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No, because none of them made a big deal out of it. It was just there, like a ton of other content. 

 

Bioware did, and employees of the company did, including Gaider, on the forums. In fact, Gaider was on the record more than most, beating the SJW drum. He was in fact, instrumental in pushing for it, likely because he's gay himself. 

 

I know it's an amazing concept, but people can, in fact, have agendas and people within BW weren't even trying to deny it. 

 

https://www.polygon.com/2014/7/1/5860204/dragon-age-inquisition-bioware-gay-character

https://www.destructoid.com/bioware-lead-writer-talks-gay-romances-lgbt-characters-and-dragon-age-sales-292333.phtml

https://gamerant.com/bioware-same-sex-romance-stance/

 

And there is no denying what obvious agenda you are pushing. The level of anxiety from insecure heterosexuals over those hidden homosexuals, that the for the most part are already specifically designed to be entirely avoidable, is most curious. If you do not wish to encounter anything gay then games, barring a handful of indie exceptions, have you covered. If you hate homosexuals so much that you cannot stand the very thought of playing a game with homosexuals in it then you are part of a group that is no longer universally catered to. Though you still can play 99% of games without issue since the overwhelmingly huge majority of games, as shockin as that may seem to you, do not have any gay characters. Luckily Deadfire is not one of them. No matter how angry you and your accomplices get Deadfire will still have gay content.

 

 

This is the part that drives me bananas. It's not "oh I hate forced flirtation." because I can't think of a single BW game where one female character doesn't openly hit on the PC. (Other than of course NWN which I haven't played to confirm that). Its funny how its only an issue when it's a male NPC on the male PC. There has never been a forced (bug or otherwise) gay romance in the games they trot as examples of "forcing the gay agenda". And some of them laughably try to use the "it's only fanservice and doesn't make sense." even when said NPC hitting on their PC is perfectly in character.

 

The only complaint I can get is the ones that feel their rejections didn't match what they felt their PC would say, otherwise it's usually "how dare he hit on me!" thin skinned nonsense. If a woman reacted to them hitting on her the way they do these NPCs they'd call her hysterical.

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this thread...

 

*shrug*

 

our feelings on the subject is summed up nice in the following

 

“It could have been--it didn't have to be obscene.... It could have been--a bird out of season, dropping bright-feathered on my shoulder.... It could have been a tongueless dwarf standing by the road to point the way.... I was prepared. But it's this, is it? No enigma, no dignity, nothing classical, portentous, only this--a comic pornographer and a rabble of prostitutes....”― Tom Stoppard, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead

 

nevertheless, this thread, well...

 

 

would be so worth it.

 

HA! Good Fun!

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I’m looking forward to graphic descriptions of intense, frenzied, passionate love making sessions...and I plan to play solo

Did you play Divinity OS 2? The narrator oh god the narrator.

 

I couldn't breathe while playing the romances. XD

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 I saw games getting ruined because of "romance" - if you think that romance is just sex...- and I saw games getting better because of it. I never played The Witcher 3 because everything that I hear from that game is, "which bitch shall I bang?" and that is it... Dragon Age Inquisition is just an awfull game that didn't know how to handle romance right, with the exception of Harding, every single romance feel rushed, it feels like they want to give sex to the main character as soon as possible... talking about sex... Mass Effect is just a sex simulator now, the trailers are out and people are preoccupied with the appearence of the team, one of the comments from the trailers: 'There was a Bioware dev. meeting with fans two years before, in that meeting one SJW girl stood up and asked the developers to make the female characters literally ugly and 'thick'. Seems like Bioware took it to the heart."  when your game community attracts people with this type of thoughts... that is when you know you destroyed your game...

 

BUT, you have some games with great romance options, like Dragon Age Origins, I don't know about you guys but for me all of the romances in that game felt natural and, the most important, felt right towards the character personality.

 

TL;DR: It's important that the romance don't get in the way, that the best thing about the game is the combat, the lore or the story and not if you can bang someone or not... oh... by the way, Xoti is not beautiful to you? Why? Well... maybe it's because your culture is different. The culture of your country really dictates what you like and don't like.

