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Played through the demo over Steam. Excellent! Wait a second... Andrew Ryan? THAT'S MY NEPHEW'S NAME!

I came under the impression that Ophelia was Nicollete. Seemed kind of sudden, but not without some clues.

Why should I mention Ico? You actually were using Ico against your own argument. You know barely anything about Mass Effect to judget its artistic merits. It's a whole moot point. Which has nothing to do with movies or other mediums. Games allow for other messages to seep in too. So, the requirement of technology somehow takes away from a message in narrative or presentation? I guess any movie with sound not shot on black and white is only catering "towards a certain standard." My counter is just as nonsensical as this supposed point. Movies cost around the same as as games to produce. And big-budget films are even more derivative than big-budget games. You were using it as an argument for why it is art in a way of excluding games. Because games don't have a "message." It's a pretentious argument. I wasn't specifically talking about you. However, your entire argument consists of shallow games lack artistry because of an inane consideration of technology. It seems like it's little more than to justify keeping fine arts on a pedestal. An argument seen in this thread a few times before yours, only differing in the content, but not the lack of genuine support. Same references to shallow games and supposed messages of "deeper" art.

What was the message of the Mona Lisa? Or is that not art, Zero? If you've played a game that intended to be more than SHOOTAN GAME, then you've probably experienced a game with a message. If you want to look only at games like Gears of War, Grand Theft Auto, and Dead Rising, of course you're going to end up having a difficult time finding anything in there that's more than about action. You're playing a bleeding action game, good luck finding a deeper message in Die Hard. And heck, the black square itself isn't a message about the cross. It was the event of placing it that had the message. If I throw up a quarter onto the steeple of a roof and ask people to worship it, the art of what I'm doing isn't kept in the quarter when I bring it back down. I don't know what's worse, shallow gamers or pretentious artists.

I thought the ammo scheme was good. I could just pick the weapon I wanted and didn't have to worry about if the next guy would drop any of what I needed or not.

OH NO! Bioshock got a 9/10 from Gamespot! XBox360 is doooooomed!

Don't need them anyway. But you might see some performance gain.

Oh, screw you nVidia. The control panel isn't working again.

nVidia beta drivers ati hotfix

It's the same thing as horse racing and craps "culture." People just looking for an excuse to gamble. I imagine there's some interest in it as a sport, but I doubt it's much.

I see what you did there.

I recently replayed it, have played through the original as well, loved it and got none of this feeling you're saying. How do the endings seem rushed? I thought they all seemed relatively better than those in the original Deus Ex.

With the source code, planning materials, and full time employees? Not nearly as long as its taken Gizka. Rough uneducated guess to be about 1/3rd of the time.

I keep hoping I'll see a mac parody ad where the PC guy is wearing a laser tag set, then a bunch of PC guys with laser tag sets show up and run around shooting each other. They invite the Mac guy who ends up having difficulty with the vest and gun, shoots himself with it, gets frustrated, tosses it all on the floor in a fit then complains they must have built it wrong and how its stupid and "he didn't really want to play anyway." He runs off to go play Zork instead.

Tale casts Gate, summons a Balor, and is promptly devoured.

Maybe they should have deported the son, too. Would that have made her happy?

Innocent until proven guilty, n'est-ce pas?

So wait, Sand hates Bush? This is news, indeed!

Why does Sand hate freedom? :'(

Columbian, medium dark, non-dairy creamer, Splenda

Romance is never worthwhile. Do you really think it's appropriate for a Jedi Master or Sith Lord to end up settling down early because he has to care for unplanned children? I don't!

I don't know how Sammael can say the current (pre-4th edition) stat system is meaningless and arbitrary. Check out any of the JRPGs. Those have meaningless and arbitrary stat systems. When a character's stats are 100x higher than they previously were, they're doing 1000x the damage, and the character is supposedly only slightly stronger than he was before, then it's arbitrary. The D&D stat system appears incredibly meaningful. And I'm not saying that simply by comparison. I love Prestige Classes. I just think they're abused. Maybe they were introduced poorly. Maybe enough emphasis was not put out that these are not meant for everyone. But, it's probably largely the schism between people who want to roleplay and those who are just gathering to kill imaginary things. One doesn't see how he can join some order of wizards he's never met before, the other just sees that he gets a nice new ability that lets him kill even more goblins.

I'm not sure anyone can use an image from Haruhi and say that's a bad thing.

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