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What's Edér smoking?
Wormerine replied to Nail's topic in Pillars of Eternity II: Deadfire General Discussion (NO SPOILERS)
That pushed me to thought that I never had before - Pallegina should have feathers not only on head, right? Hylea heritage and so on... Well, Hiravias speculated even further... -
With multiple in-house projects I would expect the art team will move to another project, or expansio once their work on the base game is done. Overall I like the idea, but keep in mind that in order to flesh out characters they would need to make 11 seperate versions of the same adventures. If they were to truly expand on characters they would need to modifiey vignettes for each companion, describing their unique approach to the situation. At this point it becomes kinda insane. Unless, you want them to create adventures for specific companions only. hopefully, with crew management system there will be things you will be able to assign to your companions. At the very least Eder can mop the floor while you are out.
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I always liked an idea of joinable companions, who wouldn't be your property and would have their own lives. However, that would go against the function Obsidian wants sidekicks to fulfill. They want you to have a variety of classes to choose from, and they wanted them to be interesting, interactable characters (I for one never used custom made adventurers.) However, they wanted to deepen companions as well, which made it problematic as it meant more work per companions. As they didn't want to leave people with only 7 people to choose from, they looked at how unevenly BG2 companions were designed and decided to both have cake and eat it. So you have 7 fully developed companions and 4 sidekicks for variety.
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I can’t properly reply as your post is barely readable. Please, change the font colour. I don’t think stronghold adventure will be a thing this time around. They were patched them later to the game to make it more interactable. In case of are not up to speed there is no stronghold in Deadfire. Instead, you will have your ship which will serve as a base of operations and your primary way of moving around the world. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YzXD0apipV0 There will be some crew management system as well as ship combat via scripted interactions (showcased in the video). Sending your companions out alone would made little sense.
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I personally like when expansions expand the base game rather than adding new, short campaign. It does need to be well implemented though. A good example of base game DLC which doesn’t disrupt the flow of the game is Heart of Stone for Witcher3, which nicely fits into the base game and has a story reason to either do the expansion in one go or dip in and out. I certainly don’t like it when games end on cliffhanger in order to make space for DLC (NWN2). And as I like replaying a good RPG new content is always a good excuse to jump back in. I really don’t get why people who didn’t want to replay the whole game had an issue with WM. The automatic save is there, ability to rebalance WM to fit your level is there. Overall it seems like a better option being a content which can be played both by those who beat the game already and newcomers.
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Sidekicks stories
Wormerine replied to Seafarer's topic in Pillars of Eternity II: Deadfire General Discussion (NO SPOILERS)
It wasn’t my impression that they are going fo it. Rather than endless backstory and conversation, Josh talked how your actions in the game will influence companions. If you are a religious fanatic or are needlessly cruel to animals Eder will start having issues with it and after a while when he gets annoyed enough, or you do something too outrageous with you he will confront you. What I hope for is a system which will make your relationship with your companions different depending on a character you’re playing and won’t allow you easily “game” the characters. In Dragon Age:O your could be best buddies with everyone because: 1) ability to feed them gifts 2) more importantly they all lived in a bubble. You would talk to Morigan, she would constantly talk about “power” and you would act accordingly. Then you would go to Leliana and be super romantic and then you would go to Alistair and be kind, understanding and seemed like you played mini game with each character (guess what I like!) rather than have them responding to your character. There weren’t a single confrontation in the game between companions in which you had to take sides. Already KOTOR2 did it better as I found it difficult to make everyone happy. Hopefully, Deadfire will bring it to another level. The basic system discriptions sounds promising, I am curious to see how it will turn out. -
As a matter of fact there are two “main tabs” combat log represented by crosses sword icons, and conversation log represented by speech bubble icon. The same buttons were implemented in PoE1. Those portraits (and the red button) are additional filter options for the combat log. It is not new. This very same filter (and similar UI) was featured in th first “from directors feed “ update. https://youtu.be/zFSsIEApvKo See 2:35 Those buttons seem to toggle on and off specific characters (not sure if you can filter 2 or more at once). Red button showed all logs with Rotghast in them so I assume that it a filter for all logs regarding enemies in them (I doubt they will make separate buttons for each enemy as that would get messy). I imagine that what Adam is showing off is modified UI. Seems like you can move individual elements of UI around.
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That’s not really true. What we know about full companions is: 1) they will have their own story arch. Now this is a big deal and one of the reasons I have been against (I am sort of coming around but not fully yet) to idea of “upgrading” sidekicks. Creating companions you have to create for them a dilemma to solve and tie them to the main story in a way so they will be influenced by what is happening around them. Josh did call it as one of the challenges which makes it so time consuming for writers to write a full companion. Not only they have to create a fun character but they also need to think how will this character develop throughout the game and how your choices or conversations with them will influence them as characters. Sidekicks will be simply fun characters who will agree to join your quest. They might have their own opinions, and banter but they will not develop or change throughout the game. Companions quests do add to that but saying that companions = sidekick + a quest is not true if anything hinted by Obsidian is to be believed. 2) relationship system - this time around companions are supposed to track your behaviour/decisions with various preplanned reactions/story arch directions playing out depending on how much they approve/disapprove your actions. It was confirmed multiple times (ever recently by Josh) that companions will also interact with EACH OTHER positively or negatively. How much of a big deal will it be (just flavour text or possibility of harsher actions - characters trying to kill each other, refusing to be together in a party etc) remains to be seen. Overall, with companions Obsidian advertied system similar to something have have attempted before (companions in KOTOR2 for example) though much more refined, flexible and detailed than ever before. How well it will work, and how complex it will really be in the final game is to be seen but so far it has been described as a rather big deal and one of the flagship features of Deadfire. And important note: relationship system is not the same as romance option. It seems that with some companions, if your behaviour really suits them it will be possible that a romance will happen. But it will not happen with every companion. They are not aiming for a specific amount of romances and the whole thing was described as: “if it makes sense with the character and their story arch we might put it in”.
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While I would like to see new people who would tag along with expansions I am slowly getting around creating existing sidekicks into full fleshed companions, assuming of course, the expansions will work in similar fashion to White March and not be standalone. The problem with making full companions with expansion is that they need to retroactively fit with the whole game. It is not impossible but it is tricky to do if expansion takes place later in the game. So what I would like to see is one of the sidekicks becoming full companions AND one new sidekick being added with expansion.
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Tim Cain and Leonard Boyarsky new game
Wormerine replied to Walking_Potato's topic in Obsidian General
Uhh I hope not. I never managed to get into Bloodlines. A more classy steampunk victorian style might be more tempting but I would hope for something less magical. -
I believe the thread was opened before the FIG campaign has finished. If we would reatch 5.000.000 Ydwin would become full companion and new sidekick would be added. The thread was create to share ideas for this misterious sidekick. I have no idea why would someone dabble in necromancy to revive this thread.
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Well, not really: Josh twitter: these sidekicks are, in order from the first tweet: konstanten, ydwin, rekke, and fessina. bonteru and radora are dust in the wind. #rip It seems like theses are new characters. Whenever they have anything in common with first draft remains to be seen. Well, not really:
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Sidekicks stories
Wormerine replied to Seafarer's topic in Pillars of Eternity II: Deadfire General Discussion (NO SPOILERS)
Nah I don't want it changed. I want to know what she did to earn that name:-).