Don't listen to the Witcher 3 stuff. The game is fantastic, easily the best modern rpg. I can't really fathom why some people would talk about banging girls in the game, there's really not much in it. There's just two romance options. I think there's one or two one-offs you can have in side-quests but I can't really remember all too well. It's a 100+ hour game so it's definetly not a focuss in the game by any stretch. The only reason why I can imagine some people having that conversation is because they didn't actually play the game and are still hung up on the cards from Witcher 1.

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I wonder what kind of bizarre bubble one has to live in to that be the only thing you have heard about Witcher 3.

 

Or that Mass Effect is a  sex simulator. Weird.

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 I saw games getting ruined because of "romance" - if you think that romance is just sex...- and I saw games getting better because of it. I never played The Witcher 3 because everything that I hear from that game is, "which bitch shall I bang?" and that is it... Dragon Age Inquisition is just an awfull game that didn't know how to handle romance right, with the exception of Harding, every single romance feel rushed, it feels like they want to give sex to the main character as soon as possible... talking about sex... Mass Effect is just a sex simulator now, the trailers are out and people are preoccupied with the appearence of the team, one of the comments from the trailers: 'There was a Bioware dev. meeting with fans two years before, in that meeting one SJW girl stood up and asked the developers to make the female characters literally ugly and 'thick'. Seems like Bioware took it to the heart."  when your game community attracts people with this type of thoughts... that is when you know you destroyed your game...

 

BUT, you have some games with great romance options, like Dragon Age Origins, I don't know about you guys but for me all of the romances in that game felt natural and, the most important, felt right towards the character personality.

 

TL;DR: It's important that the romance don't get in the way, that the best thing about the game is the combat, the lore or the story and not if you can bang someone or not... oh... by the way, Xoti is not beautiful to you? Why? Well... maybe it's because your culture is different. The culture of your country really dictates what you like and don't like.

Don't listen to the Witcher 3 stuff. The game is fantastic, easily the best modern rpg. I can't really fathom why some people would talk about banging girls in the game, there's really not much in it. There's just two romance options. I think there's one or two one-offs you can have in side-quests but I can't really remember all too well. It's a 100+ hour game so it's definetly not a focuss in the game by any stretch. The only reason why I can imagine some people having that conversation is because they didn't actually play the game and are still hung up on the cards from Witcher 1.

 

 

Counterpoint, the entire Witcher series is a terrible juvenile fantasy. Geralt is a terrible rip off character and the writing compares unfavorably with middle school fan fiction.

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As far as I know the Witcher series has two gay characters. In Witcher 2 a wizard betrays the good guys. He's subsequently show with a half-naked male slave, squeezing his pimples. The designers explicitly said they intended to make him as despicable as possible. His sexuality serves to make him even more disgusting to the presumed straight player, much in the same way bishonen and sissy villains were meant to do for decades. The wizard is killed but he can also be castrated for good measure. It is indeed one the most homophobic games of the last years.

 

In Witcher 3 Geralt can find a hunter in the wilderness. He is described as freak. If the player inquires the hunter will explain that he fell in love with the son of the local lord. Said lord caught them and the son killed himself. The lord became an alcoholic, his estate fell into ruin. And the hunter now lives in the wilderness alone because he is a social outcast. This is by no means a positive representation.

 

Ciri is an entirely different matter. While this was not the case 20 or 30 years ago, the current ideal of heterosexual masculinity dictates that straight men must think lesbians are hot. The reactions towards lesbian characters in games is nowhere anywhere near as negative as those toward gay characters.

 

When it is the only instance of a gay or bisexual male character in the entire game then looking at the scene in that light is completely justified. 

Obviously there is nothing wrong with having gay, bisexual or effeminate villains, but when they also happen to be the only male character who isn't straight then obviously that has really negative implications.

 

I get the feeling that if there was a game where the cast was almost all powerful female characters and the one male character was an evil, bumbling idiot you would be the first to point to his gender and call the game a shameless agenda-driven piece of work.

I can see why you would consider that Witcher 2 scene problematic. I don't agree with the interpretation that its makes some kind of message about gay characters. But I can see how you could interpret it that way. 

I strongly disagree about the story with the hunter in the Witcher 3, though. While it is true that that story doesn't end well for anyone, it is made abundantly clear that the cause of all the misery was the homophobia of the Lord and not the homosexuality of the hunter and the lords son. Everything was pretty happy with the hunter and the lord's son together, until the lord freaked out about his sons sexuality, then his son killed himself, the hunter got banished and the lord becomes a drunk. 

