Guard Dog Posted February 5, 2018 Posted February 5, 2018 Voting isn't the answer huh? Well Val, what do you suggest? "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell
redneckdevil Posted February 5, 2018 Posted February 5, 2018 If we consider the Russians "hacking" the election by spreading misinformation, it's hard to get riled up about it simply because we was getting the same treatment from our very own media. And since we can't be up in arms about misinformation/manipulation from our very own media because of freedom of press/speech and since we want ALL people in our country to have the same benefits as citizens....then where do we get the right to criticize Russians for doing what we allow done to ourselves? Are we up in arms about the EU with their actions against a Trump win? Nope because even though it's the same **** the Russians were doing, it's okay because they were going AGAINST Trump. Solely blaming the Russians is ****ing bull****.
BruceVC Posted February 5, 2018 Posted February 5, 2018 https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2018/01/putins-game/546548/ Guys here is an excellent read around how the Russians interfered in the USA election I am always surprised how our American friends dont seem concerned with this type of attempt to undermine the Democratic process in a country like the USA? I'm not really concerned because when we all go in the voting booth there are no Russians in there with us. Yeah maybe they are spreading disinformation. But considering who are last three Presidents were and the four nominees who didn't get elected I'd say it was all just a choice of bad options. Not one of them would have been better than any other. And some maybe a good deal worse. So because of the Russians unflattering things end up in the news? OK, I figure most Americans aren't watching anyway. You know the problem with all those ugly e-mails and other info released to wikileaks? If the principles in the DNC and Hillary Clinton's campaign had conducted their business in a professional manner, like people do at their jobs every single day, there would not have been much to release. I'd hazard a guess and say no one with any sense voted for either Clinton or Trump. They voted against the alternative. And until people figure out there are more than two options the race to the bottom will continue. If we consider the Russians "hacking" the election by spreading misinformation, it's hard to get riled up about it simply because we was getting the same treatment from our very own media. And since we can't be up in arms about misinformation/manipulation from our very own media because of freedom of press/speech and since we want ALL people in our country to have the same benefits as citizens....then where do we get the right to criticize Russians for doing what we allow done to ourselves? Are we up in arms about the EU with their actions against a Trump win? Nope because even though it's the same **** the Russians were doing, it's okay because they were going AGAINST Trump. Solely blaming the Russians is ****ing bull****. Fair enough, you guys ultimately need to be comfortable with this whole Russian attempt to interfere in the election But I also agree it has become lackluster and a little banal as its not really that relevant to the Democratic loss 1 "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela
redneckdevil Posted February 5, 2018 Posted February 5, 2018 (edited) The thing is yes Russians interfering in the election was horribad, BUT it loses it "edge" when it's shown as the SOLE interference when our own Media was blatantly manipulating the population and everyone's okay with that. ****ing the Russians, but **** our own media even more because they are us, our own people manipulating us. Then we got the EU also interfering by saying Trump isn't welcomed/evil/etc BEFORE he's even elected or even has a chance to **** up. The Russians are just a piss drop in the bucket and is the MAIN target because of the old "cold war" villian we Americans are used to seeing them so that we have our outrage directed SOLELY at them and not the other mutha****** who were doing it EVEN more than they were. It's like being SOLELY mad at someone u don't know for kicking you in the shin when u got people u do know repeatably punching u in the face at the same time. Like yeah screw that guy for kicking me in the shin but **** these guys who are still punching me in the face. But seeing them kick one of the guys whos punching us in the face in the balls (DNC emails) make them a lil okay, still screw them though. Edited February 5, 2018 by redneckdevil
smjjames Posted February 5, 2018 Posted February 5, 2018 That's unrealistic, a maga chud wouldn't be talking to a girl, let alone have one in his home. He's a Trump supporter so that's most propably his wife. You confused him with Bernie supporter. Rofl at both of you XD (and yes I was a Bernie supporter and I find that part funny too)
BruceVC Posted February 5, 2018 Posted February 5, 2018 Oh that reminds me, where has Sharp_one been? Has he been active? "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela
smjjames Posted February 5, 2018 Posted February 5, 2018 I don't know if he is more or less active than he seems to have been recently, but I just quoted a post he made last night, so, he's around. 1
Blarghagh Posted February 5, 2018 Author Posted February 5, 2018 That's unrealistic, a maga chud wouldn't be talking to a girl, let alone have one in his home.He's a Trump supporter so that's most propably his wife. You confused him with Bernie supporter. Impossible. She disagreed and has no bruises.
Guard Dog Posted February 5, 2018 Posted February 5, 2018 Trump & Adam Schiff are sniping at each other over Twitter. I think they should fight by the slides during recess. You know, say what you will about George W Bush (and I was certainly not a fan) at least he was always cognizant of the dignity and role of the office. 1 "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell
Malcador Posted February 5, 2018 Posted February 5, 2018 Trump & Adam Schiff are sniping at each other over Twitter. I think they should fight by the slides during recess. You know, say what you will about George W Bush (and I was certainly not a fan) at least he was always cognizant of the dignity and role of the office. Shame he decided to surround himself with devils though. Well relative devils, I suppose. Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra
ShadySands Posted February 5, 2018 Posted February 5, 2018 (edited) "Modern Day Presidential" Edited February 5, 2018 by ShadySands 2 Free games updated 3/4/21
redneckdevil Posted February 5, 2018 Posted February 5, 2018 Trump & Adam Schiff are sniping at each other over Twitter. I think they should fight by the slides during recess. You know, say what you will about George W Bush (and I was certainly not a fan) at least he was always cognizant of the dignity and role of the office. Didn't like him but Obama reminds me more of dignity of the office. Bush hands down though can take one on the chin and keep going. Trump definitely looks like a whiny lil bitch compared to them 2. Can't really say about Clinton since I was somewhat smart enough to pay attention more to video games and being a teenager than get involve in politics.
