Volourn

4.11 version has made the game playbale for me. Still buggy though. But, playable.

"Your post-post-script should've come first, Volo, for those who haven't played the game yet..." I gave a spoiler warning at the beginning... "As to your review, you are entitled to your opinion," Of course. "but I would like to tell you that much of what you are complaining about is addressed later in the game, and the results are often quite different than what you "believe" in the beginning." Maybe. That's why this is an "Early Review"; and not a "Later Review". :D And, I doubt the easy combat, and the bugs will be explained later. <>

Okay, the title is kinda harsh; but meh. It deserves it... If you are a fanboy prepare to whine a lot or simply ignore the thread. If you are trying to be reasonable; you'll do this too. Only I can win this thread. Why? It's my review. SUCKERS! Anyways, selffarting aside, here is my super duper mini review that covers Ebon Hawk/Peragus. Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee............ SOME SPOILERS BELOW: Graphics/Sound/Music: Let's start with the less important stuff first. Music is cool. Opening them is awesome; the rest is solid and probably even better than the original so far. Sounds is exactly the same. Graphics are a mixed bag - the backgrounds are seemingly uglier than the original though the characters do look better. Main Story: WOW! This story is deep. People want you dead. Hahaha. You are the last remaining Jedi... but, you aren't a jedi or are you? And, the other Jedi aren't Jedi either. Whatever. As a side quest, this first part would be ok; but as the start of the game; it's just lame. Geez.. everyone knows you aren't the last jedi; but they pretend that's the case. Bah. Murder Mystery: Though; the guilty party was obvious; it was still amusing to run around with your head cut off looking over the all the recordings. Combat: *Yawn* Boring. Makes KOTOR1's combat seem like the hardest combat ever. It was easy plain, and simple. I died once, and that's only because I didn't bother using medpacs at all. ie. I got real lazy due to boredom. I hope the combat gets better and more varied.. and, no, the sith assassins don't cut it all. All they brought to the table was more experience and a chance to use stun. <> Game Balance: I think the game forgot about this important aspect. The Item creation is utterly useless and unneeded. I used it once just for practice. Uograding using the work bench is still useful at least. I already have tons of medpaks, mines, grenades, and verything else. And, oh, reaching level 8 in about 6 hours (and a good portion of that time wasting due to bugs) is piss poor. Even KOTOR, it was about 8 levels in about 12 hours. Impressive indeed! While, later on, you'll see I like the skill useage in the game, balance with skills is ridiculous. As a Sentinel, I can pratically max out all availble skills with intelligence 14 - I imagine a Sentinel with 18+ intelligence being bored and annoyed that there isn't enough skills to waste their points on. Hell, even in NWN at level 40 with super intelligence you could never DREAM of maxing out your skill ranks. Bah. Now, the feats are fun. Your character gets like half dozen free feats for either undescernible reasons (critical strike, power attack) or for bull**** make believe reasons ("War Veteran"). And, oh btw, there is no way according to your character's history, should you have been level 1. LAME! And, no, being unconcious for a bit is not enough. At least with Revan, you actually had a mind wipe.. unless I find out it was done this time too. Dialogue: Ahh.. Something positive. Overall, the dialogue is solid. In some parts, it's very good. Alas, some of it just seems to be someone trying to write something 'deep' and it coming off wrong. Skill Useage: Can't complain too much if at all. This is one of the main redeeming factors of the game. Awesome. Ability scores too. Inconsistences: They're all over. One prime example is a convo with Kreia. Paraphrased it goes like this: "I'm not a Jedi"... "Don't be so sure about that. You are the last remaining Jedi." "But, I left the order." "But, the order never left you." ... a little while later in the same convo... "We must find other Jedi. They might be able to help" ... "They are no longer Jedi" WTF? WTF? WTF? WTF? That isn't deep. That is convoluted, and plain old retardism. Another piss poor thing is when leaving in Ebon Hawk you tell Atton to NOT blow up the asteroids as it might kill any remaining miners; but he does it (or something convuted happens) anyways. Whatever. There