Republican Presidential Debate

[Wrath of Dagon]

Did he ever? Dismissal is so much easier than actually defending your position.

 

Edit: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/396098/islamophobia-myth-brendan-oneill It's not just European elites.

 

Edit2: More on the Republican civil war: https://ricochet.com/david-frum-and-the-great-republican-revolt/

Edited December 23, 2015 by Wrath of Dagon

[Namutree]

 

This was a pretty good story:

 

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Society/2015/1221/US-troops-to-American-Muslim-child-iwillprotectyou-video

"In 2008, ABC asked two actors to play the role of an unwelcoming shop keeper and a Muslim customer in a Waco, Texas, bakery. Over and over, the female actor would enter and attempt to order a pastry; over and over, the man posing as the sales clerk insulted her faith and refused to serve her." The media has to stage anti-Muslim incidents because they can't find any in real life.

 

I think maybe you missed the point of that.

[Wrath of Dagon]

No, I got the point the article was trying to make, but it actually made a different point as I pointed out. See my first link above.

[Guard Dog]

A little OT but the Washington Post runs a cartoon that suggests Ted Cruz's 8 & 10 year old daughters are just trained monkeys. The head of the ACLU says Donald Trump supporters should be kiled. A staffer for Congressamn Andre Casron says Trump should be taken out with a headshot. All that is ok. Trump makes a comment about Hillary using a made up word and the (liberal) media goes bat s--t. Just another day in crazyland.

[Elerond]

You mean that ACLU of Colorado voluntary board member that was forced to resigns after their comments in facebook? And how ACLU's accrual leaders had to apologize said comments?

[Enoch]

A little OT but the Washington Post runs a cartoon that suggests Ted Cruz's 8 & 10 year old daughters are just trained monkeys. The head of the ACLU says Donald Trump supporters should be kiled. A staffer for Congressamn Andre Casron says Trump should be taken out with a headshot. All that is ok. Trump makes a comment about Hillary using a made up word and the (liberal) media goes bat s--t. Just another day in crazyland.

You don't think things are slightly more newsworthy when they come from the mouth of a person who is trying to become the leader of the free world than they are when they come from a cartoonist, an advocacy group, or a congressional staffer? 

[Guard Dog]

 

A little OT but the Washington Post runs a cartoon that suggests Ted Cruz's 8 & 10 year old daughters are just trained monkeys. The head of the ACLU says Donald Trump supporters should be kiled. A staffer for Congressamn Andre Casron says Trump should be taken out with a headshot. All that is ok. Trump makes a comment about Hillary using a made up word and the (liberal) media goes bat s--t. Just another day in crazyland.

You don't think things are slightly more newsworthy when they come from the mouth of a person who is trying to become the leader of the free world than they are when they come from a cartoonist, an advocacy group, or a congressional staffer? 

 

If I actually took Trump seriously maybe. I keep thinking we'll wake up tomorrow and he's still on the Apprentice and this was all a silly dream. But if he fools around and actually get's elected.... well we'll all be screwed but at least it will be entertaining. Say, that might make a good campaign slogan for him.

 

But that cartoon the Washington Post ran was pretty low, even for that rag. And the cartoonist doubled down on it. If I were on the Pulitzer committee I'd be on the phone asking her to return hers.

[Darkpriest]

I guess people like Trump will be getting attention and support as long as absurd things like this exist:

 

http://news.yahoo.com/video/anti-politically-correct-signs-draw-160107557.html

[Elerond]

 

 

A little OT but the Washington Post runs a cartoon that suggests Ted Cruz's 8 & 10 year old daughters are just trained monkeys. The head of the ACLU says Donald Trump supporters should be kiled. A staffer for Congressamn Andre Casron says Trump should be taken out with a headshot. All that is ok. Trump makes a comment about Hillary using a made up word and the (liberal) media goes bat s--t. Just another day in crazyland.

You don't think things are slightly more newsworthy when they come from the mouth of a person who is trying to become the leader of the free world than they are when they come from a cartoonist, an advocacy group, or a congressional staffer? 

 

If I actually took Trump seriously maybe. I keep thinking we'll wake up tomorrow and he's still on the Apprentice and this was all a silly dream. But if he fools around and actually get's elected.... well we'll all be screwed but at least it will be entertaining. Say, that might make a good campaign slogan for him.

 

But that cartoon the Washington Post ran was pretty low, even for that rag. And the cartoonist doubled down on it. If I were on the Pulitzer committee I'd be on the phone asking her to return hers.

 

 

It seems that it was WP's editor that doubled down not the cartoonist and journalist from post seem to think they both are idiots because they just helped Cruz's campaign instead of doing something useful.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/12/23/why-that-now-retracted-washington-post-cartoon-is-a-gift-to-ted-cruz/

[Guard Dog]

I guess people like Trump will be getting attention and support as long as absurd things like this exist:

 

http://news.yahoo.com/video/anti-politically-correct-signs-draw-160107557.html

Why is that absurd? It's kind of hard to argue the PC thing is leaning a little to close to "thought police" for comfort. Besides, what if the food sucks? Now he's going to get traffic just for his sign. There really is no such thing as bad advertising.

Edited December 23, 2015 by Guard Dog

[Guard Dog]

 

 

 

A little OT but the Washington Post runs a cartoon that suggests Ted Cruz's 8 & 10 year old daughters are just trained monkeys. The head of the ACLU says Donald Trump supporters should be kiled. A staffer for Congressamn Andre Casron says Trump should be taken out with a headshot. All that is ok. Trump makes a comment about Hillary using a made up word and the (liberal) media goes bat s--t. Just another day in crazyland.