The causality of that story has a clear moral message and it is not "Though shall not lay with men".

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I wonder what kind of bizarre bubble one has to live in to that be the only thing you have heard about Witcher 3.

 

Or that Mass Effect is a  sex simulator. Weird.

 

Remember that Fox News special XD all that drama caused the rest of the ME games to stick with undies. So silly.

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Witcher series has ton of LGBT characters, some of them are quite major characters(like Ciri). Does that make CDPR part of the crusade as well?

 

Hell, in PoE 1 there is a lesbian companion, who openly states that she is attracted to woman, does that make Obsidian part of the crusade?

 

Or does it has to be a love interest to the protagonist to count? If that's the case I think Obsidian will be joining the crusade in a little more than a month.

 

As far as I know the Witcher series has two gay characters. In Witcher 2 a wizard betrays the good guys. He's subsequently show with a half-naked male slave, squeezing his pimples. The designers explicitly said they intended to make him as despicable as possible. His sexuality serves to make him even more disgusting to the presumed straight player, much in the same way bishonen and sissy villains were meant to do for decades. The wizard is killed but he can also be castrated for good measure. It is indeed one the most homophobic games of the last years.

 

In Witcher 3 Geralt can find a hunter in the wilderness. He is described as freak. If the player inquires the hunter will explain that he fell in love with the son of the local lord. Said lord caught them and the son killed himself. The lord became an alcoholic, his estate fell into ruin. And the hunter now lives in the wilderness alone because he is a social outcast. This is by no means a positive representation.

 

Ciri is an entirely different matter. While this was not the case 20 or 30 years ago, the current ideal of heterosexual masculinity dictates that straight men must think lesbians are hot. The reactions towards lesbian characters in games is nowhere anywhere near as negative as those toward gay characters.

 

 

I just watched that scene (search for 'uncle roche meets uncle dethmold').  I don't think it does that at all.

 

If it is meant to show him as a disgusting character it's because his slave is physically repulsive, and because his manner with the slave is repulsive, and also the slave's obedient manner is quite repulsive.  It has very little to do with the fact that his slave is male in my view.

 

Maybe you're the homophobe, because you're seeing a scene portraying two repulsive characters showing repulsive behaviour, and all you can fixate upon is the gender of the characters.  Presumably, if the slave had been female, you'd have had no problem with the scene?  What does that say about you?

 

Maybe it's the case that developers simply cannot have two repulsive males in a master/slave scenario because critics will instantly accuse the developer of using the slave's gender as a weapon.

 

You seek to shackle artistic creativity in the name of social responsibility, but I think it's a dishonest facade.

 

 

When it is the only instance of a gay or bisexual male character in the entire game then looking at the scene in that light is completely justified. 

 

Obviously there is nothing wrong with having gay, bisexual or effeminate villains, but when they also happen to be the only male character who isn't straight then obviously that has really negative implications.

 

I get the feeling that if there was a game where the cast was almost all powerful female characters and the one male character was an evil, bumbling idiot you would be the first to point to his gender and call the game a shameless agenda-driven piece of work.

 

 

> one male character was an evil, bumbling idiot

 

You mean almost every game ever made?

 

> was almost all powerful female characters and the one male character was an evil, bumbling idiot you would be the first to point to his gender and call the game a shameless agenda-driven piece of work.

 

No, I wouldn't.

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Witcher series has ton of LGBT characters, some of them are quite major characters(like Ciri). Does that make CDPR part of the crusade as well?

 

Hell, in PoE 1 there is a lesbian companion, who openly states that she is attracted to woman, does that make Obsidian part of the crusade?

 

Or does it has to be a love interest to the protagonist to count? If that's the case I think Obsidian will be joining the crusade in a little more than a month.

 

As far as I know the Witcher series has two gay characters. In Witcher 2 a wizard betrays the good guys. He's subsequently show with a half-naked male slave, squeezing his pimples. The designers explicitly said they intended to make him as despicable as possible. His sexuality serves to make him even more disgusting to the presumed straight player, much in the same way bishonen and sissy villains were meant to do for decades. The wizard is killed but he can also be castrated for good measure. It is indeed one the most homophobic games of the last years.

