfted1 said:

Do you have one of these:

If we outfitted everyone with this bad boy we could stomp out diseases and usher in a new era of prosperity.

I wonder how much one of those bad boys costs....its looks expensive?

 I wanted to share with you something additional about the UK approach to the virus which makes sense to me on certain levels especially considering the reality of endless variants as you also raised

I was just watching their daily update and today is their reopening, as in optional mask wearing and everything open like clubs which are typically super spreader events 

So they now seeing 50k new cases a day and they predict 100k new cases  a day but they seeing very low hospitalization rates because of the high vaccination rate so the UK government is understandably fine with that. Their are numerous critics to their approach for different reasons. The biggest risk is a variant that evolves that escapes vaccine efficacy at least with all the current vaccines. So far we havent seen this globally but its possible

But you can mitigate this by the creation of new vaccines. But from September the UK  will make it mandatory for vaccine passports in places like clubs. So here is my question to you and others, would you accept vaccine passports  (meaning you have to  prove  you had a vaccine ) to go  to work or visit anywhere outside your house?

I cant see how we will reduce the spread of the virus in any country without making vaccines almost mandatory? Whats your view on this ?The alternative is you accept 5 % of all unvaccinated people will eventually get the virus and die from it ...thats a lot of people if you consider the population of the USA and its 30 % unvaccinated citizens?

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/vaccine-passport-compulsory-for-nightclubs-and-large-events-from-september/ar-AAMk7wf

[Gfted1]

Iirc, the helmet was ~$250.

If I had to show my vax card to get into work or shopping then I would, but it may be a little different here in the US. We dont have any digital records or app for our phone, so I would have to bust out this silly looking thing:

As you will notice, its a simple piece of paper that the pharmacist simply handwrites you name, birth date, dose type and shot date. I could literally make this right now on my printer. So basically, I dont have any faith that a person cant fake one easily.

[BruceVC]

38 minutes ago, Gfted1 said:

Iirc, the helmet was ~$250.

If I had to show my vax card to get into work or shopping then I would, but it may be a little different here in the US. We dont have any digital records or app for our phone, so I would have to bust out this silly looking thing:

As you will notice, its a simple piece of paper that the pharmacist simply handwrites you name, birth date, dose type and shot date. I could literally make this right now on my printer. So basically, I dont have any faith that a person cant fake one easily.

Good point....that is a stumbling block but I wonder if many people would lie about this type of thing?

Oh, thats a very reasonable price for what that helmet is 

[Amentep]

19 minutes ago, BruceVC said:

but I wonder if many people would lie about this type of thing?

The answer is "yes".

[BruceVC]

2 minutes ago, Amentep said:

The answer is "yes".

Its a pity that is the answer because then the USA is in for tens  of thousands more deaths amongst those who refuse to be vaccinated if you consider the overall 30 % of the total population who resist the proven science 

[Gromnir]

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HA! Good Fun!

[Gorth]

That red cap is missing the maga logo???

[Gromnir]

3 minutes ago, Gorth said:

That red cap is missing the maga logo???

kinda implied, which must suck if you are a cincinnati red's fan or similar... though am suspecting if you are a bloods gang member, the confusion is less likely. even so, nowadays you see somebody in a red hat and even if it don't explicit say trump or "make america great again," people will jump to conclusion you are a maga supporter.

similar, we got a jack lambert and a roberto clemente jersey. both is black and gold. now given our complexion, is unlikely people assume we is a proud boy 'cause am sporting black and gold, but...

HA! Good Fun!

 

[Raithe]

Quelle Surprise....

https://thehackernews.com/2021/07/us-and-global-allies-accuse-china-of.html

The U.S. government and its key allies, including the European Union, the U.K., and NATO, formally attributed the massive cyberattack against Microsoft Exchange email servers to state-sponsored hacking crews working affiliated with the People's Republic of China's Ministry of State Security (MSS).

In a statement issued by the White House on Monday, the administration said, "with a high degree of confidence that malicious cyber actors affiliated with PRC's MSS conducted cyber-espionage operations utilizing the zero-day vulnerabilities in Microsoft Exchange Server disclosed in early March 2021. The U.K. government accused Beijing of a "pervasive pattern of hacking" and "systemic cyber sabotage."