You don't think things are slightly more newsworthy when they come from the mouth of a person who is trying to become the leader of the free world than they are when they come from a cartoonist, an advocacy group, or a congressional staffer? 

 

If I actually took Trump seriously maybe. I keep thinking we'll wake up tomorrow and he's still on the Apprentice and this was all a silly dream. But if he fools around and actually get's elected.... well we'll all be screwed but at least it will be entertaining. Say, that might make a good campaign slogan for him.

 

But that cartoon the Washington Post ran was pretty low, even for that rag. And the cartoonist doubled down on it. If I were on the Pulitzer committee I'd be on the phone asking her to return hers.

 

 

It seems that it was WP's editor that doubled down not the cartoonist and journalist from post seem to think they both are idiots because they just helped Cruz's campaign instead of doing something useful.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/12/23/why-that-now-retracted-washington-post-cartoon-is-a-gift-to-ted-cruz/

 

Well I will agree with you on that point. If Cruz is still looking to cast the media as a villain the best thing they can do for him is BE a villain. But to be fair there is very little unbiased media in the US today and the Washington Post is well left of center line. 

[Wrath of Dagon]

Trump apologized saying he meant Hillary got screwed and that she sucks.

[ShadySands]

Rand Paul airs his grievances for Festivus

Today's special ‘Festivus: Airing of Grievances for 2015’ edition of ‘The Waste Report' highlights over 30 examples of wasteful spending, misplaced priorities, and bad management in the federal government that have cost the taxpayer more than one billion dollars. Of the 31 examples amassed from the past year, a few high-points of the ‘The Waste Report’ include: an $850,000 foreign made-for-TV cricket league in Afghanistan, a $150,000 federal government agency yoga classes, a $450,000 climate change video game, a $250,000 trip for Pakistani children to attend Space Camp and Dollywood in the U.S., and a $104 million subsidization for millionaires to live in public housing.

[Wrath of Dagon]

Cruz reproduces the vile cartoon of his daughters in his fundraising e-mail. The guy is really an opportunist's opportunist.

 

Edit: NPR used the same word Trump is being criticized for : http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2015/12/23/npr-used-schlonged-to-describe-geraldine-ferraro-in-2011/

Edited December 24, 2015 by Wrath of Dagon

[ShadySands]

It's been publicly used once before but I don't think it matters since people are pretty decisively split on trump and I really doubt there are many people on the fence and thinking I would support him if he just didn't say that "one" thing 

[Zoraptor]

 

Rand Paul airs his grievances for Festivus

..an $850,000 foreign made-for-TV cricket league in Afghanistan..

 

 

..was money very well spent. If there's one thing that practically guarantees that Pakistan will never have a genuinely Taleban like government it's their love for cricket and the knowledge that those killjoys would want to get rid of it due to it 'competing' with religion; getting the same sort of mania going in Afghanistan would work wonders and many of the refugees in Pakistan had already picked up their love of the game. The Afghans not only qualified for the Cricket World Cup but actually won a game there (sadly the numpties in charge of the game promptly changed the rules to exclude all the minnow nations, but that's besides the point). Better value than half an F-35 wing or an Osprey rotor or whatever 850k would be spent on otherwise.

 

(lol 38 page pdf on a page with a borked script? thanks for the present Rand, you really shouldn't have)

[Calax]

 

 

Rand Paul airs his grievances for Festivus

..an $850,000 foreign made-for-TV cricket league in Afghanistan..

 

 

..was money very well spent. If there's one thing that practically guarantees that Pakistan will never have a genuinely Taleban like government it's their love for cricket and the knowledge that those killjoys would want to get rid of it due to it 'competing' with religion; getting the same sort of mania going in Afghanistan would work wonders and many of the refugees in Pakistan had already picked up their love of the game. The Afghans not only qualified for the Cricket World Cup but actually won a game there (sadly the numpties in charge of the game promptly changed the rules to exclude all the minnow nations, but that's besides the point). Better value than half an F-35 wing or an Osprey rotor or whatever 850k would be spent on otherwise.

 

(lol 38 page pdf on a page with a borked script? thanks for the present Rand, you really shouldn't have)

 

a Propeller blade on the USS Ronald Reagan?

[Hurlshort]

Of course, there are some things that are worth spending government money on, and should not be a matter of political party.

 

[Bartimaeus]

Context?

[PK htiw klaw eriF]

Context?

9/11 first responders. They gave a lot of health problems due to breathing in stuff and a lot were unable to pay for health care to properly treat it.

[kgambit]

 

a Propeller blade on the USS Ronald Reagan?

 

 

You mean one of these?

 

 

What's the problem exactly?  Did the Navy order one made out of glass, gold plated or the wrong size? 

Edited December 24, 2015 by kgambit

[Raithe]

[Wrath of Dagon]

If you keep voting for the same politicians, you'll keep getting the same results.

[Enoch]

If you keep voting for the same politicians, you'll keep getting the same results.

 

Yep.  Over 2 centuries of stable representative democracy, the last 75 years of which as the global economic, military, and cultural hegemon. 

[Wrath of Dagon]

It's great times for your employer, no doubt. The rest of us not so much.

Edited December 24, 2015 by Wrath of Dagon