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God needs a new publicist, if you ask me.

I thought they already had. edit: guess not yet! http://www.lego.com/eng/info/?page=pressde...ountrycode=2057 But they will.

Well, not an entire one.

I see quite a few people on that forum that recognize they do have meanings. Pre-reqs, carrying capacity, holding breath. At the very least, I don't see any of them claim its arbitrary. I don't have any references available to me, but I've seen charts that did it for strenght. Heck, strength is probably the easiest to see for me because I can just set up someone's strength to see carrying capacity in NWN2. So, at least strength readily shows its meaning through carrying capacity as that is far from an arbitrary ability and can be directly compared to real world strength.

An orphan.

Can you get me his autograph? I need his and Biny's.

Yes.

I cam under the impression that the Illuminati wanted to steal the Denton's technology so they could use it. IE, merge one of the Illuminati leaders with an AI. The Illuminati ending confirmed this for me because you see a physical person when they mention "Ophelia." Hence why I presumed it was Nicollete and not simply an AI by itself.

No, he's my nephew. I thought I mentioned this.

Also just in! Bioshock uses Vert- for Widescreen! http://www.widescreengamingforum.com/forum...asc&start=0 http://forums.2kgames.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4883 If you don't know what that means, check those two links. Pretty easy to figure out and why we dislike it. If you're a widescreen user, please post in the second link about how you'd like them to resolve it in a future patch. Please be civil. Edit: Apparently the 2K devs have responded that they're looking into it. Awesome. I'll update if I hear more!

HAHAHA! Oh wow! People who buy the PC version can't activate it until seemingly 4 pm EST. Steam or not.

I enjoy Roosterteeth's (back before they were "Roosterteeth) Mac Gamer parody. It used to be that when I'd go to the store there'd be games all over. But now I don't have that problem because with a Mac there's just 5 and you know which ones are good because you played them all 5 or 6 years ago on the PC! Hi, my name is Gus Sirolla and I'm a gamer... well, I used to be.

It's awkward because you're getting worried about a 9.0! You're reading way too much into it. WAAAAAY

That's an awkward claim. The "Oblivion craze" actually required people to play it for it to seem that way. It's one thing to be skeptical, it's another thing to start making comparisons. It's a bloody 9.0 rating! What's worrying about that?

That is depth! Just like the real world, the depth of all people is dependent upon their incessant need for relationships as defined by sex. I mean, c'mon! When was the last time you hung out with a group of 4 or more people without every girl under 50 throwing themself desperately at you based of a couple of shallow responses to menial questions before the month was over? Why just this past Saturday I met this one girl. I walked up to her and said "women are neat" and the next thing you know we're getting indecency citations! Which automatically means we're going to have a long fulfilling relationship. Her career as a high paid lawyer is already on hold while we plan a family.

They'd better be quicker with the Wild Mage this time. And it better still be wacky with a chance of killing the entire party accidentally while doing mundane tasks. Or I'll have lost what little interest I had in starting D&D in the first place.

The solutions sounds like ignoring the D&D guidelines for CRs at 1-3. Or skipping your characters a few levels. I don't think it's a good solution to completely get rid of the newbie adventurer experience altogether.

Will do! I know what I'm having for lunch tomorrow!

Played through the demo over Steam. Excellent! Wait a second... Andrew Ryan? THAT'S MY NEPHEW'S NAME!

I came under the impression that Ophelia was Nicollete. Seemed kind of sudden, but not without some clues.

Why should I mention Ico? You actually were using Ico against your own argument. You know barely anything about Mass Effect to judget its artistic merits. It's a whole moot point. Which has nothing to do with movies or other mediums. Games allow for other messages to seep in too. So, the requirement of technology somehow takes away from a message in narrative or presentation? I guess any movie with sound not shot on black and white is only catering "towards a certain standard." My counter is just as nonsensical as this supposed point. Movies cost around the same as as games to produce. And big-budget films are even more derivative than big-budget games. You were using it as an argument for why it is art in a way of excluding games. Because games don't have a "message." It's a pretentious argument. I wasn't specifically talking about you. However, your entire argument consists of shallow games lack artistry because of an inane consideration of technology. It seems like it's little more than to justify keeping fine arts on a pedestal. An argument seen in this thread a few times before yours, only differing in the content, but not the lack of genuine support. Same references to shallow games and supposed messages of "deeper" art.

What was the message of the Mona Lisa? Or is that not art, Zero? If you've played a game that intended to be more than SHOOTAN GAME, then you've probably experienced a game with a message. If you want to look only at games like Gears of War, Grand Theft Auto, and Dead Rising, of course you're going to end up having a difficult time finding anything in there that's more than about action. You're playing a bleeding action game, good luck finding a deeper message in Die Hard. And heck, the black square itself isn't a message about the cross. It was the event of placing it that had the message. If I throw up a quarter onto the steeple of a roof and ask people to worship it, the art of what I'm doing isn't kept in the quarter when I bring it back down. I don't know what's worse, shallow gamers or pretentious artists.