 

[ComradeYellow]

^U.S government blaming their goofs on their geopolitical rivals to whip up public hatred?  Gee that's a new one, luckily the public isn't that stupid and are on to them at this point, oh wait...

Couple tidbits

Former DHS Chief: ‘The Republican Party Is the #1 National Security Threat to the USA’ - News Punch

The Republican Party is the #1 national security threat to the U.S., not Russia, Iran, ISIS, China etc, according to a Republican renegade.  Cool, the Republican Party should be the law and order and security party and largely agnostic on most other issues.  It's just people like Ronald Reagan, W., and Donald Trump who destroyed the party and turned it into a confederate-like Party and now an outright fascist party.

Whatever Happened To European Corporate Competitors? (hedgeye.com)

Europeans don't really seem to like entrepreneurship and corporate giants, something they definitely have in common with the Russians, keep that income gap nice and low and largely rely on the U.S. for major companies, whilst keeping a few niche homegrown companies that aren't really expansive.

Americans and the Chinese have much more in common as far as business goes, which explains both countries huge GDP.

Food for thought.

[BruceVC]

9 hours ago, ComradeYellow said:

^U.S government blaming their goofs on their geopolitical rivals to whip up public hatred?  Gee that's a new one, luckily the public isn't that stupid and are on to them at this point, oh wait...

Couple tidbits

Former DHS Chief: ‘The Republican Party Is the #1 National Security Threat to the USA’ - News Punch

The Republican Party is the #1 national security threat to the U.S., not Russia, Iran, ISIS, China etc, according to a Republican renegade.  Cool, the Republican Party should be the law and order and security party and largely agnostic on most other issues.  It's just people like Ronald Reagan, W., and Donald Trump who destroyed the party and turned it into a confederate-like Party and now an outright fascist party.

Whatever Happened To European Corporate Competitors? (hedgeye.com)

Europeans don't really seem to like entrepreneurship and corporate giants, something they definitely have in common with the Russians, keep that income gap nice and low and largely rely on the U.S. for major companies, whilst keeping a few niche homegrown companies that aren't really expansive.

Americans and the Chinese have much more in common as far as business goes, which explains both countries huge GDP.

Food for thought.

Hi Comrade " waves "

I have missed your Communist\Socialist  hyperbole , where have you been?

The GOP is not  even remotely like ISIS, Russia or China. No need to worry but I appreciate your concern. Remember none of those groups\countries are Constitutional Democracies and the  Constitution is always the bulwark to prevent the collapse of the USA into some terrible CCP autocratic dictatorship where people have no rights to even criticize government and where their is no transparent legal system

Also MSNBC is like some  far left extremist news channel, lets be honest? Its  the opposite of FOX but on the left so I dont generally take anything that comes from them as objective or something that should typically concern us  

[majestic]

On 7/19/2021 at 7:48 PM, Gfted1 said:

Do you have one of these:

If we outfitted everyone with this bad boy we could stomp out diseases and usher in a new era of prosperity.

 

That reminds me a lot of the divine predecessors...

 

May his merciful Shadow fall upon you!

[Sarex]

An independent report on Srebrenica finds that it's not a genocide.

https://incomfis-srebrenica.org/

[Gorth]

4 hours ago, majestic said:

 

That reminds me a lot of the divine predecessors...

 

May his merciful Shadow fall upon you!

I think it's time to dust off ye olde Lexx dvd's again... (got all seasons on dvd). Probably my favourite sci-fi show after Firefly

[ComradeYellow]

G.O.P. Blocks Infrastructure Debate in Senate, Raising Doubts About a Deal - The New York Times (nytimes.com)

^Why China will win.

This has nothing to do with "Freedom vs. unFreedom" or "Democracies vs. Dictatorships", this is all about results and development.  China has an extremely robust and flexible economy at this point and the central government can literally allocate resources on the fly to strategic sectors that can promote modern industrial development, with minimal effort, promoting rapid progress.

The U.S. government can't even get basic 20 years behind the times projects initiated because the opposition will just block it.

You can grab a harmonica and sit out on your porch at sunset and play Stevie Wonder songs all you like, the U.S. will fall behind if it doesn't get its act together.  Raw corporate innovation and consumption isn't enough to stay ahead of the game.