darqleo 104 Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 15 minutes into the next #Deadfire Q&A Twitch Stream: "Does anyone have any questions that don't deal with Ydwin?" 5 Link to post Share on other sites
SonicMage117 961 Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 15 minutes into the next #Deadfire Q&A Twitch Stream: "Does anyone have any questions that don't deal with Ydwin?" #GitRekt Just what do you think you're doing?! You dare to come between me and my prey? Is it a habit of yours to scurry about, getting in the way and causing bother? What are you still bothering me for? I'm a Knight. I'm not interested in your childish games. I need my rest. Begone! Lest I draw my nail... Link to post Share on other sites
FlintlockJazz 2,005 Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 Funnily enough I think the original idea was that the companion who are referencing who was to be rescued was to die, making the whole rescue her plot redundant and quite frankly crap in my opinion (forcing the player to go on a rescue in the first place, only to swipe the goal at the last second and leave you with nothing...) They changed it quite late when they finally twigged it would have been a rubbish idea, but that is why she barely has any lines once you rescue her. I think this is plausible. Said companion is much more vorbose in the subsequent expansion. Yep, she suddenly finds her mouth again in the expansion! :D *GASP* Just joking. They are a personal fav of mine, but they are based on D&D 2nd Edition (another personal fav), so you may not like some of the dastardly mechanics such as THAC0. The series has been repolished and rereleased by Beamdog and I think they are only $20 each if you want to try them out. Imo, BG II is better than BG. I used to feel BG2 was better than 1 as well, and without mods or the Beamdog polishing (which was just the applying of aforementioned mods at install with some prettying up, but I digress) it is technically better, but I have since found an appreciation for the first one. First one had a bit more exploration and a bit less grimness than the second, plus I seem to enjoy lower level adventuring more than high level I find. Just mho of course, just one I find interesting in how it has changed over the years. 3 "That rabbit's dynamite!" - King Arthur, Monty Python and the Quest for the Holy Grail "Space is big, really big." - Douglas Adams Link to post Share on other sites
injurai 3,507 Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 I used to feel BG2 was better than 1 as well, and without mods or the Beamdog polishing (which was just the applying of aforementioned mods at install with some prettying up, but I digress) it is technically better, but I have since found an appreciation for the first one. First one had a bit more exploration and a bit less grimness than the second, plus I seem to enjoy lower level adventuring more than high level I find. Just mho of course, just one I find interesting in how it has changed over the years. I totally agree with this. Partly I think it has to do with seeing even further technical advancements, that the "half-way steps" to where we are now don't quite impress as much. It's the other meatier content that stands out to me when looking back. It's a similar way to how I view Mass Effect 1 and 2. Link to post Share on other sites
ArtistFormerlyKnownasKP 6,524 Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 I had a thought. For the sake of drama, one of the existing full companions could get a glorious death at a key moment in the campaign. One of the sidekicks could then be elevated to a full companion in the expansion as a fill-in. What if one of the companions gets kidnapped and players must go rescue them. Then while on their journey, another party member is unmasked to be a traitor and surprise attacks the party! Upon their death it is revealed that an evil cipher placed them under a permanent Whisper of Treason spell, but now you have an extra party slot for the soon-to-be-rescued member. Naaaah, such a flimsy idea will never sell Funnily enough I think the original idea was that the companion who are referencing who was to be rescued was to die, making the whole rescue her plot redundant and quite frankly crap in my opinion (forcing the player to go on a rescue in the first place, only to swipe the goal at the last second and leave you with nothing...) They changed it quite late when they finally twigged it would have been a rubbish idea, but that is why she barely has any lines once you rescue her. Well at least that would have saved us from Imoen Romance mods. "I am the expert, asshat." - Hurlsnot "You need to be careful, lest I write another ten page essay on mythology and how it relates to Sailor Moon." - majestic "I won't say what just in case KaineParker is reading" - Bartimaeus "Oh no! Is there super secret ending as well? I don’t care." - Wormerine Link to post Share on other sites