are more examples; but I won't bug ya about them.. Characters: Main PC - So far fetched in it's whateverness. Half the time you get to choose your past; the other half someone has to tell you about yourself always with the exuse it's because of your 'concussion' that you forgot this valuable information. Whatever. The fact you start at level with no force powers; but "magically" have them returned to you at level 2 is just plain lame. Kreia - Meh. This character is a mess. Another 'soul link. Woo hoo! The writing tries to make her seem intelligent and worldly; but she comes off fake and foolish and nonsenical. You want a real example of an intelligent oldster that imparts knowledge to the PC please see KOTOR1. Atton - The same as Kreia. Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. He makes Carth seem cool. However, I must admit two line sof his did make me laugh and/or smile. The best being: "Don't tell me I'm going to prison again!" R00fles! The line right after that was cool to. Otherwise, a completely useless character. T3-M4: I like him/it. Not much more can be said then that. He's cool. He's funny. And, I love defending him when the two REAL idiots insult him. I mean, seriously, only idiots go out of their way to insult a droid. This guy is cool, and wayyyyyy better than he was in part one. Though; his "tagalog" workshop only gets half marks from me.. Overall, he si easily the best joinable npc of the three. Impressive considering I found him to be the 'worst"'in the original. HK50 - Well, I'm a fool and I'm smart. I was smart because I realized within 1 second that he was responsible for what occured on the mining faculty. *yawn* I was stupid, however, 'cause for some reason I mistoke him for HK47. Geez.. And, here I thought that HK47 was an "unique" droid. Guess not. All HKs are EXACTLY like him. And, oh, when you call someone Master treat them as one. Still, overall, he was often funny and cool. Thumbs up. Scion - Lame. Malak. Wannabe. Only uglier and some type of inhumane voice. Bah. Boring. Not gonna waste time discussing this dink. Influence: It's good. Not as geat as some claim it is; but not as bad as I feared it would be. A nice addition to the game; but can be twinked. Control: I'd like to control my character please. Half of my time should not be controlling another even if it's a cool droid. Bugs: Muahaha. The Bug Man striketh. This game is buggy. Characetrs doing a funky dance non stop is not cool. NPCs standing around corners 5 'blocks' back is not cool. AI commands not working as commanded is NOT cool. When I tell Kreia to use her powers; you know, i'd like her to use her powers. R00fles! Good thing the game is easy. One good thing to say bug wise; I've experience zero actual crashes. That's a first for a game.. The Areas: Ebon Hawk/Tutorial - Perfectly. Acceptable. Tutorial. I'd put it on par with the originals' except for the fact you don't even control your actual character. Otherwise, cool. I did love the 'space walk' though. Peragus - Eh. Some of it was nice - When you met Kreia as I actually thought she was ok; and the 'mine walk' again. I love wathcing the Harbinger docking and the old tapes of the deaders was alright. However, the actual action itself was simply boring. Yay. Walk down corrider after corrider destroying robots. Woopitydodah. Harbinger - Same as Peragus; but it defines the word pointless. Simply boring, and Scion's appearance was just plain. I really wish him and Kreia simply had sex, had babies, ate them, then murdered each other while they were myseriosuly locked in that room/corrider. Bah. No such luck. Telos - Really, really early here; but ti has potential. My biggest beef with this is the two calls you recieved right after the other. Talk about lameness. At least there won't be endless fighting here... I hope.. Overall. I dunno. It may seem i'm complaining a lot and I am; but the game isn't completely horrible. I'd rank it about where I'd rank NWN and TOEE (if TOEE wasn't so buggy either) if it wasn't buggy.The game, imo, will be a game that I will likely finish; but grudgingly so. Only because, there's *just* enough about it that I like to finish and unlike TOEE which had a wholly crappy story but great combat; KOTOR2 has crappy combat; but a solid story with good role-playing to keep me motivated. Hopefully, it'll improve... P.S. I'll likely do a "character" thread later. All you need to know is that I'm an 8th level Sentinel which super skills, and good stats (S10, D14, C12, I14, W14,C16). Enjoy. P.S.S. The above post *may* contain some spoilers. <> R00fles!

