Politics US Edition (2021-vol 2)

[Guard Dog]

Georgia has reached the point where Atlanta and Savanna’ can overwhelm the rest of the state.

[Amentep]

Metro-Atlanta and Savannah are where most of the state taxes come from (with some from Augusta and maybe Macon).

Population density is in favor of the Metro area on state wide votes.

[ComradeYellow]

Margaret Kimberley on Twitter: "If Trump wants to get back at democrats this is what he should do. It also happens to be the right thing." / Twitter

Nice, the Russiagate fraud is being discredited, even on the Left.  What's right is right regardless of your political compass, and Russiagate was always wrong.

[rjshae]

6 hours ago, ComradeMaster said:

Margaret Kimberley on Twitter: "If Trump wants to get back at democrats this is what he should do. It also happens to be the right thing." / Twitter

Nice, the Russiagate fraud is being discredited, even on the Left.  What's right is right regardless of your political compass, and Russiagate was always wrong.

Is it a fraud? Is it wrong? We don't know yet; Trumpies claim it is, but that's pure conjecture on their part rather than fact, and the Trump camp is hardly known for its honesty. The problem is that the Russian interference needed to be investigated for national security reasons, even if the actual likelihood is low. Trump turned it into a political battle by obstructing the investigation, thereby raising suspicions. It remains an open question that still needs to be answered.

[Hurlshort]

Former Colorado City mayor has an interesting approach to the current weather emergency.

[Malcador]

26 minutes ago, Hurlshot said:

Former Colorado City mayor has an interesting approach to the current weather emergency.

"Harden the **** up" is what you'd expect, I have to say.  Well, could also expect "this is due to immorality/gays/liberals"

[ShadySands]

35 minutes ago, Malcador said:

"Harden the **** up" is what you'd expect, I have to say.  Well, could also expect "this is due to immorality/gays/liberals"

They've already tried to blame it on green energy so why not

[Guard Dog]

14 minutes ago, ShadySands said:

They've already tried to blame it on green energy so why not

LOL I have solar and it’s so useful right no I had to turn it off! I’m going to go with this being God‘s punishment. We’re so evil he rotated earth so the northern hemisphere Is further away from the sun. And if we’re not nice he’ll do it again next year! 
 

sometimes I feel sorry for God. He catches hell for a lot of stupid things

Edited February 17, 2021 by Guard Dog

[ShadySands]

Here's a link

https://www.newsweek.com/greg-abbott-blames-texas-power-outages-green-energy-state-depends-gas-1569804

[Guard Dog]

1 minute ago, ShadySands said:

Here's a link

https://www.newsweek.com/greg-abbott-blames-texas-power-outages-green-energy-state-depends-gas-1569804

Oh my God I thought you were jokingOh my God I thought you were joking

[PK htiw klaw eriF]

1 hour ago, Hurlshot said:

Former Colorado City mayor has an interesting approach to the current weather emergency.

If someone doesn't punch this dude in the face I will be very disappointed.

37 minutes ago, Guard Dog said:

Oh my God I thought you were jokingOh my God I thought you were joking

At this point you should never assume anything is a joke.

Anywho I recently got power back after it being down for 12 hours (after previously losing it for a day) so I guess I can expect 4 hour blocks of power over the next few days outside of which I have no reliable way of keeping informed or ****ing around online. ERCOT and the entire Texas government can kiss my ass.

[Gromnir]

5 hours ago, Guard Dog said:

Oh my God I thought you were jokingOh my God I thought you were joking

fox news has been doubling down on the claims that the texas power outages is proof o' the non viability of the green new deal. 

it may be ludicrous, but recall that a large % of americans get their tv news almost exclusive from fox and from online sources even more mendacious.  many in the trump base will be parroting tucker carlson in the days and weeks to come.

iowa is also a red state hit hard by the recent cold, and the hawkeye state gets +40% o' its power from wind. during the winter months, texas gets 7% o' its electricity from wind, though yearly is just under 25%.  iowa is suffering blackout issues, but almost all is attributable to natural gas issues. 

 

admitted, antarctica is much drier than texas, so the icing problem is not the same in antarctica as were the case in texas, but is many places around the globe where wind turbines has been successful winterized.  nevertheless, fox is using this texas republican failure to properly regulate their energy producers as a way to make a point 'bout the evils o' renewable energy.

after the election and the loss o' fox vieweres to oan and newsmax, the network's gameplan looks to be an effort to out fox previous fox polarization efforts. fox post mortem conclusions were that as an organization they were being too sympathetic to opposing viewpoints and the fox news people had too much power with their insistence on at least infrequent referencing facts.

HA! Good Fun!

 

Edited February 18, 2021 by Gromnir

[Malcador]

Situation in Texas shows the benefits of less regulations, for sure.

[Gorth]

38 minutes ago, Malcador said:

Situation in Texas shows the benefits of less regulations, for sure.