 

In Witcher 3 Geralt can find a hunter in the wilderness. He is described as freak. If the player inquires the hunter will explain that he fell in love with the son of the local lord. Said lord caught them and the son killed himself. The lord became an alcoholic, his estate fell into ruin. And the hunter now lives in the wilderness alone because he is a social outcast. This is by no means a positive representation.

 

Ciri is an entirely different matter. While this was not the case 20 or 30 years ago, the current ideal of heterosexual masculinity dictates that straight men must think lesbians are hot. The reactions towards lesbian characters in games is nowhere anywhere near as negative as those toward gay characters.

 

 

I just watched that scene (search for 'uncle roche meets uncle dethmold').  I don't think it does that at all.

 

If it is meant to show him as a disgusting character it's because his slave is physically repulsive, and because his manner with the slave is repulsive, and also the slave's obedient manner is quite repulsive.  It has very little to do with the fact that his slave is male in my view.

 

Maybe you're the homophobe, because you're seeing a scene portraying two repulsive characters showing repulsive behaviour, and all you can fixate upon is the gender of the characters.  Presumably, if the slave had been female, you'd have had no problem with the scene?  What does that say about you?

 

Maybe it's the case that developers simply cannot have two repulsive males in a master/slave scenario because critics will instantly accuse the developer of using the slave's gender as a weapon.

 

You seek to shackle artistic creativity in the name of social responsibility, but I think it's a dishonest facade.

 

 

When it is the only instance of a gay or bisexual male character in the entire game then looking at the scene in that light is completely justified. 

 

Obviously there is nothing wrong with having gay, bisexual or effeminate villains, but when they also happen to be the only male character who isn't straight then obviously that has really negative implications.

 

I get the feeling that if there was a game where the cast was almost all powerful female characters and the one male character was an evil, bumbling idiot you would be the first to point to his gender and call the game a shameless agenda-driven piece of work.

 

 

> When it is the only instance of a gay or bisexual male character in the entire game then looking at the scene in that light is completely justified. 

 

No it's not.

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Jesus this thread. I read like two pages after 20 and I was overwhelmed with the stupid. The idea that including a diverse cast of characters means you are advancing some heinous homosexual agenda or displaying homosexuals in a less than positive light means they are homophobic is bonkers to me. Everyone needs to stop getting their panties in a wad.  

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 I saw games getting ruined because of "romance" - if you think that romance is just sex...- and I saw games getting better because of it. I never played The Witcher 3 because everything that I hear from that game is, "which bitch shall I bang?" and that is it... Dragon Age Inquisition is just an awfull game that didn't know how to handle romance right, with the exception of Harding, every single romance feel rushed, it feels like they want to give sex to the main character as soon as possible... talking about sex... Mass Effect is just a sex simulator now, the trailers are out and people are preoccupied with the appearence of the team, one of the comments from the trailers: 'There was a Bioware dev. meeting with fans two years before, in that meeting one SJW girl stood up and asked the developers to make the female characters literally ugly and 'thick'. Seems like Bioware took it to the heart."  when your game community attracts people with this type of thoughts... that is when you know you destroyed your game...

 

BUT, you have some games with great romance options, like Dragon Age Origins, I don't know about you guys but for me all of the romances in that game felt natural and, the most important, felt right towards the character personality.

 

TL;DR: It's important that the romance don't get in the way, that the best thing about the game is the combat, the lore or the story and not if you can bang someone or not... oh... by the way, Xoti is not beautiful to you? Why? Well... maybe it's because your culture is different. The culture of your country really dictates what you like and don't like.

Don't listen to the Witcher 3 stuff. The game is fantastic, easily the best modern rpg. I can't really fathom why some people would talk about banging girls in the game, there's really not much in it. There's just two romance options. I think there's one or two one-offs you can have in side-quests but I can't really remember all too well. It's a 100+ hour game so it's definetly not a focuss in the game by any stretch. The only reason why I can imagine some people having that conversation is because they didn't actually play the game and are still hung up on the cards from Witcher 1.

 

Because lots of people didn't play Witcher 3, they 'like' it because "Ohh pretty ladies and I get to decide which one I should bang", Same goes for the hate with DA:I: "All the female characters looks like **** and all the males are gay!".

