Democalypse 2016

[Meshugger]

Seems to be the smoking gun that our government abandoned our people in Benghazi :

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/12/08/spinning-up-as-speak-email-shows-pentagon-was-ready-to-roll-as-benghazi-attack/

 

Benghazi committee says they had the e-mail, but they never asked Hilzilla about it. What's going on here exactly?​

 

I do not know the exact details about Benghazi except for the Obama administration ****ing it up due to negliegence. However, the what i want to emphasize is that the hearings and investigations have already gone through the manufactured consent process. Meaning that even if the truth is that there's something wrong there and people did things the wrong way based on the wrong data, it now requires something direct that pierces through it all for it to have any effect in the public eye.

 

Meaning a hosue committe unanimously declaring Clinton to stand trial for treason or there is a document, with witnesses, where she explicitly says to the embassy to go **** themselves.

 

My 2 cents.

[Leferd]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKXGA-AU50w&feature=youtu.be

 

Dubya entering the race.

[Meshugger]

Hai guyse.

 

Wanna know about the Clinton Foundation? The records have been released and here's a commentary about it: http://harpers.org/blog/2015/11/shaky-foundations/

[Wrath of Dagon]

As sleazy as all of this is, it won't affect the Hilbots. Anyway they don't have an alternative. However, now that it's been shown that e-mails on her private server were top secret, I don't see how she avoids FBI recommending charges, even if Obola's weaponized politicized Justice Department squashes them.

[Calax]

As sleazy as all of this is, it won't affect the Hilbots. Anyway they don't have an alternative. However, now that it's been shown that e-mails on her private server were top secret, I don't see how she avoids FBI recommending charges, even if Obola's weaponized politicized Justice Department squashes them.

Same way Bush and Cheney avoided

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bush_White_House_email_controversy

 

You know, where the White house was using a non Governmental email server to move their mail instead of the one that was secured as part of the White House?

[Wrath of Dagon]

It may have been a violation of the Presidential Records Act, but unless the e-mails were classified it wouldn't be a violation of the Espionage Act.

[Calax]

There were over 20 million emails missing from extremely high level members of the government. There HAS to have been classified info in those.

[Guard Dog]

And we continue to slouch our way to dictatorship: http://www.wsj.com/articles/clinton-is-already-vowing-to-overreach-1450307191

[Meshugger]

Bernie's done: http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/dec/18/democrats-punish-bernie-sanders-campaign-following-clinton-data-breach

 

It's Hillary then. Strange how history repeats itself with "outside" people sounding rational and adressing the core issues, just look no further than to what happened to Ron Paul to see what i am talking about.

Edited December 18, 2015 by Meshugger

[BruceVC]

Bernie's done: http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/dec/18/democrats-punish-bernie-sanders-campaign-following-clinton-data-breach

 

It's Hillary then. Strange how history repeats itself with "outside" people sounding rational and adressing the core issues, just look no further than to what happened to Ron Paul to see what i am talking about.

No its not strange, its exactly as I called it

 

I wish I could say its because I am so insightful but the reality is sometimes stranger than fiction. I am more excited to see if I'm  right about the overall election result as that would confirm my view around how the American minority groups influence overall results....now then I would share some pertinent information about appealing to these groups 

[PK htiw klaw eriF]

Bernie's done: http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/dec/18/democrats-punish-bernie-sanders-campaign-following-clinton-data-breach

 

It's Hillary then. Strange how history repeats itself with "outside" people sounding rational and adressing the core issues, just look no further than to what happened to Ron Paul to see what i am talking about.

A "glitch" huh? Sounds really fishy to me.

[PK htiw klaw eriF]

Bernie sues the DNC

[Guard Dog]

I think Bernie should tell the DNC to go f--k themselves and mount a 3rd party run. The DNC is only going to permit Hillary to win so he's wasting his time anyway. Run as an independent Bernie, it's the best thing you can do for your country!