The temperatures seems less regulated

[Gromnir]

23 minutes ago, Gorth said:

The temperatures seems less regulated

which should be the position o' those who wanna defend texas for not regulating. point out that the storm is unprecedented may not be complete accurate given the warnings texas was provided by mother nature and the feds in 2011, but is at least a reasonable response. the harsh reality o' cost v. benefit analysis might lead to the conclusion that preparing for a unprecedented storm is economic inefficient in the long run.  opt instead for pathetic deflection and mendacious gaslighting? 

if wind turbines v winter were the problem, then north dakota should be facing yearly problems akin to what texas is facing today. north dakota gets a higher percentage o' its electricity from wind turbines than does texas and the historic cold weather in texas would be viewed as mild by a resident o' north dakota for this time o' year. yeah, when temps in north dakota drop below negative 20 F, which they do all too often, the wind turbines grind to a halt. the thing is, north dakota plans for such events and is not complete crippled by 'em.

nevertheless, governor abbott in texas, representative boebert in colorado and the considerable weight o' conservative talking heads at fox is nevertheless tilting at the wind mills. proof trumpism is not gone. there is many in the gop who realize that once an issue is framed as an us v. them situation, there is no need to provide facts or reasonable arguments. get the trump base angry at democrats and the green new deal and then abbott will not need to defend lack of regulation o' energy producers in texas. perhaps worse, the pure mercenary motives o' fox has 'em whipping the trump base into a lather 'cause doing so increases viewership.

fox and politicians know they is lying to viewers and constituents. lie 'bout the pandemic. lie 'bout the 2020 election. lie 'bout wind turbines? is some boardies who is gonna wanna try and claim that 2021 is no different than the past decades o' political and media mendacity. am calling bs. such claims is just another lie.  the problem is we don't see a way out o' the mess we have created in this country where people don't care 'bout the truth near as much as they is concerned 'bout preventing the other side from being able to claim they were right... 'bout anything.

HA! Good Fun!

 

 

[Elerond]

Wind turbines seem to work fine here in -23 degrees of Celsius (-9.4 degrees Fahrenheit), also Gas, Coal and Nuclear plants work, so I would guess that Texas' problems are caused them saving in cold resistance of their infrastructure 

[Hiro Protagonist]

Some YouTube comments.

Texans are now learning that water can be a solid. Knowledge is powerful.

Republicans have always wanted America to return to the glory days of the 1800s. Congrats, objective achieved

Q: What did Texas use before candles? A: Electricity

 

 

[Azdeus]

3 hours ago, Elerond said:

Wind turbines seem to work fine here in -23 degrees of Celsius (-9.4 degrees Fahrenheit), also Gas, Coal and Nuclear plants work, so I would guess that Texas' problems are caused them saving in cold resistance of their infrastructure 

Same over here, the cold itself didn't shut down anything

Edit; It would lower production in windfarms though due to icing

Swedish article; https://www.smhi.se/nyhetsarkiv/isbelaggning-bromsar-vindkraft-1.168598?l=null

Edited February 18, 2021 by Azdeus

[Guard Dog]

At the risk of sounding cavalier about the troubles or harsh about the responses people really should understand that the systems you most rely on will fail the moment you most need them. It’s up to the individual to provide for their own needs when that happens. This is the same argument I use against gun control. You cannot count on the police to protect your family. In the moment of crisis the threat is there, the police are not. You cannot count on your utility provider to always have power for you. You cannot count on the grocery stores always being open. You have to prepare. Everyone should be able to survive in their homes alone for at least five days. With everything you need to make that work. And to be able to do that you need to prepare. It’s just common sense to me.

[Guard Dog]

Biden is uncomfortable being waited on by White House staff

have to agree with him on this one. I think I would rather get my own coffee and make my own sandwiches

[Darkpriest]

There is some merit to the fact, that you can't rely 100% on 'green' energy (the methods of production, getting resources, and longevity&waste of used elements put that green to a question mark) 

 

If you have a blizzard for 5-10 days with -20C then your solar panels, and largely wind turbines, and sweet water turbines are very inefficient in producing power vs consumption to maintain them somewhat operational. 

The best green energy we can hope for is a nucler fusion reactors, which then could be supported by solar and turbine based energy creators (to secure and diversify sources) 

In EU you had countries already buying energy and CO2 permissions from other countries, where electricty is mostly fossil fuel or nucleal based, just because the green energy production suffered during this winter. 

I can't say I'm surprised though, to see any crisis being used to bash each other and oversimplifing causes and exaggerating impact of these simplified causes. 

 

Note: there was a snowfall even on Sahara this winter. 

Edited February 18, 2021 by Darkpriest

[Gromnir]

5 hours ago, Guard Dog said:

At the risk of sounding cavalier 

"cavalier" is not the word we would use.

am waiting to see if @KaineParker suggests you need a punch in the face before we say more... though we will share a news story, just to give gd something to think 'bout in the interim.

Thousands of cars form lines to collect food in Texas

HA! Good Fun!

 

[PK htiw klaw eriF]

6 hours ago, Guard Dog said:

At the risk of sounding cavalier about the troubles or harsh about the responses people really should understand that the systems you most rely on will fail the moment you most need them.

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/539408-at-least-36-deaths-now-attributed-to-severe-winter-weather-in-texas-other

Not everyone has ability to get prepared for any disaster that may happen, and this goes beyond just monetary issues. I prepared well and came out alright (only about 36 hours without power), but a lot of people I know who prepared as best they could are looking at their living spaces needing extensive work before they can have running water or reliable heat. A bootstraps lecture in response to collapsing infrastructure seems like asking for an ass kicking.

[Malcador]

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/business/energy/article/Perry-says-Texans-wiling-to-suffer-blackouts-to-15956705.php

Conservatives in the US are really paranoid about "leftist" overreach. And again wind and solar are to blame here.

Edited February 18, 2021 by Malcador

[Gfted1]

Look at all the qq over Ted Cruz.