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Like I said, my experience had little of the usual flavors of life (I only ever really saw TNG with any consistency). I mean I'm sure they can pull it off I just don't think I'd be able to do it convincingly.

I absolutely do not feel as though an RPG requires the player to have to do "jump through hoops or do something for me" to get it. The big thing about RPGs I find is character growth and progression. Even if there's simply a "If you need it you can get it" (which I'm skeptical about....is Starfleet big on giving the top of the line ships and weapons to green captains and crews fresh out of the Academy?), a character that is a member of Starfleet will still be able to take on missions, have this missions go awry and find conflict there, and return to Starfleet with promotions, story progression, and so forth. I'm confused that some definitions seem so rigid (though really I guess I shouldn't be). Why exactly is a communist utopia a restriction on implementing an RPG exactly? Because you can simply ask Starfleet for whatever you need? There's no internal politics (really? Kirk seemed to butt heads with Starfleet Command in the movies. **** he defeated an impossible mission by cheating)? What makes an RPG? The things I like to see in RPGs are character progression, a solid story, good combat (preferably character based, but not a requirement), and the feeling of exploring a world/universe (even if the game is 100% linear). How does a communist utopia restrict these things? It's hard to describe how I feel about RPG's when you add them to star trek. It could be just because I haven't gotten that deep, but it seems like Star Trek is less about interstellar conflict, and more about finding ways around fighting. Also humanity in Star Trek is (generally) goody too shoes where there is no "bad stuff" (murder, hunger, greed, sloth etc) and we're all fighting for the same cause and don't hate eachother etc etc. There isn't much internal politiking or power grabs within the faction which just makes it too GOOD for me to believe that I'm a part of (mainly because I don't consider myself to be a paragon of humanity) It feels like if you were to play it the ability to play a jackass would be removed (well you could do it like mass Effect but even then it feels like if you were to really do that in Trek you'd either be shipped off to the secret police or imprisoned). The episodes of trek that I've seen show the Federation rarely using force to get their point across. They ALWAYS use diplomacy unless shot at, and even if they're shot at they generally try to use diplomacy rather than force. This, to me, is inhuman in terms of how they'd react, and in game terms I usually am pretty quick to pull the trigger. Basically the biggest reason I object to the Trek franchise being RPG'd is that you'd be put into a JRPG made by americans rather than a RPG. You wouldn't have branching paths (well, good and angelic) because the "dark" side would be totally closed off to you due to Fleets code of conduct.

I just don't think that Star Trek lends itself very well to the RPG genre. I don't know, but I guess it's mainly because I can't figure out how they'd throw obsticals in your path when Starfleet seems to be the type where "If you need it you can get it" rather than "Well you gotta jump through these hoops or do something for me". It's hard to explain but basically I feel like if you did do an RPG you'd have to do it rather than as a single party, you were a ship, your HP would be your health etc. Because you wouldn't have to work against internal politics and there aren't many third parties in any war that starts up besides the ferangi. I mean if you look at most of the wars that have popped up in the series, it's usually "Feds + allies vs. Everything else within range". Of course I'm sure they could come up with something that's third party, but *shrugs* I just think there wouldn't be enough conflict for the series to work (given most of the shows plotlines revolve around disasters rather than conflicts and always ends up being a single guy with special tech rather than a large empire or conspiracy.)

you mentioned MMO's that was a link to an MMO. However a standard RPG doesn't fit as well as an MMO because you can't earn money in a similar vein and you have to have MUCH less repetition than in an MMO.

well from previews AC2 looks like it's going to be SIGNIFICANTLY improved over it's predecessor.

See, this is what I don't understand. I think people are thinking way too small. There's a ton of races, political intrigue, and all sorts of **** in just the movies I've seen. I never watched a lot of the series, but I am just shocked that everyone seems to assume that a Star Trek MMO means you're going to be a part of Star Fleet. Like you say, you'd rather be a Klingon. I think the game would drop the ball if it didn't let you be a part of the major races in the Universe. http://startrekonline.com/ ?

no, but I don't think people would react well if we WEREN'T federation.

but that's the thing, every impression I've gotten of latinum is that it's like gold (which doesn't make sense to lug around a heavy valuable material when you're in the future)

A Star Trek RPG similar to Mass Effect could easily be made. There's enough races that could be used as antagonists threatening the known galaxy -- the Borg, Tholian Assembly, Breen but most interesting would be Species 8472. The player character could be some 'veteran' or 'newbie' Starfleet officer sent off in a ship travelling around several planets looking for allies & clues on how to fight the 'evil'. I can see this... kind of, but you'd have to have a one heck of a work around for the main character not having money.

the most recent dream I remember was one where I was somehow taken back into the navy and was doing everything in my power to prevent being tossed out again... weirdest part about that was I literally kept asking myself "why am I back here? This *****in sucks!" then the petty officers would go onto nice mean binges and then I woke up... hating myself for wanting to go back there for whatever reason.

nix that *checks* 3rd overall alliance side... *freaks out*

I think the reason DS9 was loved was because it wasn't mainly finding new life and making peace. the Federation got into a war with another group during several of the seasons and showed a more military side to the feds. I don't think Trek would make a very good RPG because you don't exactly have true free agents running around in the TNG era. Well you do but non in the sense of "heavily armed" agents. The standards of RPGs (western and japanese) just don't conform very well to Trek because there is no morality or rag tag group of well meaning adventerurs who save the day... everything is done for the states benefit, so it wouldn't make sense to limit a player about what equipment he could requisition, and you couldn't very well have morality play any form of role because there's only "Us" and "them" really...

Blasting my way through Ulduar. Am currently the 8th best geared tank on the server.

So I take it that it would be hard to carry on a discussion before it gets drown out by new posts? maybe... the best example to look at would be the official warcraft forums (or newsarama.com) because they've got SO MANY posters that if there is no interest the thing is on page three in an hour.

Me like max payne... But me worried max payne will be screwed up.

*looks at Yahoo* http://news.yahoo.com/s/space/20090612/sc_...yhitbymeteorite Interesting.... Kid gets hit by meteor in his hand.... actually grazed more like it.

Finished my first week of school... and did nothing.

He's actually got it mostly right, there were one or two choices that were hard because there was a SIGNIFICANT benefit to doing the evil effect, but usually it was just "Minor inconvenience or ease?"

there are skillions albion. It's just that you'll probably get lost in the sheer number of posters in the main ones (lucasarts, starwars.com etc)

the english language took a lot of damage from this... But from what I understand it's going to be a bit like galaxies in that you start out unaffiliated then pick your side(or have it picked for you based on alignment).

*lords over a former casino* CAPER FOR MY AMUSEMENT!

I haven't been up to day, but I could see this happening... what with them enacting a kill order on the Sinestro Corps during the Corps war. And with ganthet being tossed out for having emotion (yay blue lanterns!)

It's an MMO that was free. So everyone could be male or female.

No, that's the Chinese herb they stick in tea to relieve menstrual cramps. The correct term is 'dangly bits.' Isn't that a pokemon? I'm ordering you right now NOT to tell me what the upgraded version of that pokemon is. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dugong http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dewgong#Dewgong second one is the pokemon.

Began my astronomy class yesterday and realized I haven't had a good calculator in a freaking LONG time.