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Right, but in the abstract in the "Roleplay" vs "rollplay" argument, you can only play, role or roll, what the game gives you to play. So multiclassing may add options, but not multiclassing doesn't mean you can't role play, you just role play what the game gives you to play. Anyhow, P&P games are totally fudgeable anyhow.

It was pretty funny; I liked the same artist's What if All the NFL Logos were British work too.

Right, but my point is, that if the game is set up to have no multi-classing, why would anyone expect to play a wizard with martial training. It's like picking up a Mario game and complaining that it doesn't have CALL OF DUTY FPS gameplay or complaining that you can't have Mario romance blue alien ladies like Mass Effect. At some point you have to play the game based on what it gives you not what you might actually want. (And while PE is attempting flexibility, its not really multi-classing either).

Well I could be wrong and you could think you're just posting a normal, harmless 'opinion'. Possibly I'm misinterpreting it as a spiteful expression of entitlement. In that case I would need to apologize. But you followed that up by the obviously trollish 'Fanboi Polizei', so I don't think I'm mistaken. Welcome to my ignore list. Wow, way to overreact I know the word entitlement gets thrown around the internet all the time as some sort of "knockout argument", but really, PE backers are entitled to know what's going on, since they have funded the game. Also it's absolutely legitimate to want to have more updates and information and everything PE-related. Instead of always interpeting everything as "spiteful expression of entitlement" you could just see it as eager fandom. Mind you the first is taken care of with the Kickstarter news (which is reposted here and sent to your email if you want). The thing Monte Carlo is complaining about seems to be that members of the Obsidian Forums don't have MORE news than just the Kickstarter updates and that game news outlets gets information that we don't.

And if the role someone wishes to play is a Wizard with a small amount of martial training, you have just prevented them from playing the role they want to. And if the game is explicitly set up with no multi-classing, who in their right mind would expect to play a wizard with a small amount of martial training in the first place?

Okay, well that makes it slightly less random.

The problem is they have a short deadline. Anyone not insured by February is subject to fines taxes for not enrolling - whether the system was too crap to allow them to register or not.

Why does it defeat the purpose of classes? That is an extremly rigid interpretation of a simple RPG mechanism, in my opinion. Because it is a game. For a class system to work, there has to be some differential, meaning and choice to the classes. What is the purpose of multiclassing? If its to allow the player more flexibility in creating their PC then you're actually going against the point of having a class based system. The advantage of a class based system is to create certain predefined roles that a player can fill and have those roles come with inherent limitations and advantages. An argument for flexibility is an argument for a classless system. BTW, the suggestion of the engineer who becomes a fighter is really more in line with what D&D used to call dual classing as opposed to multiclassing. Multiclassing is when you advance as a fighter, mage and thief at the same time. Weirdly, I'd be more okay with a "dual classing" mechanic since I believe it doesn't violate (as much) the choices that should be part of a class based system than a multi class system but would prefer either a strict single class system or a classless, skill based system, to be honest.

You may well be right, but it's ass-backwards. Backers are treated like anybody else because there are folks who aren't backers. Huh? This should be the primary forum for... everything. On Facebook, for example, PE is just... tumbleweed. If the corollary of this is a site / content / forum for Backers, where the hell is it? I remain baffled by the strategy. Except there isn't one. Monte maybe if you were more supportive in our campaign to get chainmail bikini's and Romance in PE the backer site would be in place...just a thought ? I thought Monte was pro-chainmail bikini already...? Or are you suggesting he be pro romancing a chainmail bikini...?

Wait a minute, you can't do a limit on a boolean. Also 2032 is when 32-bit time_t runs out, so that was a concern as well. Shhhh...nobody knows that here. Also...the whole caveat of "sufficiently true" was already a problem. But never fear, I can assure you that 1 + 1 = 3 for sufficiently large versions of 1.

What's with the ebay link?

I don't think its trolling. I just don't agree. Its up to Obsidian to decide if there are merits in the expressed concerns or not.

Gutenberged To be fair, you know his name is Roger from the chapter title.

The crab-people ARE the illuminati!

And ironically, we also just found out that the Mayan Calendar was calculated by Uinal Katun who forgot to carry the 2 and thus the 2012 end of the world was meant to be 2032*. *this is factually correct as x approaches infinity for sufficiently true values of x

I think its a given that every post here is stored in a huge database. Also, I suspect Monte Carlo is now on their "watch list" now...

Puppet Master VI: Curse of the Puppet Master Not a good film; confused continuity, poor character development, and a rubbish end.

You work well with others and often fix problems quickly. Your romantic relationships are often bungled You are Geordi LaForge Geordi LaForge 65% Uhura 50% Chekov 45% Deanna Troi 45% Data 42% Leonard McCoy (Bones) 40% Beverly Crusher 40% Will Riker 40% Spock 35% Mr. Scott 35% Jean-Luc Picard 35% James T. Kirk (Captain) 30% Worf 30% An Expendable Character (Redshirt) 30% Mr. Sulu 15% Hmm, I imagine if I wore miniskirts and rated myself higher on singing My Uhura-ness would have topped my Geordi-ness. Also nice to know that I'd make a better Captain than expendable character.

Mine is that communication in general seems to have suffered/is improvable. A nice, loose and honest atmosphere can do wonders between fan-dev communication. You don't have to follow rules dictated by marketing. "honest"? Have Obs been dishonest or fostering dishonesty in their communication? Actually that's my hand. Sorry. You always were a handy fellow. Although why you put you hand there on poor Monte I'll never know... They could be working on the stuff they want to reveal to finalize it so they can show it to us sooner... Or they could secretly be trying to figure out how to admit they blew all the money on buying tracks of land on the moon... Or its possible no one's checked back on the thread since BAdler posted it... Or aliens kidnapped the entire Obsidan team and are preparing the ritual probings... Or the Backer Website was tested, became sentient, called itself "Skynet" and now Obsidian is spending all of their time fighting against the robot revolution...

We get updates all the time here and through Kickstarter. Josh posts here, in various threads too. Since I don't facebook I can't really say much about that area. What I'm saying is that I don't think its "wrong" that some information or screenshots find their way first to other areas because - the game still has to be hyped to potential buyers.

My general thought on multi-classing is that it defeats the purposes of classes and you'd be better served by a classless system if you want to be able to cherry pick skills/feats or similar.

Yes, that's really weird. Probably the weirdest thing in this whole situation. Sawyer makes so many "updates" via Formspring and he's active in quite a few forums, but not his own? (or at least the codex, for that matter?) Yes, Ropekid likes chewing the fat with lots of people. Mainly the ones not on this forum. But...I've only met Josh in person once! And it was a short joking thing and then I played the NWN 2 demo! It was totally innocent! Seriously, I assumed that they couldn't talk about it because it wasn't done and they simply didn't want to take the wind out of the sails by talking about something that wasn't ready to roll out to the backers (be it pictures, demos, poetry, whatever). And to be honest, as backers they don't have to sell it to us in the way that they might want to get people to support it on the backend who didn't kickstarter it, so I'm not surprised information and pictures come out in other places.

Varosha, San Zhi, Wonderland, and Cinncinatti's subway system seem ripe for filmic exploitation.

Yeah I thought AoS was good too, possibly the best episode so far since the first.

Mooter?