Ben No.3 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 1. For what reasonhave you/would you have voted for President elect Donald Trump? 2. Do you feel that the cabinet that Mr. Trump is putting together is representative of these reasons? 3. What do think is Mr. Trump's target audience? 4. Do you think that the cabinett Mr. Trump is putting together reflects the wishes and desires of said audience? 1 Everybody knows the deal is rotten Old Black Joe's still pickin' cotton For your ribbons and bows And everybody knows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PK htiw klaw eriF Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 1. I didn't 2. Yes 3. Zionists and Right-Populism 4. Yes Now apologise for killing Rosa and read a book. "Akiva Goldsman and Alex Kurtzman run the 21st century version of MK ULTRA." - majestic "I'm gonna hunt you down so that I can slap you square in the mouth." - Bartimaeus "Without individual thinking you can't notice the plot holes." - InsaneCommander "Just feed off the suffering of gamers." - Malcador "You are calling my taste crap." -Hurlshort "thankfully it seems like the creators like Hungary less this time around." - Sarex "Don't forget the wakame, dumbass" -Keyrock "Are you trolling or just being inadvertently nonsensical?' -Pidesco "we have already been forced to admit you are at least human" - uuuhhii "I refuse to buy from non-woke businesses" - HoonDing "feral camels are now considered a pest" - Gorth "Melkathi is known to be an overly critical grumpy person" - Melkathi "Oddly enough Sanderson was a lot more direct despite being a Mormon" - Zoraptor "I found it greatly disturbing to scroll through my cartoon's halfing selection of genitalias." - Wormerine "Am I phrasing in the most negative light for them? Yes, but it's not untrue." - ShadySands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben No.3 Posted January 12, 2017 Author Share Posted January 12, 2017 (edited) Killing Rosa? The Rosa that comes to my mind is Rosa Luxemburg, how did I kill her? Different people did that already. I did read a bit of her works. Interesting stuff. Anyway, I feel like Trumps target audience mainly is the workint class. He promised to go against globalism (in effect, "bring back jobs" and all that), he promised to take on Wall Street and the big capital. Now, Wall Street sits in cabinet. I do not see how this cabinet is supposed to help the working man, I really do not. If the cabinet is to give us any idea of the Trump administration, then the Trump administration is doomed to fail, in the sense that it looses its voters. Also, "right populism" is not an ideology. Edited January 12, 2017 by Ben No.3 Everybody knows the deal is rotten Old Black Joe's still pickin' cotton For your ribbons and bows And everybody knows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bartimaeus Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 (edited) 1. I didn't 2. Yes 3. Rightist populists (and people who are at a lack of better options than this or what anyone else offers, aka the working class aka pretty much all of us) 4. Yes, for better or for worse Also, "right populism" is not an ideology. The "working class" is not an ideology, either, if you hadn't noticed. Edited January 13, 2017 by Bartimaeus Quote How I have existed fills me with horror. For I have failed in everything - spelling, arithmetic, riding, tennis, golf; dancing, singing, acting; wife, mistress, whore, friend. Even cooking. And I do not excuse myself with the usual escape of 'not trying'. I tried with all my heart. In my dreams, I am not crippled. In my dreams, I dance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barothmuk Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 1. He is the most radical and progressive thinker of the 21st century. 2. Yes. 3. Marxists and other far-left tendencies. 4. Yes. Trump is a scientific socialist who has populated his cabinet with the most destructive representatives of capital in order to harness its contradictions and accelerate its abolition. Truly a master of the dialectic. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meshugger Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 1. Because the left had failed to throw out identity politics and needed to be reinvigorated to what is essential. Now the pendelum swung back nicely instead of a brutal crash later. 2. Kinda 3. Normal people outside the inner city coffe latté-bubble 4. Not entirely, but that's the nature of politics, the more you promise, the more you will underdeliver. "Some men see things as they are and say why?""I dream things that never were and say why not?"- George Bernard Shaw"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."- Friedrich Nietzsche "The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." - Some guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aluminiumtrioxid Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 3. Normal people outside the inner city coffe latté-bubble smth smth losing the popular vote, "normal people" being a minority confirmed "Lulz is not the highest aspiration of art and mankind, no matter what the Encyclopedia Dramatica says." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meshugger Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 Hey, 67% live in cities in the US the last time i checked, that's a lot of bubbles. "Some men see things as they are and say why?""I dream things that never were and say why not?"- George Bernard Shaw"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."