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Can you get me a great deal on a hotel?
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Hellz year, the 1965 Mustang deserves a thread all on its own. http://youtu.be/8Vf-PuFOnFY
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Its a world with magic and dragons, so I wouldnt take it too seriously as pushing an athiest agenda.
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Welcome back LC. May I kindly suggest you avoid the journalism and sexism thread.
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This thread is so ridiculously reactionary.
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They were both equally sophomoric.
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Games on portable platforms discussion thread
Hurlshort replied to sorophx's topic in Computer and Console
I pretty much stick to puzzle games on my phone and tablet. There is the odd strategy game that plays well, like Out There or Star Command, but I prefer simple games. Jetpack Joyride is my guilty pleasure.- 40 replies
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I am pretty sure the rest of the normal world is over this. The guy wore a questionable shirt, the guy apologized, end of the story.
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Does anyone else notice the dramatic shift in syntax between these two examples of oby posts?
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Today I found a laserdisc player remote. It was gigantic.
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Shallow, there is a very clear criteria that the government and the IRS have put forth in order to qualify as a church. Beliefs and ideology have nothing to do with those criteria. Here is a quick and dirty explanation of what makes a church: https://www.legalzoom.com/articles/what-constitutes-a-church-under-federal-laws Churches rely on donations, I don't know how you can compare them to a gym membership. My wife and I had a small vow renewel ceremony in front of a priest last year and they charged us zero dollars. They can charge for events to cover costs, but again they are still non-profit organizations. As a whole, non-profits, religious or not, get quite a few tax breaks and exemptions.
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I completely disagree, I will always argue for religious organizations to be considered a separate entity under the eyes of the law. Religious tolerance is is an immensely important part of our foundation and culture.
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You are free to be a discriminating jerk. You are free to join a church full of other discriminating jerks and talk about why your discrimination is good. You are not free to open a public business and discriminate between customers. I don't see why that is confusing. Some people make this out to be a government versus business issue. It is not. It is a consumer versus business issue. The consumers are the ones filing complaints and taking this to the courts. Do you want to courts to ignore the rights of the consumers to suit the whims of the business owners?
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Because they look awesome? Seriously, I miss my gas fireplace so much, it was super relaxing to sit in front of the fake fire.
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I believe there are ways around this as a business, by the way. If your religious convictions are so strong, then turn your bakery into a non-profit religious organization and restrict your business to local churches. Every state has different ways of handling this, but it is very possible, for the same reasons a Catholic Church can turn away any non-Catholics from getting married. Religious organizations have separate protections under Federal and State law. It might not be the best business plan, but don't expect to run a public for profit business on commercial property and get a choice of who you do business with.
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How is that not saying we don't serve your kind here? They are asking for the same cake that any straight couple can get from the bakery. The crazy thing is part of the evidence used against him in the court case showed that he took an order to make a cake for a wedding between two dogs. The jail time is also a bit sketchy. He is saying he would rather go to jail. The courts are saying he needs to serve cakes to everyone and educate his staff, and document who he refuses service to. Now if he continues to discriminate and run his business, he could face fines and a very unlikely jail sentence. It's more likely he will be fined and lose his business license, but that will depend on the judge. It's actually more reasonable than the Oregon baker, who got hit with a bunch of legal fees over $100k.
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As an aside, as someone who is trying to start a business, the anti-discrimination laws are the least of my worries when it comes to dealing with government entities. The taxes and licensing fees are way more problematic.
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Owning a business does not give you carte blanche to do whatever you want. You have Federal, State, County, and City restrictions to follow in order to keep your license. That may not make you and Vall happy, but that is reality.
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These are businesses, not individuals. As an individual you can be as bigoted as you want. You can keep people off your personal property for whatever reasons you want. Businesses do not have the same rights. Why should they?
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I do want to bring up another point about running a business. You can appeal to a certain audience. You can limit your inventory, or only offer to do certain types of cakes. This woman in Oregon shot herself in the foot because she made it very clear that she was refusing to do business with this couple because they were gay. She has to offer them the same service she does any other customer, and she refused to do that. That is open discrimination. You can feel free to discriminate in the services you offer, but when you pick and choose your customers based on race, gender, or anything else, you are putting yourself in a bad position.
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Heh, I know GD well enough to know that scenario is not going to win him over. That's why I used a bar in my hypothetical scenario!
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Courts protecting the rights of minorities against the tyranny of the majority is an extremely important function. It is nice that society has been slowly shifting towards tolerance, but it shouldn't be the only way minorities gain more rights. What is the non-religious justification for denying gay couples the right to marry? I do agree that the best case would be the government getting out of the marriage business. But that is simply not realistic, there isn't enough support for such a movement.
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When you run a business, you are subject to non-discrimination laws. Religious organizations can get around this, but I fail to see how a for profit business deserves a free pass here. Would it be fair for your local bar to only serve white people?
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We should really just treat reviews like trade magazines do. Reviews tell us if the product is functional, how it runs, what components it has, and the rest is subjective opinion.