[Vaeliorin]

I think Bernie should tell the DNC to go f--k themselves and mount a 3rd party run. The DNC is only going to permit Hillary to win so he's wasting his time anyway. Run as an independent Bernie, it's the best thing you can do for your country!

Man, that would be interesting. Imagine Bernie and Trump both running independently with Hillary and whoever the Republicans pick. I've got to admit, I can't recall what exactly happens if no one gets a majority in the electoral college (it simply has never seemed like a real possibility in my lifetime, so if I ever knew it was just for a test in school) but it would be interesting.

 

It would still be 4 bad choices, but it would be interesting.

[ShadySands]

I think Bernie should tell the DNC to go f--k themselves and mount a 3rd party run. The DNC is only going to permit Hillary to win so he's wasting his time anyway. Run as an independent Bernie, it's the best thing you can do for your country!

 

I know what you're trying to do here

[BruceVC]

Bernie sues the DNC

Mmmmm....so much for the hardcore socialist values

 

Guys its fate, Clinton is obviously the choice  

[BruceVC]

I think Bernie should tell the DNC to go f--k themselves and mount a 3rd party run. The DNC is only going to permit Hillary to win so he's wasting his time anyway. Run as an independent Bernie, it's the best thing you can do for your country!

GD I know you take politics seriously but lets be realistic ....Clinton will win

 

Don't you think you should start to get  use to respect her ...I mean if she is president. I assume you guys respect the office?

 

I would be also frustrated by Trump...but he is more a symptom of the Republicans  failure to install real confidence. Lets not blame the Democrats for having a logical structure and appeal. I have said this before but the Republicans have almost lost there identity

 

And yes they need to stop offending minorities and coming across so conservative....it can't be that hard ?

[Bartimaeus]

Man, that would be interesting. Imagine Bernie and Trump both running independently with Hillary and whoever the Republicans pick. I've got to admit, I can't recall what exactly happens if no one gets a majority in the electoral college (it simply has never seemed like a real possibility in my lifetime, so if I ever knew it was just for a test in school) but it would be interesting.

 

As I recall, the House of Representatives directly chooses who will become president in the event where no individual candidate gathers whatever number of electoral votes are required these days for a majority. I think it's only happened once in American history, but I could be mistaken.

[Orogun01]

I think Bernie should tell the DNC to go f--k themselves and mount a 3rd party run. The DNC is only going to permit Hillary to win so he's wasting his time anyway. Run as an independent Bernie, it's the best thing you can do for your country!

Third parties don't usually work because the average american isn't really aware of the issues and just like everything else in this country their opinions amount to what information have they been bombarded with. At best they realize that they're in over their head and don't know enough to make an informed choice at worst they dive headfirst into the wrong one because the media has told them that its the best one(Hillary 2016)

[Guard Dog]

 

I think Bernie should tell the DNC to go f--k themselves and mount a 3rd party run. The DNC is only going to permit Hillary to win so he's wasting his time anyway. Run as an independent Bernie, it's the best thing you can do for your country!

GD I know you take politics seriously but lets be realistic ....Clinton will win

 

Don't you think you should start to get  use to respect her ...I mean if she is president. I assume you guys respect the office?

 

I would be also frustrated by Trump...but he is more a symptom of the Republicans  failure to install real confidence. Lets not blame the Democrats for having a logical structure and appeal. I have said this before but the Republicans have almost lost there identity

 

And yes they need to stop offending minorities and coming across so conservative....it can't be that hard ?

 

I've made my opinion of Hillary Clinton abundantly clear. And I fail to see how the republicans being "conservative" should offend minorities. Truth to tell I fail to see any conservative republicans at all. The "republican" house and "republican" senate just passed a big government disaster of a budget that gives the President everything he's ever dreamed of and more. They fully funded every bad idea he's had for two years. If both political parties are bound and determined to spend the United States into insolvency one just faster than the other, then the outcomes of elections are meaningless.