darqleo 104 Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 (edited) I used to feel BG2 was better than 1 as well, and without mods or the Beamdog polishing (which was just the applying of aforementioned mods at install with some prettying up, but I digress) it is technically better, but I have since found an appreciation for the first one. First one had a bit more exploration and a bit less grimness than the second, plus I seem to enjoy lower level adventuring more than high level I find. Just mho of course, just one I find interesting in how it has changed over the years. Back in the day, that was a major gripe about BG1 and that they "fixed" for BG2, a lot of wilderness areas where there was little or no content. That was a plus for me, I love wandering the woods and then suddenly running into a ogre, or traveling merchant, or finding a random item hidden in a tree stump. Edited May 9, 2017 by darqleo 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Messier-31 2,481 Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 Ditto, plus I also consider the BG1 plot to be more interesting. 1 It would be of small avail to talk of magic in the air... Link to post Share on other sites
Blarghagh 4,871 Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 BG1 had a plot? I kid, I kid. Link to post Share on other sites
Gromnir 7,811 Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 bg had a main plot, but it were filled with holes and clichés. poison iron in mines to create a synthetic shortage? not gonna once again get into why the whole iron shortage nonsense were pointless when you already got bandits raiding, but another mine with a james bondesque self-destruct feature were serious beyond the pale. the "exploration" some point to as an advantage o' bg compared to bg2 were, in point of fact, one o' the more criticized aspects o' bg. particular following totsc, the boardies overwhelming demanded less mowing o' largely empty or repetitive wilderness maps, and more durlag's tower kinda stuff. we spoke with bioware developers 'bout bg years after the title's initial release, and more than one admitted playing the game five or ten years after the initial release felt like slow death before reaching the city o' baldur's gate. bioware's first d&d title had many flaws folks inexplicable wanna ignore. a never ending flood o' mindless fed-ex quests. poor developed characters. companions with nothing to speak to quality save a catchphrase and the contents o' their character record sheet. shallow tactical challenges made worse by a few overwhelming powerful abilities, spells and items. etc. bg were not a particular good game. it had the advantage o' being the best d&d crpg for many years, which weren't saying a whole lot. also, for many people, bg were a welcome alternative to the action-rpg diablo clones which were then flooding the market. folks frequent see qualities in bg which did not exist, or would not have existed save for bg2. HA! Good Fun! 4 "If there be time to expose through discussion the falsehood and fallacies, to avert the evil by the processes of education, the remedy to be applied is more speech, not enforced silence."Justice Louis Brandeis, Concurring, Whitney v. California, 274 U.S. 357 (1927) "Im indifferent to almost any murder as long as it doesn't affect me or mine."--Gfted1 (September 30, 2019) Link to post Share on other sites
Katarack21 3,118 Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 In other words, her pose is fine. Her outfit is fine. Her obsession with corpses is... umm... well, I'll get back to you on that one. She's a cute, skinny, physically capable female character who is morbid, people think is a little off, and is obsessed with studying corpses. She's not "anime" anything. She's Bones. She is Bones in fantasy tropes. She is Bones *in Eora*. 4 Link to post Share on other sites
Baltic 89 Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 I don't think Ydwin was designed to appeal to anime fans and I personally don't find her to be that anime. Admittedly I've seen very little anime. Is there really a problem with pointing out the similarities though? Link to post Share on other sites
SonicMage117 961 Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 I don't think Ydwin was designed to appeal to anime fans and I personally don't find her to be that anime. Admittedly I've seen very little anime. Is there really a problem with pointing out the similarities though?No problem with pointing out the similarities... However, it became an issue to some when people tried to make it relevant/related. Just what do you think you're doing?! You dare to come between me and my prey? Is it a habit of yours to scurry about, getting in the way and causing bother? What are you still bothering me for? I'm a Knight. I'm not interested in your childish games. I need my rest. Begone! Lest I draw my nail... Link to post Share on other sites
Lord_Mord 801 Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 She's not "anime" anything. She's Bones. She is Bones in fantasy tropes. She is Bones *in Eora*. That really doesn't make it better. 2 --- We're all doomed Link to post Share on other sites