 

They don't know much about these games other than the memes.

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Ironically Ciri wasn't gay in the books, just raped by someone that was.

Also Beyond the Sea forgot about Philippa. And Geralt has nothing to do with Elric, please stop spreading this stupid meme Moor****.

EDIT: I can't spell the author's name because part of it is also the word for a male chicken which is coincidentally used as a synonym for **** in colloquial English. But I can say "raped". Good going word filter.

EDIT of the EDIT: I also can't use totally neutral medical terminology to describe a component of the male reproductive system. I guess that pretty much sums up the thread. Americans are ****ing weird about sex.

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I saw games getting ruined because of "romance" - if you think that romance is just sex...- and I saw games getting better because of it. I never played The Witcher 3 because everything that I hear from that game is, "which bitch shall I bang?" and that is it... Dragon Age Inquisition is just an awfull game that didn't know how to handle romance right, with the exception of Harding, every single romance feel rushed, it feels like they want to give sex to the main character as soon as possible... talking about sex... Mass Effect is just a sex simulator now, the trailers are out and people are preoccupied with the appearence of the team, one of the comments from the trailers: 'There was a Bioware dev. meeting with fans two years before, in that meeting one SJW girl stood up and asked the developers to make the female characters literally ugly and 'thick'. Seems like Bioware took it to the heart." when your game community attracts people with this type of thoughts... that is when you know you destroyed your game...

 

BUT, you have some games with great romance options, like Dragon Age Origins, I don't know about you guys but for me all of the romances in that game felt natural and, the most important, felt right towards the character personality.

 

TL;DR: It's important that the romance don't get in the way, that the best thing about the game is the combat, the lore or the story and not if you can bang someone or not... oh... by the way, Xoti is not beautiful to you? Why? Well... maybe it's because your culture is different. The culture of your country really dictates what you like and don't like.

Don't listen to the Witcher 3 stuff. The game is fantastic, easily the best modern rpg. I can't really fathom why some people would talk about banging girls in the game, there's really not much in it. There's just two romance options. I think there's one or two one-offs you can have in side-quests but I can't really remember all too well. It's a 100+ hour game so it's definetly not a focuss in the game by any stretch. The only reason why I can imagine some people having that conversation is because they didn't actually play the game and are still hung up on the cards from Witcher 1.

Because lots of people didn't play Witcher 3, they 'like' it because "Ohh pretty ladies and I get to decide which one I should bang", Same goes for the hate with DA:I: "All the female characters looks like **** and all the males are gay!".

 

They don't know much about these games other than the memes.

I sank enough hours into DA:I to know that it's a **** game, and not just cos the female characters look like ass.

 

But there you go again constructing straw men so you can tidily put all criticism of the game into a box.

 

Witcher 3 isn't even all that good either, frankly. Overrated, even. (And I say that as someone who's completed Witcher 2 twice)

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I saw games getting ruined because of "romance" - if you think that romance is just sex...- and I saw games getting better because of it. I never played The Witcher 3 because everything that I hear from that game is, "which bitch shall I bang?" and that is it... Dragon Age Inquisition is just an awfull game that didn't know how to handle romance right, with the exception of Harding, every single romance feel rushed, it feels like they want to give sex to the main character as soon as possible... talking about sex... Mass Effect is just a sex simulator now, the trailers are out and people are preoccupied with the appearence of the team, one of the comments from the trailers: 'There was a Bioware dev. meeting with fans two years before, in that meeting one SJW girl stood up and asked the developers to make the female characters literally ugly and 'thick'. Seems like Bioware took it to the heart." when your game community attracts people with this type of thoughts... that is when you know you destroyed your game...

 

BUT, you have some games with great romance options, like Dragon Age Origins, I don't know about you guys but for me all of the romances in that game felt natural and, the most important, felt right towards the character personality.

 

TL;DR: It's important that the romance don't get in the way, that the best thing about the game is the combat, the lore or the story and not if you can bang someone or not... oh... by the way, Xoti is not beautiful to you? Why? Well... maybe it's because your culture is different. The culture of your country really dictates what you like and don't like.

