Mamoulian War

the only article about sales numbers that i found are from April 2007... http://www.simexchange.com/blogpost.php?post_id=277 at that time NWN2 surpased 1 million units and NWN1+NWN1 expansions+NWN2 sold over 3 millions in total... so after few month of the game out, the sales ratio of 1:2 (NWN2 alone versus NWN1 + all expansions) was not to bad...

I would happily provide my oppinion, but i do not own the game, and i never played it, now hush >

My friend who owns the game, has completely different oppinion about it, he played it for two days and never touched again, and the biggest issue he mentioned, was the health regeneration...

No, It is just your opinnion...

Man, you are talking about Activision here...

in this case, i was more talking generally...

if you are interested mostly into Multiplayer aspect and are planning to get PC version, i recommend you to read this before you fork out the money http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2009/11...you-thought.ars

And you are able to present evidence that this in fact the case w/ EA at the moment? And you are able to present evidence that this in fact NOT the case w/ EA at the moment?

studios can be bad aswell, when the man in the charge has no clue what he is doing... the men at charge in these studios were EA executives...

that's exactly what i had in my mind... thanks...

yes that is finaly a thing we can both agree upon the only problem with such a DRM scheme is the need for online activations, i just simply can't get over the thought, that if someone pulls the plug off, i can lose all the stuff for which i payed a lot of money

it's called sarcasm... but yes, it's all my fault, just to be sure, the next time i will post something like that, i will make <sarcasm> and </sarcasm> tag so even the less perceptive readers will take a notice of it...

If they purchase it on loan, they have to pay the money back and it is substracted from your income... i do not know how it is correctly calculated aswell so i rather shut up but seeing in same day, that company spends 300 millions and cuts off 1500 employees is very rare sight even in "high" bussiness... to be honest up to this day i have never seen such an announcement from any other companies...

I don't know where people are getting the idea of profit from. Also from GamaSutra. "EA Announces Increased Net Loss, Confirms 1,500 Layoffs" Electronic Arts saw a decline in GAAP revenue, but they did post a record high for non-GAAP revenue (which it seems most people latched onto here, assuming that EA was rolling around in profits). Maybe if they did not buy a company here for 800 millions and company there for 300 millions they would not be now in net loss

i dont think america really has unions in the same capacity or power as europe does. I don't know what unions are like in Europe (or in America for that matter) but we do have them though they aren't prevalent in every industry, which from what I hear is a good thing. Unions had a purpose at one time and there's still a few places where they can be used but for the most part they (unjustly) inflate salary, benefits, etc exponentially increasing the cost of labor for companies. This was one of the bigger issues with Ford. Yeah Ford sucks either way but its pretty tough to compete when your paying out labor costs that are higher than your competitors. Oh noes, what an outrageous idea, to actualy pay employees the money they deserve... and giving them benefits... 2 dollars a hour and 80 hours a week should be enough rewards, no other benefits needed...

now cry me a river please

Have you ever though, that with more and more people getting layed off left and right, there will be soon very few people who will still be able to afford any nonessential things? What then? Making even more layoffs? Basic Action - Reaction thing is in play... The more unemployed people in a country, the lower chance to actualy sell your product, unless you are food, alcohol or condom maker... But yes, that would be Longterm Thinking... and that does not fit into this fiscal year's bottom line, presented to shareholders, so why they would care...

there are many companies with much much different culture than EA, they rather sacrifice some profits, than ruining lives of some of their employees, or they rather sack 1.5 exec with million per month salary than to sack 1000 people with 1500 per month salary... people love to work for these companies, nothing saves as much money as stable and satisfied working crew, which does not search all day for new job... most of these companies are not publicly traded companies though... Name one company that would rather sack an exec than a few hundred regular employees. Sure some companies are more ruthless when it comes to being cost-effective, but believe me none that are the size of EA have the luxury of being humane, at least not without a goverment bailout. Naturally smaller firms are a completely different matter, but at the large scale when 1500 is around 10% of the workforce even bigger lay outs are not unheard of. If the company is struggling with profits, it's more of a fail of the executive than the common workforce... i would say it would be logical step to kick them out 1st...

there are many companies with much much different culture than EA, they rather sacrifice some profits, than ruining lives of some of their employees, or they rather sack 1.5 exec with million per month salary than to sack 1000 people with 1500 per month salary... people love to work for these companies, nothing saves as much money as stable and satisfied working crew, which does not search all day for new job... most of these companies are not publicly traded companies though...

The game comes with a disk check. You're free to omit purchasing DLC if you have concerns about it's future accessibility. Though The Stone Prisoner is free if you buy the game new. i know that, but as i said, it was 3 reasons why i did not preordered this game, with all the experience with EA games released last year, it is very logical decision to wait for the confirmation of the DRM included... at least for people who are concerned about mandatory online activations...

because i had interest in buying it... and was getting more info about the game before i made a purchase... and now i am happy that i did some research, because it saved me 60 bucks

i wonder if you had the same words about it if you got the boot from your job... kicking out 1500 people and then purchasing something for 300 millions... says a lot about the culture of the company...

I am wondering how long until they remove the authentification from them and the DLCs become unplayable

for you it might be effective marketing, for me it is dealbreaking issue... there is reason why i never watch TV stations, which do have commercials in middle of movies... they do break the immersion for me as much as stuff for real money NPCs in computer games... But yes it is effective marketing in a way... it effectively saved me 60 EUR It must be hard for you to find interesting things in life if one little annoyance can deprive you of the entire game experience, such an extreme reaction. I am enjoying my life a lot, because, i do not need to purchase everything shoved down my throat, i have a lot of other things to do. Even in gaming there is so much to purchase, that i do not care if i will miss a game or two i'd like to purchase, i have made a lot of principles during my life and i stand fully behind them, one game will not change that... As Alan mantioned, the NPCs are not only things that did convince me not to buy the game, I was thinking a lot about buying it, but 3 things had put me into dont buy at release date 1) it's EA game 2) marketing campaing 3) the possibility of draconian DRM The built in game advertisement (or however you wanna calll it), is just the final info on the game, which convinced me that i have made right decision of not buying it... And i am not regret this decision at all. My wallet has voted.

same for me... i purchased all expansion packs for all games that i own and have released it... the difference between DLC and Exp pack is in most cases very big... you usualy get more fun for same money from exp packs for you it might be effective marketing, for me it is dealbreaking issue... there is reason why i never watch TV stations, which do have commercials in middle of movies... they do break the immersion for me as much as stuff for real money NPCs in computer games... But yes it is effective marketing in a way... it effectively saved me 60 EUR