The US Election, Part XI

[Wrath of Dagon]

 

I have heard various theories but yesterday I watched an interview with a US statistics professor and he explained what went wrong with the polling in the USA. His view makes the most sense 

 

Basically he explained it was all about the inaccurate  view around what constituted  the margin of error in the polling outcomes. When people were polled throughout the USA only the majority of Democrats responded who they were voting for, most Republican supporters refused to respond to the pollsters. So the majority of data gathered was an honest reflection of voting patterns but ONLY for Democrat supporters 

 

There wasnt enough Republican data and if there was it would been obvious how the Republicans were actually stronger in certain key battleground and swing states....predictions would have been very different from all  media houses 

 

You can  only really address this if all members of all parties participate  in polls and provide honest answers. If this is not done then the polls will continue to be potentially inaccurate

Yes but have you wondered what caused the 'shy Trump voter' effect?

If Trump supporters refuse to answer polls or pretend to be undecided then there must be reason for it and frankly I think most of it lies with the media. 

Apparently women and minorities were big part of the statistical error and I'd say they were ashamed to admit they were voting for a man labeled a misogynist and a racist.

 

The biggest problem with polls is that to be meaningful they have to poll likely voters, not all voters. But to do that they need a turn-out model. The turn-out models are not very scientific, there is a lot of guesswork and black magic. Which means the polls themselves can easily be wrong if the turn-out models they use have errors, especially when there are a lot of first time voter involved and people vote for the other party. And after all, the national polls did turn out to be fairly accurate, but it's hard to detect very close margins by which Trump won the blue states.

[Darkpriest]

Liberal Peace and Love in ACTION: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Glu3WgQ4Qw

 

well to be honest at least he gave a middle finger to all

[Meshugger]

 

 

We absolutely need Dave Chappelle back on television. America is counting on him.

 

 

How are things going for you Dave?

Edited November 14, 2016 by Meshugger

[Namutree]

WHY DID YOU ABANDON US DAVE!!!??? WHY!!!???

 

Was it because the masses didn't appreciate the Hater's Ball??? 

[HoonDing]

"Liberal Peace and Love in ACTION:

"

 

[Guard Dog]

It was very funny... until it wasn't

 

https://youtu.be/zT0Rjc6jKCg

 

 

https://youtu.be/FliGdEGBoIw

[BruceVC]

 

 

Now here are some realistic and optimistic words around the future of the USA and its from Warren Buffett

 

I agree with almost everything he says 

[Oner]

There was a new John Oliver video about Trump, which got promptly set to private, then removed, then reuploads by others quickly get flagged with copyright claims. Anyone know what's up with that?

[Azdeus]

There was a new John Oliver video about Trump, which got promptly set to private, then removed, then reuploads by others quickly get flagged with copyright claims. Anyone know what's up with that?

 

I can see it there on their channel, but it's been blocked for Sweden for some reason.

[Oner]

Right, my bad. It wasn't set to private, it was blocked for Germany as well.

 

Ed: typo

Edited November 14, 2016 by Oner

[Guard Dog]

 

 

Now here are some realistic and optimistic words around the future of the USA and its from Warren Buffett

 

I agree with almost everything he says 

Maybe you are starting to realize the outcome of a US Presidential election is not as important as it's made out to be.

[Guard Dog]

[Wrath of Dagon]

 

Now here are some realistic and optimistic words around the future of the USA and its from Warren Buffett

 

I agree with almost everything he says 

Maybe you are starting to realize the outcome of a US Presidential election is not as important as it's made out to be.

 

If Buffett says it it must be so. If this election turns out not to be important, then the Republicans are the most useless party in the history of the world.

 

Edit: And may be they are: https://spectator.org/nuke-em-priming-the-senate-for-necessary-action/ I thought Republicans didn't believe in unilateral disarmament.

Edited November 14, 2016 by Wrath of Dagon

[Agiel]

Well, I can't say this is particularly heartening:

 

[Pidesco]

 

 

I didn't write this but I thought it was perfect:

 

It's like a rock paper scissors of jerks.

Or a logic puzzle.

Donald Trump needs to get across the river in a canoe with his staff. The canoe only holds Trump and two people. His staff are a homophobic woman, a racist homosexual and a misogynist black man. When Trump is not present, those with hateful tendencies will act on them. How does Trump get his staff across the river?

[Meshugger]

Poor Trump, he can't even pick the right kind of oppressed or minorities to his team. 

[Wrath of Dagon]

Just out of curiosity, how's Thiel a racist?

 

If China isn't going to restrain its mad dog, then it's high time both Japan and S Korea had nuclear arms. Why should they believe we'd get into a nuclear war for them?

[Fighter]

Didn't you hear? Peter Thiel is not gay. Because just like racism is prejudice + power. Gay is homosexuality + progressive politics.

 

Get up to date on your correct definitions.

Edited November 14, 2016 by Fighter

[aluminiumtrioxid]

Didn't you hear? Peter Thiel is not gay. Because just like racism is prejudice + power. Gay is homosexuality + progressive politics.

 

Get up to date on your correct definitions.

 

Well this certainly shows how far we've come.

[Meshugger]

"Congratulations America, you put GamerGate into the White House"

 

https://twitter.com/sarahjeong/status/798019322622844928

 

xD

[Fighter]

"Congratulations America, you put GamerGate into the White House"

 

https://twitter.com/sarahjeong/status/798019322622844928

 

xD

 

So basically.

 

 

EDIT: LMAO! This song is apparently in Saints Row.

 

Edited November 14, 2016 by Fighter

[Wrath of Dagon]

So there you go, defending Western values and being against multi-culti makes you a white supremacist:

a movement often associated with white supremacist ideas that oppose multiculturalism and defend “Western values.”

http://www.breitbart.com/news/trump-considering-woman-openly-gay-man-for-leadership-posts/ Very alinskiite, even popularized a new term no one ever heard before the election.

[Zoraptor]

Just out of curiosity, how's Thiel a racist?

 

"He supported Hogan who called his daughter's boyfriend the n word. Plus he supports Trump who is racist, sexist and homophobic which means he can't be gay and must hate women as well as hating pocs. He also hates free speech because he and Hogan [plus the jury that awarded Hogan more than he asked for] put Gawker out of business and media should be protected [when targeting those I dislike]. He's alt right [gak] and just a horrible rich white guy whose policies would target the poor who include a lot of pocs"

 

Slight paraphrasing, of course, but I've seen all those 'arguments' made.

 

My response would normally be an eye roll and quote of Cicero's devastatingly casual response 'narratus tepidarius frater' which so infuriated Mark Anthony, if it weren't so emblematic of everything that went wrong on the 'progressive' side. Hypocritical, unappealing to anyone who isn't already convinced yet appears to be effective because the only opinions valued by those saying it are people who already agree with them. As someone who actually is pretty left it's about the most stupid tactic I can imagine, it's already failed and continuing use of it just suggests that lessons will not be learned.

[Meshugger]

The narrative has been set:

 

https://twitter.com/WDFx2EU8/status/798050268688437248

 

People are calling for a bloody revolution.

[Malcador]

Ah, Twitter.