Don't listen to the Witcher 3 stuff. The game is fantastic, easily the best modern rpg. I can't really fathom why some people would talk about banging girls in the game, there's really not much in it. There's just two romance options. I think there's one or two one-offs you can have in side-quests but I can't really remember all too well. It's a 100+ hour game so it's definetly not a focuss in the game by any stretch. The only reason why I can imagine some people having that conversation is because they didn't actually play the game and are still hung up on the cards from Witcher 1.
Because lots of people didn't play Witcher 3, they 'like' it because "Ohh pretty ladies and I get to decide which one I should bang", Same goes for the hate with DA:I: "All the female characters looks like **** and all the males are gay!".

 

They don't know much about these games other than the memes.

I sank enough hours into DA:I to know that it's a **** game, and not just cos the female characters look like ass.

 

But there you go again constructing straw men so you can tidily put all criticism of the game into a box.

 

Witcher 3 isn't even all that good either, frankly. Overrated, even. (And I say that as someone who's completed Witcher 2 twice)

 

 

lmao Josephine and Cassandra look like ass? (And we're not even touching the unromancables because anyone who seriously thinks super model like Vivienne is ugly is clearly blind).

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I saw games getting ruined because of "romance" - if you think that romance is just sex...- and I saw games getting better because of it. I never played The Witcher 3 because everything that I hear from that game is, "which bitch shall I bang?" and that is it... Dragon Age Inquisition is just an awfull game that didn't know how to handle romance right, with the exception of Harding, every single romance feel rushed, it feels like they want to give sex to the main character as soon as possible... talking about sex... Mass Effect is just a sex simulator now, the trailers are out and people are preoccupied with the appearence of the team, one of the comments from the trailers: 'There was a Bioware dev. meeting with fans two years before, in that meeting one SJW girl stood up and asked the developers to make the female characters literally ugly and 'thick'. Seems like Bioware took it to the heart." when your game community attracts people with this type of thoughts... that is when you know you destroyed your game...

 

BUT, you have some games with great romance options, like Dragon Age Origins, I don't know about you guys but for me all of the romances in that game felt natural and, the most important, felt right towards the character personality.

 

TL;DR: It's important that the romance don't get in the way, that the best thing about the game is the combat, the lore or the story and not if you can bang someone or not... oh... by the way, Xoti is not beautiful to you? Why? Well... maybe it's because your culture is different. The culture of your country really dictates what you like and don't like.

Don't listen to the Witcher 3 stuff. The game is fantastic, easily the best modern rpg. I can't really fathom why some people would talk about banging girls in the game, there's really not much in it. There's just two romance options. I think there's one or two one-offs you can have in side-quests but I can't really remember all too well. It's a 100+ hour game so it's definetly not a focuss in the game by any stretch. The only reason why I can imagine some people having that conversation is because they didn't actually play the game and are still hung up on the cards from Witcher 1.
Because lots of people didn't play Witcher 3, they 'like' it because "Ohh pretty ladies and I get to decide which one I should bang", Same goes for the hate with DA:I: "All the female characters looks like **** and all the males are gay!".

 

They don't know much about these games other than the memes.

I sank enough hours into DA:I to know that it's a **** game, and not just cos the female characters look like ass.

 

But there you go again constructing straw men so you can tidily put all criticism of the game into a box.

 

Witcher 3 isn't even all that good either, frankly. Overrated, even. (And I say that as someone who's completed Witcher 2 twice)

lmao Josephine and Cassandra look like ass? (And we're not even touching the unromancables because anyone who seriously thinks super model like Vivienne is ugly is clearly blind).
Yeah, pretty much.

 

Josephine:

 

https://goo.gl/images/KRL2Xo

 

Looks like a car crash victim. And she's frigid.

 

Cassandra:

 

https://goo.gl/images/Hazwi9

 

Cassandra isn't quite ugly, but she's incredibly butch. And she loses points for being a humourless zealot. I'd sooner romance Varric than put up with her incessant whining.

 

Vivienne isn't a romance option.