Katarack21 3,118 Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 She's not "anime" anything. She's Bones. She is Bones in fantasy tropes. She is Bones *in Eora*. That really doesn't make it better. Maybe for you. I like forensic procedural's a hell of a lot more than I like most modern anime, though. Link to post Share on other sites
Lord_Mord 801 Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 Maybe for you. I like forensic procedural's a hell of a lot more than I like most modern anime, though. The forensic stuff is not my problem. Bones is. And the Angel-guy. And the cheap production. And the cheap humor. Basically almost everything about that show except the forensic stuff. Now that I think ybout it: They could have made the forensic stuff a little bit more realistic. --- We're all doomed Link to post Share on other sites
Aleh1811 69 Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 She is the only new female character that is close to being physically atracttive, that should be enough to receive a very warm welcome in this mostly male forum. Link to post Share on other sites
Lord_Mord 801 Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 (edited) She is the only new female character that is close to being physically atracttive, that should be enough to receive a very warm welcome in this mostly male forum. If I wanted to ****, I would choose another game. This ****ing forum tries to ****ing censor the word ****. Edited May 12, 2017 by Amentep Yes it does. Its also in the forum rules not to circumvent the word filter. The forum is supposed to be "all ages" friendly. 1 --- We're all doomed Link to post Share on other sites
injurai 3,507 Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 She is the only new female character that is close to being physically atracttive, that should be enough to receive a very warm welcome in this mostly male forum. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Gromnir 7,811 Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 maia is clear the most attractive poe2 companion thus far, regardless o' sex. 'course we ain't seen her shark teeth as yet, so there is that. HA! Good Fun! 2 "If there be time to expose through discussion the falsehood and fallacies, to avert the evil by the processes of education, the remedy to be applied is more speech, not enforced silence."Justice Louis Brandeis, Concurring, Whitney v. California, 274 U.S. 357 (1927) "Im indifferent to almost any murder as long as it doesn't affect me or mine."--Gfted1 (September 30, 2019) Link to post Share on other sites
rjshae 9,777 Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 I suspect there's probably not a few players looking for an Aerie-like experience in PoE2. Ydwin doesn't quite fit the bill, but she's probably closer than the other recruits. "It has just been discovered that research causes cancer in rats." Link to post Share on other sites
JerekKruger 3,526 Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 (edited) I suspect there's probably not a few players looking for an Aerie-like experience in PoE2. Ydwin doesn't quite fit the bill, but she's probably closer than the other recruits. People liked Aerie? Edited May 10, 2017 by JerekKruger 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Sedrefilos 2,092 Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 (edited) I knew the concern about Ydwin is because people wanted to **** to her. This is sad... Edited May 12, 2017 by Amentep please don't circumvent the word filter 1 Link to post Share on other sites
SonicMage117 961 Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 (edited) I knew the concern about Ydwin is because people wanted to **** to her. This is sad... Lol Uh oh... Don't say that here... there's alotta hardcore anime fans that will deny that hentai is a part of anime lifestyle. Edited May 12, 2017 by Amentep Just what do you think you're doing?! You dare to come between me and my prey? Is it a habit of yours to scurry about, getting in the way and causing bother? What are you still bothering me for? I'm a Knight. I'm not interested in your childish games. I need my rest. Begone! Lest I draw my nail... Link to post Share on other sites
rjshae 9,777 Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 I suspect there's probably not a few players looking for an Aerie-like experience in PoE2. Ydwin doesn't quite fit the bill, but she's probably closer than the other recruits. People liked Aerie? Yes, there are players that liked Aerie, particularly since she can be romanced. Tastes vary. "It has just been discovered that research causes cancer in rats." Link to post Share on other sites
JerekKruger 3,526 Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 I suspect there's probably not a few players looking for an Aerie-like experience in PoE2. Ydwin doesn't quite fit the bill, but she's probably closer than the other recruits. People liked Aerie? Yes, there are players that liked Aerie, particularly since she can be romanced. Tastes vary. Heh, I know. She wasn't to my taste but my comment was only meant in jest. Each to their own. Link to post Share on other sites
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