Gorgon

What do you want, a lollypop, I know what the declaration of indepencence is. I just couldn't remember the where the phrase originated from, American history was 4 years ago, my memory is not perfect.. 'We hold these truths to be self evident' is somewhat close. Is that the best you have, salivating repetatively over a simple mistake ?

All that running around is dangerous. Especially if yer not built for it, like me. I have a tendency to twist my right foot and trip as I run, those special inlays didn't really solve the problem.

yeah yeah don't you think you have milked that enough already

It was a deralment kinda thing.

ehh ? http://www.law.indiana.edu/uslawdocs/declaration.html I like this one even better 'We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal,'

Of course liberty is at odds with slavery, they were not sufficently dense to deny the obvious even then, however the conclusion of those ideals of freedom, and they were intended in word and spirit to be universal - in many senses the inspiration for the French revolution - could not be drawn because political and economical necessity demanded slavery. The declaration of indepencence goes, 'we the people...' the people. The suggestion that neither blacks or women for that matter are people is a logical falacy. That is all, I have not argued that slavery is this or that as you have suggested. So, when you look back on that piece of paper remember that the words are infinitely less important than the hard won victories that have come since. Than the historical determination of the supreme court to fulfill the promise.

That is how most Americans feel about it, and indeed should the law of the land not reflect the majority. That doesen't mean that you can't all be wrong though

that doesn't make sense at all. personal liberty and slavery are not irreconcilable. the rights provided by the constitution cannot infringe upon inalienable rights, of which life and freedom stand highest, and the "right" to slavery would most definitely infringe upon another's freedom. taks There was no inalienable right unless you were part of the elite when the consititution was written. And liberty and slavery are quite obviously opposites. Liberty and freedom from opression were the the same ideas as those embodies in the french revolution, only the 'citizens' were merely the ruling elite, not the breath of society. They barely even qualified as the bourgeois class that characterise the end of feudalism seeing how such a large percentage of them lived like supreme lords on their plantations. Until you take those ideals to their ultimate conclusion, an egalitarian democracy, they remain unfulfilled and self contradictory, which is why I put the watermark some time around the end of the civil rights movement.

One might even say that all the high browed talk of freedom and liberty doesen't mean a damn thing before about the end of the civili rights movement. The constitution had to be a comprimise between two concepts that are in reality completely unreconcilable ; the notion of liberty, personal and social, and slavery. It illustrates the point about human rights rather well though, liberty used to apply exclusively to male white landowners and has slowly been extended to cover everyone. The story of the American constitution and civil liberty is one that starts in hypocricy and ends in the logical conclusion. Still subject to degenerate though.

Nothing wrong with relying on hundred year old values as long as they are good values. The US constitution ,howerver, among other things guarantees a slave owner one vote mandate per 1/3 slave he owns which makes all the other high browed talk of freedom and rights hypocritical in context.

That has to be the worst straw man I have seen in ages. Incidentially, I heard John Howard, the Australian PM, comment that he was determined that Australian gun culture should never become the negative that it has become in the US. I believe he is conservative. He's also anti death penalty. That is not so strange, all modern democracies with the exception of the US and Japan are against the death penalty, and Japan probably has it because McArthur wanted it that way.

Neil Armstrong (amongst others) believed that humans have a finite number of heart beats. Get healthy and make them last longer, or clock out early with an express cardiac arrest. Acually all mamals, from elephants to sea turtles that live 200 years, have the approximately the same finite numer of heatbeats. I suppose it is true that a fit person has a lower resting pulse than an out of shape person. but things like diabetes and obesity and lifestyle choices like smoking pose a far greater rist for a slob like me. On the other hand, who wants to live to be old enough waste away in a nursing home with nothing to look forward to but dementia and incontinence.

Exercise feels too much like work to me, and I don't work unless i'm paid for it.

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That has to be the worst straw man I have seen in ages. Incidentially, I heard John Howard, the Australian PM, comment that he was determined that Australian gun culture should never become the negative that it has become in the US. I believe he is conservative.

Of course he must have realised that there was no way out for him now, and decided he would inflict as much pain as he would while he was able.

I am Jack's bladder

I hardly think it's appropriate to make this guy into a superstar, we should learn what we can from his situation not start selling coffe mugs with his demented face on it.

If by tightest gun laws you mean quite lax gun laws then, yes. Incidentially I agree that waiting periods don't really do much.

I believe they said there is no waitning period in Georgia. Pass the background check and you take the gun home right then and there.

How do you find these people anyway. Give anyone a questionare ?

I've only been to a strip joint once.. and I really isn't that fun to begin with.. All strip joints in Copenhagen are sleazy and kinda sad, I don't know what it's like elsewhere. I've been at a couple of bachelor parties with strippers though, quite enjoyable.

Missus looking over your shoulder ?

Get 10 women and a male stripper in the same room and they go insane. As for the legislation, I thought the universal rule was 'no touching'

A bit of black comedy and proof that people & the media are too quick to point fingers when the perpetrator isn't white: http://wanusmaximus.livejournal.com/ what is that web site, I don't understand whats going on.