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Nothing wrong with relying on hundred year old values as long as they are good values. The US constitution ,howerver, among other things guarantees a slave owner one vote mandate per 1/3 slave he owns which makes all the other high browed talk of freedom and rights hypocritical in context.

That has to be the worst straw man I have seen in ages. Incidentially, I heard John Howard, the Australian PM, comment that he was determined that Australian gun culture should never become the negative that it has become in the US. I believe he is conservative. He's also anti death penalty. That is not so strange, all modern democracies with the exception of the US and Japan are against the death penalty, and Japan probably has it because McArthur wanted it that way.

Neil Armstrong (amongst others) believed that humans have a finite number of heart beats. Get healthy and make them last longer, or clock out early with an express cardiac arrest. Acually all mamals, from elephants to sea turtles that live 200 years, have the approximately the same finite numer of heatbeats. I suppose it is true that a fit person has a lower resting pulse than an out of shape person. but things like diabetes and obesity and lifestyle choices like smoking pose a far greater rist for a slob like me. On the other hand, who wants to live to be old enough waste away in a nursing home with nothing to look forward to but dementia and incontinence.

Exercise feels too much like work to me, and I don't work unless i'm paid for it.

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That has to be the worst straw man I have seen in ages. Incidentially, I heard John Howard, the Australian PM, comment that he was determined that Australian gun culture should never become the negative that it has become in the US. I believe he is conservative.

Of course he must have realised that there was no way out for him now, and decided he would inflict as much pain as he would while he was able.

I am Jack's bladder

I hardly think it's appropriate to make this guy into a superstar, we should learn what we can from his situation not start selling coffe mugs with his demented face on it.

If by tightest gun laws you mean quite lax gun laws then, yes. Incidentially I agree that waiting periods don't really do much.

I believe they said there is no waitning period in Georgia. Pass the background check and you take the gun home right then and there.

How do you find these people anyway. Give anyone a questionare ?

I've only been to a strip joint once.. and I really isn't that fun to begin with.. All strip joints in Copenhagen are sleazy and kinda sad, I don't know what it's like elsewhere. I've been at a couple of bachelor parties with strippers though, quite enjoyable.

Missus looking over your shoulder ?

Get 10 women and a male stripper in the same room and they go insane. As for the legislation, I thought the universal rule was 'no touching'

A bit of black comedy and proof that people & the media are too quick to point fingers when the perpetrator isn't white: http://wanusmaximus.livejournal.com/ what is that web site, I don't understand whats going on.

No, he was South Korean. And if you want to ban guns, why not ban fertilizer and bleach so IED's can't be made in car bombs? It's worse than any gun. Ever considered maybe finding some more healthy hobbies in light of whats happened ?

I can't quote any studies on the subject but it seems to me that most of the individuals engaged in these acts in teh past have given many years notice that they were as barmy as a box of balm. If your objective is to stop gun-armed loons then irrespective of the general laws on firearms would it not be sensible to have some cross-checking against a well-prepared database of crackpots? Woud it not also be a wise plan to go further and to ensure better provision of better quality _borderline_ nut-care? Indeed, but what are you going to do practically ?. The only thing that would stop a potential nut case is incarceration. Psychology teaches us that certain people are a greater risk factor than others, but we can't jail people for what we think they might do, correct me if i'm wrong, gun laws in the US already prohibit you from owning a gun if you have a diagnosed serious mental disorder. If society is completely saturated with firearms it makes it that much easier for anyone to get one. If I wanted a pistol I would know who to ask, but it's doubtful that he would be able to come through, and even then the cost would be astronomical. He didn't bring the gun with him on the plane from China though.

All other things being equal, if a violent psychopat lacks lethal weaponry he isen't going to kill 30 people. Premeditaition and planning doesen't make any difference to the issue at hand, like I said, they don't sell dynamite or ammonium nitrate to just anyone for a reason. You can't be the thought police and try to get into the head of every budding psychopath, it's a ludicrous proposition, and merely turning the issue aside with the age old clishe 'guns don't kill people', it just seems so incredibly inadequate.

I think there was a proposal for legislation like that in Germany, don't think anything came of it though.

I can't believe you would group video games and movie censurship with gun control, the first is patently stupid and doomed to fail, the second is a real world countermeasure against exactly this kind of violent crazy.

Would he now.... You can't buy dynamite or even amonium nitrate fertilizer in a store unless you have a valid use for them.

Maybe the memory of those killed deserve that we ask hard questions rather than tiptoe around. Anyway, i'm not running for office, it seems like common sense to me that not just anyone with a clean record is psychologically equipped to be allowed to own guns.

Care to enligthen us as to why your personal palate is against discussing whether it's smart to allow Joe Public access to guns. It looks deceptively like thats exactly what you are doing. The facts are, a man went on a rampage, with a gun, and killed a bunch of people. whatever follows isen't going to change that. If a psycho decides to go on a killing spree I would be mightily impressed if he managed to kill 23 people with a fork.

Language is full of nonsensical creations, and things that used to mean one thing but have alternate meanings, although I see your point. I never really considered what the 'propper' meaning was, just the sense that a one off doesen't mean that whatever, happens regularly.