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I've always wanted to see a story where dragons are given their due. Gigantic behemoths with so much weight they can barely move. I think we've explored vicious dragons enough. I want dragons that are basically gigantic scaled cows. A little more dangerous than a charging elephant.

Avellone spoke, I think it was recently, about being disappointed with the writing for Gann because his class choice didn't really factor into his character. So I should hope not. If the character is tied in a fundamental way with their class, changing that class might be a little too strange.

Let's not derail this into a Dragon Age thread, please.

Thank you for this. The mind-mapping software, FreeMind, looks pretty dang nifty.

I'm trying very hard to separate "things I like in a plot" from "things that plots I hate did not have." I'm sure there's a lot of overlap, but it can be deceptive. I like a plot make sense. I like characters to have understandable, even if not relateable, motives. I want there to be choices that I want to take. I want the outcome of those choices to be connected to why I took them. I like characters to develop. I would like antagonists to have their development as well as the protagonists. It's not necessary, but it's nice to have. And this development needs to be understandable. I want thematic consistency. I want the plot teach me things and expose me to ideas, then reinforce or smoothly develop those ideas as the narrative continues. I am essentially asking that the events of the plot be a culmination of what comes before it. Which sounds probably simpler than it really is. I want to see the foundation for victory laid out in the beginnings. I want to witness how and why the characters change over the course of time, I don't want that to be background information. I want all the little victories to contribute to the greater victories. I want the character development to contribute to the challenges and victories along the way.

It's kind of funny that there's probably going to be more dungeon levels than character levels in the game.

Either or. I've got Walking Dead, the Blackwell series, the Still Life series, and Syberia in my backlog. Among much more.

Hey, your guess is as good as mine.

I'm in one of those moods where nothing is good after playing Mask of the Betrayer. Tried Max Payne out for a couple hours and I'm getting a little bored. Tried Divinity Divinity out for a couple minutes before getting bored. TPS down. RPG down. Maybe I should give adventure games a shot. I like adventure games.

Information on that has not been revealed yet. Hopefully soon-ish.

I want to believe. Good luck.

What's wrong with a few elements ignoring the desires of a few people completely? You can't make everyone happy. For me, there are several elements of the proposed design that ignore my interests. But there are other elements that make it up in the balance. I should hope exclusion of romances aren't the tipping point for too many people.

That's an argument of 'what I like/want is more important than what they want' type of argument... and is, basically, a selfish type of claim. What you want is perfectly valid... but so is someone who wants a well-written(and I stress that, people... and have in every post I've made tyvm) interaction with companions that can include romance and rivalry. We are trusting the writers to know their characters well enough to be able to write a good story, be that with or without rivalry and romance. That people would like to have that option does not make it inherently wrong, or that they want to dumb down any other part of the game, either. Because we're not doing VO, motion-capture, movie-esque cut scenes but depending on the simple writing... it isn't NEARLY as much 'taking time from what *I* want' as people seem to think it will be, either. No, that's an argument of preference. He would simply prefer the effort expended elsewhere. I don't see his statement making a claim to the validity of your opinion. A number of people do prefer to see the required resources, whether you perceive them to be great or small, allocated to the aspects they desire. Yes, that is selfish. But so what? Requesting resource allocation in self-interest is a-okay. You do it, I do it, we all do it.

A bit of good natured sarcasm can be fun, but I don't think we need a thread dedicated solely to it.

I totally agree. Also, why mention BG, NWN, PS:T, etc if you're not going to make a game in a fantasy setting ? Forgotten Realms had similar guns.

Lake of Drowned Tombs is cut off on the map to look like Lake of Drow Tombs.

Again, let us avoid the meta commentary. The number one cause of derails on these threads is people who feel compelled to discuss each other, whether directly or indirectly.

Settle down, everyone. Don't get personal.

Let's stick to the discussion of romances. Moving on to a meta-discussion of "who is to blame for romance threads being so bad" is just going to feed hostility as people start pointing fingers at one another.

I support putting exits on every floor. Doubly so if they're going with the model of giving the dungeon advancement across levels. If the design is intended so that players tackle a level, leave to do other stuff, then tackle the next level at a higher character level, making the exit time consuming is tedious nonsense. The player will instead wait until he's a high level and just breeze past most of the dungeon. A completely wasted design. If they make it so that it's best to complete it all in one sitting, then they're going to have to populate it with encounters aimed at a very limited level range. 2 at most, 3 would probably be pushing it. Fighting most of the same monsters for 13 levels doesn't sound any fun either.

There's nothing insignificant about that grievance. That potential grievance stands as a central theme of Dragon Age 2. The entire plot rides on fiat. The character's point of view is my point of view. And I saw nothing to risk in fulfilling the only objective remaining at that time.

I don't see this thread going anywhere good.

Avellone appears to be having enough fun for everyone.

I just did something silly. I paid $20 for a flashlight mod and 8 new levels. I bought Doom 3 BFG edition. So I think I'll be playing that now. Edit: Even sillier, I did not check system requirements. No XP support.

Hopefully they don't lose too much to bad pledges.