Guard Dog Posted February 5, 2018 Posted February 5, 2018 Oh my God! A President who says things that are not true?! STOP THE PRESSES! From Obama going all the way back to, well, Carter and Ford (maybe), then another long stretch back to Eisenhower & Truman (maybe) our Presidents have looked us in the eye and told us lies, knowing that they were lying. But with Trump, it is conceivable he thinks everything he says is true. It may even be he thinks it becomes true just because he's saying it. The rich are different after all. It the words of George Costanza "It's not a lie if YOU believe it". And somehow that makes it so much worse. I guess I rather have a liar than a fool. "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell
Guard Dog Posted February 5, 2018 Posted February 5, 2018 Trump & Adam Schiff are sniping at each other over Twitter. I think they should fight by the slides during recess. You know, say what you will about George W Bush (and I was certainly not a fan) at least he was always cognizant of the dignity and role of the office. Didn't like him but Obama reminds me more of dignity of the office. Bush hands down though can take one on the chin and keep going. Trump definitely looks like a whiny lil bitch compared to them 2. Can't really say about Clinton since I was somewhat smart enough to pay attention more to video games and being a teenager than get involve in politics. Totally disagree with you on Obama. Between bowing and groveling to dictators during meetings and opening up his mouth and involving the executive branch in things that do NOT concern it like the George Zimmerman thing and the professor who was arrested for breaking into his own house he compromised the office as badly as anyone. Until Trump came along at least. "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell
ShadySands Posted February 5, 2018 Posted February 5, 2018 It's more the rate at which he says things that are untrue along with his inability to let petty things go. A fool and a liar I'd say. Free games updated 3/4/21
HoonDing Posted February 5, 2018 Posted February 5, 2018 what dictators did Obama grovel to The ending of the words is ALMSIVI.
Gfted1 Posted February 5, 2018 Posted February 5, 2018 what dictators did Obama grovel to Google "Obama kowtow". "I'm your biggest fan, Ill follow you until you love me, Papa"
HoonDing Posted February 5, 2018 Posted February 5, 2018 Akihito is a dictator? The ending of the words is ALMSIVI.
Malcador Posted February 5, 2018 Posted February 5, 2018 Akihito is a dictator? Remember Pearl Harbor Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra
Gfted1 Posted February 5, 2018 Posted February 5, 2018 Oic, were doing the "he didn't grovel" to a "dictator" dog and pony show. Googling is hard, but if you use the search term I handed you, you will also see him kowtow to some Saudi prince/king/whatever. Are they "dictators"? "I'm your biggest fan, Ill follow you until you love me, Papa"
BruceVC Posted February 5, 2018 Posted February 5, 2018 "Modern Day Presidential" This is a good read, Trump has definitely lied and embellished the truth much more than Trump Oh my God! A President who says things that are not true?! STOP THE PRESSES! From Obama going all the way back to, well, Carter and Ford (maybe), then another long stretch back to Eisenhower & Truman (maybe) our Presidents have looked us in the eye and told us lies, knowing that they were lying. But with Trump, it is conceivable he thinks everything he says is true. It may even be he thinks it becomes true just because he's saying it. The rich are different after all. It the words of George Costanza "It's not a lie if YOU believe it". And somehow that makes it so much worse. I guess I rather have a liar than a fool. But GD did you see how many statements Trump made that werent true ? "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela
Zoraptor Posted February 5, 2018 Posted February 5, 2018 Meh, according to the mainstream media "Assad fights ISIS" was a lie when Trump said it. They've lied about Trump's lies extensively and repeatedly. And it's not like Trump doesn't lie enough anyway without them making more up, they just cannot help themselves. Oic, were doing the "he didn't grovel" to a "dictator" dog and pony show. Googling is hard, but if you use the search term I handed you, you will also see him kowtow to some Saudi prince/king/whatever. Are they "dictators"? Trump has definitely kowtowed to the Saudi far more in practical terms than Obama. Bowing is irrelevant except as a nicety, it only means something to people who aren't secure in their power. I'm pretty sure that Obama would have mentioned the large US base in Qatar before giving the Saudis the green light to invade instead of Sexy Rexy having to make a frantic phone call to remind MbS of that fact. If anything Obama was the least Saudi subservient US leader in recent memory. 1
Gfted1 Posted February 5, 2018 Posted February 5, 2018 GD: "Obama groveled" HD: "nuh uh" G1: "Yep, right here" HD: "where" G1: "right there" Z: "Trump does it more" ... G1: "eject, eject, eject" "I'm your biggest fan, Ill follow you until you love me, Papa"
BruceVC Posted February 5, 2018 Posted February 5, 2018 (edited) Meh, according to the mainstream media "Assad fights ISIS" was a lie when Trump said it. They've lied about Trump's lies extensively and repeatedly. And it's not like Trump doesn't lie enough anyway without them making more up, they just cannot help themselves. ? " they lied about Trumps lie " When its positioned like that it sounds absurd Edited February 5, 2018 by BruceVC "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela
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