"Your computer specs?" Well above the reccommended specs. That is all I will devulge.

"maybe a patch will help with those issues. have you posted about them in the pc tech forum?" Why? It's not gonna help things. You know, you need responses for results to occur. <>

Le'ts put it this way, the guy is retarded. <. And, I was retarded to listen to him and waste my time spamming on the forums. LOL He doens't know the difference between a x-box and PS2... R00fles!

"Thought you bought an Xbox anyway ?" I see someone who didn't read a particular thread all the way down. <> And, oh, I might return the copy; but it won't be for a new copy if I do.

Well.. got it to install after 3 tries; but now all that did wa selad to more bugs including a game ender. Meh..

Join the club.

Simple. Fame is buggy. Took 3 installs, and now there's ahost of other problems. Meh. Anyways, those who have the real KOTOR2; enjoy it. I'll go back and play NWN. or heck POR2. At least it works. <>

"do ya see anyone with these types of problems with a desktop?" Yes, me.

Ha. Install has corrupted for me as well. Bah.

Initial Impression = Game Does Not Install.

"Ha! I'm installing it now." HA! No, I'm not.

"KOTOR II should arrive in tommorows first post so I am looking forward to it now." Ha! I'm installing it now.

"What was it about BG that was so disappointing?" I think i can answer this to a deghree as its Mr. Sawyer has brough tit up before. He was dissapointed about all the rule changes that was amde from 2E - espicially the ones that weren't documented in the manual. <> I rmemeber that was his biggest beef with it..

I'm getting it in about an hour...

It was my fault.

"Lucasarts is in charge of QA, not Obsidian. QA Reports the bugs, Obsidian fixes them. QA obviously either A) Didn't give Obsidian enough time to fix the bugs they reported, or B) Didn't report them until it was too late... which ties into A." This exuse is lame from Troika, and its lame on behalf of Obsidian. To me, since its the dev's code we speak of; they are best equipped to squash them. And, whose to say the QA team didn't catch them either and they just worked fixed due to who knows what reason. ie. time, money, etc. Both should get balmed for bugs; but the dev should get most blame. To me, there is no exuse for not having proper QA on the dev. P.S. I'm not saying Obsidian does or does not have proper QA at this point. Just syaing it should be defacto that devs should. P.S.S. A sob story about how 'small" a company is won't cut it with me either. Ask Troika fanboys.

"And NWN2 flopping" You wish you ahd the power to do this; but NWN2 is not gonna flop no matter how much you whine.

Other reasons for the possible scoring variancey - a ) PC games are notoriously more buggy than their console counterparts b) KOTOR x-box has been out for a few months; so he PC reviews are reviewing an 'old' game now that they've probably already played so it's not as 'new'...

"bollocks. i didn't have a single problem with BL." Pick Your Own Choice: A. You are the luckiest person alive to have played BL. or B. You are the biggest liar ever. You are the first person I have seen play Bl who didn't have at least one bug; if not many. Hmm..

Late 90s to early 2000s - FO, BG, NWN are the supder duper winners! Best time to be a gamer!

"I'd have to agree that Bloodlines was well worth the purchase. Quite frankly, the whole "full of bugs" was overly hype rather than reality." No. BL's bugs were very much reality. One of the buggiest games ever. Not a myth. Reality.

"overcharged for their music." If you think they overcharge; the solution is not to aprtake in it at all. Stealing is not the answer. This is what I have done with WOTC's $60 books - I don't buy them, and if I do it's one a year now. I've bpught no D&d books in the past year, and only 1 in the last 2. Stealing is wrong. You do not have a right to someone else's work. And, here I was thinking I was arrogant. R00fles!