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I saw games getting ruined because of "romance" - if you think that romance is just sex...- and I saw games getting better because of it. I never played The Witcher 3 because everything that I hear from that game is, "which bitch shall I bang?" and that is it... Dragon Age Inquisition is just an awfull game that didn't know how to handle romance right, with the exception of Harding, every single romance feel rushed, it feels like they want to give sex to the main character as soon as possible... talking about sex... Mass Effect is just a sex simulator now, the trailers are out and people are preoccupied with the appearence of the team, one of the comments from the trailers: 'There was a Bioware dev. meeting with fans two years before, in that meeting one SJW girl stood up and asked the developers to make the female characters literally ugly and 'thick'. Seems like Bioware took it to the heart." when your game community attracts people with this type of thoughts... that is when you know you destroyed your game...

 

BUT, you have some games with great romance options, like Dragon Age Origins, I don't know about you guys but for me all of the romances in that game felt natural and, the most important, felt right towards the character personality.

 

TL;DR: It's important that the romance don't get in the way, that the best thing about the game is the combat, the lore or the story and not if you can bang someone or not... oh... by the way, Xoti is not beautiful to you? Why? Well... maybe it's because your culture is different. The culture of your country really dictates what you like and don't like.

Don't listen to the Witcher 3 stuff. The game is fantastic, easily the best modern rpg. I can't really fathom why some people would talk about banging girls in the game, there's really not much in it. There's just two romance options. I think there's one or two one-offs you can have in side-quests but I can't really remember all too well. It's a 100+ hour game so it's definetly not a focuss in the game by any stretch. The only reason why I can imagine some people having that conversation is because they didn't actually play the game and are still hung up on the cards from Witcher 1.
Because lots of people didn't play Witcher 3, they 'like' it because "Ohh pretty ladies and I get to decide which one I should bang", Same goes for the hate with DA:I: "All the female characters looks like **** and all the males are gay!".

 

They don't know much about these games other than the memes.

I sank enough hours into DA:I to know that it's a **** game, and not just cos the female characters look like ass.

 

But there you go again constructing straw men so you can tidily put all criticism of the game into a box.

 

Witcher 3 isn't even all that good either, frankly. Overrated, even. (And I say that as someone who's completed Witcher 2 twice)

lmao Josephine and Cassandra look like ass? (And we're not even touching the unromancables because anyone who seriously thinks super model like Vivienne is ugly is clearly blind).
Yeah, pretty much.

 

Josephine:

 

https://goo.gl/images/KRL2Xo

 

Looks like a car crash victim. And she's frigid.

 

Cassandra:

 

https://goo.gl/images/Hazwi9

 

Cassandra isn't quite ugly, but she's incredibly butch. And she loses points for being a humourless zealot. I'd sooner romance Varric than put up with her incessant whining.

 

Vivienne isn't a romance option.

 

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looks like a car crash victim? lmao what universe do you live in sounds like fun. As for frigid as someone who did her romance not at all. Her romance scene doesn't end in sex like the rest because the devs admit it ruined the mood of the scene. (Granted she does look derpy if you screenshot her in the middle of talking but that's a thing with a lot of DAI faces including the protagonist).

 

Also Cassandra isn't ugly at all either. You disliking her personality is a completely separate matter from her looks. Now they may not be what you prefer for your partner to look like that's fair enough but saying they're ugly is laughable. I don't prefer beards but saying Blackwall is ugly? It's not true. (Really if you remove that beard and the gauntness that comes from the beards in Inquisition he's pretty damn attractive.) The only LI you can really get away with calling ugly would be Bull. Solas maybe but even he looks fine.

 

The more I think about it the only LI in a BW game that's not at least passable (let alone ugly) would be Bull and he's all scarred up. (and his head is waaaay too small in proportion to his body. Not sure what's going on there).

 

There's no reason to say blatantly and obviously untrue things like they're ugly. Just say the LIs weren't to your preference. If you want the devs to make LIs that meet your preferences just say so. There's no need to claim things like the current LIs are hideous or crash victims or any other overly exaggerated nonsense.

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Why single out the women? Everyone is ugly in DA:I. The facial proportions are weird and everyone seems to be excreting a thick sheen of oil.

Not really:

 

https://goo.gl/images/R4p1zL

 

Cullen is a stereotypical chiselled adonis with a jaw so wide and square you could use it as a house foundation.

 

Blackwall isn't too bad but that beard makes him look like he's got Cthulhu growing on his chin.

 

Dorian is fabulous. Solas, not sure about him.

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