 

If you want my $.02 it's past time we took a hard look at secession. All I can do is protect my financial assets, minimize my tax exposure and make the land I own as productive as possible so if needs be I can provide for myself. And ensure I al well armed and well prepared should the worse come to worst.

[Guard Dog]

 

I think Bernie should tell the DNC to go f--k themselves and mount a 3rd party run. The DNC is only going to permit Hillary to win so he's wasting his time anyway. Run as an independent Bernie, it's the best thing you can do for your country!

 

I know what you're trying to do here

 

No doubt. You are a smart dude. But it wouldn't take a Machiavelli to figure it out. Besides, you don't want to see her in office either right?

[Hurlshort]

The perfect storm will be Bush versus Clinton, with Sanders and Trump running independent.  Throw in Ralph Nader and Ross Perot (who, I looked it up, is still alive!) and we'd have a fantastic show.

[BruceVC]

 

 

I think Bernie should tell the DNC to go f--k themselves and mount a 3rd party run. The DNC is only going to permit Hillary to win so he's wasting his time anyway. Run as an independent Bernie, it's the best thing you can do for your country!

GD I know you take politics seriously but lets be realistic ....Clinton will win

 

Don't you think you should start to get  use to respect her ...I mean if she is president. I assume you guys respect the office?

 

I would be also frustrated by Trump...but he is more a symptom of the Republicans  failure to install real confidence. Lets not blame the Democrats for having a logical structure and appeal. I have said this before but the Republicans have almost lost there identity

 

And yes they need to stop offending minorities and coming across so conservative....it can't be that hard ?

 

I've made my opinion of Hillary Clinton abundantly clear. And I fail to see how the republicans being "conservative" should offend minorities. Truth to tell I fail to see any conservative republicans at all. The "republican" house and "republican" senate just passed a big government disaster of a budget that gives the President everything he's ever dreamed of and more. They fully funded every bad idea he's had for two years. If both political parties are bound and determined to spend the United States into insolvency one just faster than the other, then the outcomes of elections are meaningless.

 

If you want my $.02 it's past time we took a hard look at secession. All I can do is protect my financial assets, minimize my tax exposure and make the land I own as productive as possible so if needs be I can provide for myself. And ensure I al well armed and well prepared should the worse come to worst.

 

Of course you must realize I sympathize with you and others and do always read what you say. I am a white, male and I do believe we need to concerned of real threats which come surreptitiously through various mediums....so yes there are agendas against us. I accept that but Clinton isn't one of the,

 

And you know you can overreact or maybe its better to say you sometimes need to clear your mind..like the last time you bought all that gold and went to that game park with the dogs

 

But if I can try to be constructive, the Republicans have got to start asking another series of  question " what do we stand for? What intrinsically do we offer? What will we not accept in our name " 

 

You cannot let a guy like Trump run rampant...I know its easy for me to make suggestions from South Africa but I refuse to believe with all this intelligence and experience Trump is the only divisive candidate 

 

And also GD this whole  " conservative" values needs to be re-looked at if the result is a candidate who just offends people. This is not an attack on your religion or our race, why do you feel you need to follow someone who is religious?

 

I watched the whole Republican debate, as in the whole thing. There are good candidates like Rubio and Bush. But the thought of Tennessee  seceding....you can't mean that. Imagine not being able to sing the US anthem 

Edited December 19, 2015 by BruceVC

[Orogun01]

The perfect storm will be Bush versus Clinton, with Sanders and Trump running independent.  Throw in Ralph Nader and Ross Perot (who, I looked it up, is still alive!) and we'd have a fantastic show.

Oh Hurlie I love your optimism, most people don't even remember Nader much less know who Sanders is or what they all about.

 

Nope, the presidential race will be racism meanie vs strong independent vagina.

[ManifestedISO]

For some reason this reminds me of 2004 when I mistakenly voted for the nadir of candidates. I'm no Machiavelli, though, I don't understand the ins and outs. Is it splitting the vote?