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Did someone here menage to piss him off enough so that he betrays you to the VCI as Sung's assassin? I tried, but only got to -5 or -6, and that was not enough. I think I had -9 or -10 with Madison when she hit me in the head and run away to Marburg, so maybe you need to have complete animosity with characters for them to take actions against you.

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Did someone here menage to piss him off enough so that he betrays you to the VCI as Sung's assassin? I tried, but only got to -5 or -6, and that was not enough. I think I had -9 or -10 with Madison when she hit me in the head and run away to Marburg, so maybe you need to have complete animosity with characters for them to take actions against you.

I only had dislike, but he did betray me. Maybe because I didn't delete his dossier at the hotel?

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What stance did you use during conversations?

I tried professional and didn't delete those files, but still he didn't betray me.



So, now public thinks you killed Sung? Or tried to, depending on the choice?

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Mostly professional, sometimes suave.
I gave Sung the riot plans and didn't try to assassinate him (didn't even know you can).

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No, you can't, someone else is the assassin, but Heck gives the name to the public, if he likes you, he just gives a random name, but if he dislikes you, I guess he gives your name? What did the news say, did they mention you as a suspect?

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Not just mention, they repeat it several times until the ending. President candidate Darcy even encourages a hunt for you IIRC. :no:
Heck's dialogue wen somehow like this:
-So Mike a VCI guy comes and says Steve Heck, I have an offer you can't refuse. So I broke some of his fingers for calling me Steve and asked what his offer is. Said he'll give me 5 (or 50, can't remember) million dollars if I spread that you are the guy who shot Sung!
-You didn't..
-Well I never liked you Mike so have fun!

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Thanks for that. Did you finish that playthrough? Did Lailand mention that in the end? That would be cool. Do you have to go into hiding, or can you reveal the real assassin, if you figure out who it is?

I still don't get why he didn't betray me. Maybe because I came to him as soon as I got there, if I waited for a while, I could have gotten -1 for that. Or maybe its a bug.

Edited by Spiked, 06 June 2010 - 04:40 AM.


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You can build up a fairly decent relationship with Heck without casually offing civilians and going too mad...

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Thanks for that. Did you finish that playthrough? Did Lailand mention that in the end? That would be cool. Do you have to go into hiding, or can you reveal the real assassin, if you figure out who it is?

Leland didn't mention it, but the credits news said that Mike is still being hunted. Mina may have mentioned it at some point but eh, my memory is crap. ;)
There was no way to expose the assassin (and I was (trying to) romancing Scarlet anyway).

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No, you can't, someone else is the assassin, but Heck gives the name to the public, if he likes you, he just gives a random name, but if he dislikes you, I guess he gives your name? What did the news say, did they mention you as a suspect?

He doesn't give a random name, he gives the name of Wen Shu, the guy he wanted to use the dry cleaner on.

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No, you can't, someone else is the assassin, but Heck gives the name to the public, if he likes you, he just gives a random name, but if he dislikes you, I guess he gives your name? What did the news say, did they mention you as a suspect?

He doesn't give a random name, he gives the name of Wen Shu, the guy he wanted to use the dry cleaner on.

Yeah, and as Tig said, it's friggin hilarious. I missed a line or two of dialogue laughing after that one.

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Oh, so thats who Wen Shu is, I never figured it out. So what, Heck just hates that guy for some reason? :D

Edited by Spiked, 07 June 2010 - 12:21 AM.


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No, Heck is just an a-hole.

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but he's a funny a-hole

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Not from Wen's point of view.

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Lesson for us all, never put Hecks keys in the candy dish!

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Wasn't it Heck who left them there?

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looking at my own sig... oeps, brain malfunction concured.

Yeah, you're right

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o:)

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Yeah, Heck leaves Wen Shu out to dry, which is fantastic.

Actually, in my very first playthrough, when I saw Heck torturing Wen, the first thing I thought was - these guys are probably friends. Wen's probably a good friend / lackey of Heck, but pissed him off. I think I'm right - and later, in the credits, you hear that a copy of Catcher in the Rye has been found in his home. Not something Heck would do, I think Wen is a Chinese agent that's wound up with Heck somehow.




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