- Friedrich Nietzsche "The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." - Some guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oerwinde Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 Hey, 67% live in cities in the US the last time i checked, that's a lot of bubbles. Not everyone who lives in cities is a leftist though. Some of us work for a living. The area between the balls and the butt is a hotbed of terrorist activity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcador Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 Kind of funny to read that given how many "lefties" have solid work here. 1 Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orogun01 Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 Kind of funny to read that given how many "lefties" have solid work here. There might be a difference in both the working conditions and compensation. Blue collars and lower class jobs seem to lean more to the republican side now that every promise the left made hasn't worked for them. I'd say the answer to that question is kind of like the answer to "who's the sucker in this poker game?"* *If you can't tell, it's you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PK htiw klaw eriF Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 Kind of funny to read that given how many "lefties" have solid work here. Here leftists get paid by our jewish elitist masters to spread cultural marxism and genocide whites through twitter and reddit posts. If you want in speak to Soros at the weekly meeting and he'll hook you up. "Akiva Goldsman and Alex Kurtzman run the 21st century version of MK ULTRA." - majestic "I'm gonna hunt you down so that I can slap you square in the mouth." - Bartimaeus "Without individual thinking you can't notice the plot holes." - InsaneCommander "Just feed off the suffering of gamers." - Malcador "You are calling my taste crap." -Hurlshort "thankfully it seems like the creators like Hungary less this time around." - Sarex "Don't forget the wakame, dumbass" -Keyrock "Are you trolling or just being inadvertently nonsensical?' -Pidesco "we have already been forced to admit you are at least human" - uuuhhii "I refuse to buy from non-woke businesses" - HoonDing "feral camels are now considered a pest" - Gorth "Melkathi is known to be an overly critical grumpy person" - Melkathi "Oddly enough Sanderson was a lot more direct despite being a Mormon" - Zoraptor "I found it greatly disturbing to scroll through my cartoon's halfing selection of genitalias." - Wormerine "Am I phrasing in the most negative light for them? Yes, but it's not untrue." - ShadySands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guard Dog Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 1. For what reasonhave you/would you have voted for President elect Donald Trump? 2. Do you feel that the cabinet that Mr. Trump is putting together is representative of these reasons? 3. What do think is Mr. Trump's target audience? 4. Do you think that the cabinett Mr. Trump is putting together reflects the wishes and desires of said audience? 1) i didn't. 2) Some picks I like fine, some I'm indifferent on. One makes no sense at all to me. 3) The folks who voted for him in the Primaries. 4) Far too much is made of the importance of cabinet picks. The SecState, AG, & SecDef are meaningful picks that will have a lot of influence. After that the actual importance of who heads what bureaucracy does not matter much. I believe the President should get who they ask for to serve in their cabinet absent and blatant criminal activity. "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurlshort Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 There aren't really much in the way of left wing folks on this forum. I mean we have a few Europeans who seem to be fairly liberal, but I get the impression they are really more moderates when compared to the demographics of their country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guard Dog Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 There is entirely too much common sense on this forum to field too many zealots one way or the other. "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orogun01 Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 There is entirely too much common sense on this forum to field too many zealots one way or the other. One of my favorite things about this forum. I'd say the answer to that question is kind of like the answer to "who's the sucker in this poker game?"* *If you can't tell, it's you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorth Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 There is entirely too much common sense on this forum to field too many zealots one way or the other. Wait, you serious? As for the questions, Not being American and haven't really lived anywhere I could vote for close to 15 years anyway, so not much sense in trying to answer them. 1 “He who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would surely suffice.” - Albert Einstein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gromnir Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 4) Far too much is made of the importance of cabinet picks. The SecState, AG, & SecDef are meaningful picks that will have a lot of influence. After that the actual importance of who heads what bureaucracy does not matter much. I believe the President should get who they ask for to serve in their cabinet absent and blatant criminal activity. dunno if we agree. the President will frequent have his most significant impact on domestic events via his control o' the national agenda, but immediate secondary is gonna be appointment power. for example, George Bush Sr. appointed Jack Kemp to be the dismantler o' HUD, but things don't always go as planned. when it were announced Kemp would be the boss at HUD, any number o' liberal news outlets cried foul, 'cause they were much aware o' the control such an appointee has in deciding how a department is run. doom. gloom. predictions were dire when a hard-core supply side economics republican gets appointed to HUD. 'course reality is Kemp went native. http://www.jackkempfoundation.org/about-us/who-was-jack-kemp/ http://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/the-ghost-of-jack-kemp that being said, am not seeing many possible Jack Kemps 'mongst the trump appointees. perhaps a couple? am not expecting any appointee to go rogue, but we can see a couple who will possible run their department with guidance from trump, but w/o compromising personal values. could have a few departments run much different than trump expects... and fire such appointees is gonna result in even further diminished political clout for trump. HA! Good Fun! "If there be time to expose through discussion the falsehood and fallacies, to avert the evil by the processes of education, the remedy to be applied is more speech, not enforced silence."Justice Louis Brandeis, Concurring, Whitney v. California, 274 U.S. 357 (1927) "Im indifferent to almost any murder as long as it doesn't affect me or mine."--Gfted1 (September 30, 2019) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agiel Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 (edited) could have a few departments run much different than trump expects... and fire such appointees is gonna result in even further diminished political clout for trump. *Cough*cough*JamesMattis*cough*cough*. On the money that firing someone like Mattis could along with such silly things as significantly curtailing (or god forbid, cancelling) F-35 production would hand to Trump's enemies the blade with which to cut his throat with (politically, of course). Edited January 14, 2017 by Agiel Quote “Political philosophers have often pointed out that in wartime, the citizen, the male citizen at least, loses one of his most basic rights, his right to life; and this has been true ever since the French Revolution and the invention of conscription, now an almost universally accepted principle. But these same philosophers have rarely noted that the citizen in question simultaneously loses another right, one just as basic and perhaps even more vital for his conception of himself as a civilized human being: the right not to kill.” -Jonathan Littell <<Les Bienveillantes>> Quote "The chancellor, the late chancellor, was only partly correct. He was obsolete. But so is the State, the entity he worshipped. Any state, entity, or ideology becomes obsolete when it stockpiles the wrong weapons: when it captures territories, but not minds; when it enslaves millions, but convinces nobody. When it is naked, yet puts on armor and calls it faith, while in the Eyes of God it has no faith at all. Any state, any entity, any ideology that fails to recognize the worth, the dignity, the rights of Man...that state is obsolete." -Rod Serling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben No.3 Posted January 14, 2017 Author Share Posted January 14, 2017 Kind of funny to read that given how many "lefties" have solid work here.Here leftists get paid by our jewish elitist masters to spread cultural marxism and genocide whites through twitter and reddit posts. If you want in speak to Soros at the weekly meeting and he'll hook you up. Why would elites decide to pay Marxists rather than right wingers? For Marxists they somehow need to work around the entire ideology, fromright wingers they probably get support anyway, so that should be far easier. Everybody knows the deal is rotten Old Black Joe's still pickin' cotton For your ribbons and bows And everybody knows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben No.3 Posted January 14, 2017 Author Share Posted January 14, 2017 (edited) There aren't really much in the way of left wing folks on this forum. I mean we have a few Europeans who seem to be fairly liberal, but I get the impression they are really more moderates when compared to the demographics of their country.Weeeeell.... On political compass I got like -7/-7 Edited January 14, 2017 by Ben No.3 1 Everybody knows the deal is rotten Old Black Joe's still pickin' cotton For your ribbons and bows And everybody knows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcador Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 There is entirely too much common sense on this forum to field too many zealots one way or the other. Hahahahahahahaha. 1 Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guard Dog Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 There is entirely too much common sense on this forum to field too many zealots one way or the other. Hahahahahahahaha. Hey I didn't say there were none! "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PK htiw klaw eriF Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 There is entirely too much common sense on this forum to field too many zealots one way or the other. Hahahahahahahaha. Hey I didn't say there were none! Well I'm glad you didn't forget about me. "Akiva Goldsman and Alex Kurtzman run the 21st century version of MK ULTRA." - majestic "I'm gonna hunt you down so that I can slap you square in the mouth." - Bartimaeus "Without individual thinking you can't notice the plot holes." - InsaneCommander "Just feed off the suffering of gamers." - Malcador "You are calling my taste crap." -Hurlshort "thankfully it seems like the creators like Hungary less this time around." - Sarex "Don't forget the wakame, dumbass" -Keyrock "Are you trolling or just being inadvertently nonsensical?' -Pidesco "we have already been forced to admit you are at least human" - uuuhhii "I refuse to buy from non-woke businesses" - HoonDing "feral camels are now considered a pest" - Gorth "Melkathi is known to be an overly critical grumpy person" - Melkathi "Oddly enough Sanderson was a lot more direct despite being a Mormon" - Zoraptor "I found it greatly disturbing to scroll through my cartoon's halfing selection of genitalias." - Wormerine "Am I phrasing in the most negative light for them? Yes, but it's not untrue." - ShadySands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guard Dog Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 There is entirely too much common sense on this forum to field too many zealots one way or the other. Hahahahahahahaha. Hey I didn't say there were none! Well I'm glad you didn't forget about me. You? You're like the anti-zealot. Some folks care too much. You don't care at all! "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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