Blarghagh Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Continued from here: http://forums.obsidian.net/topic/79124-road-to-the-white-house-2016/page-27 Discuss the upcoming US presidential election here! That Bernie Sanders looks like a cool dude to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guard Dog Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Dunno about that one TN. To tell the truth with the possible exception of Rand Paul the whole lot of them make me want to buy more guns, gold, ammo, and non-perishable food! Quote "Be on the lookout for thieves, trespassers, aaaand COMMUNISTS!" The Director FO4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barothmuk Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 (edited) Since this is broadly "the politics thread" I'll post this article I was sent today. The Rise of the Post-New Left Political Vocabulary Given many share my general disdain for identity politics I figured it could be of interest. Edited August 26, 2015 by Barothmuk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KP on top of ZA WARUDO Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Dunno about that one TN. To tell the truth with the possible exception of Rand Paul the whole lot of them make me want to buy more guns, gold, ammo, and non-perishable food! You should probably be doing that anyways. Since this is broadly "the politics thread" I'll post this article I was sent today. The Rise of the Post-New Left Political Vocabulary Given many share my general disdain for identity politics I figured it could be of interest. Interesting read. I sometimes wonder if the rise of identity politics was a deliberate attempt at destroying opposition groups. It seems remarkably effective at shifting class consciousness to other areas and splintering groups with similar interests. Quote "To be fair, if I was married to Milla Jovovich, I would also be happy just making movies that show off her butt." - Hurlsnot "I originally just wanted to ignore this, but I can't sleep, so why not." - majestic "I murdered my entire family as well as the police and priests investigating me for murdering my entire family in the name of Satan. Good times." - Bartimaeus "I will undoubtedly cave and buy this since Nintendo has me by the balls with Shin Megami Tensei V." - Keyrock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agiel Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Welp, David Duke just gave Trump his endorsement: http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/25/politics/david-duke-donald-trump-immigration/ Quote Quote "All of life’s lessons come with a price… We may learn a lesson, and things may get better in the end… So that’s the trade off…life experience for exhaustion… wisdom for innocence. There may be a happy ending to our stories… but we paid for that with little pieces of our souls and we will never get those back." -Austin Lunn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orogun01 Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Welp, David Duke just gave Trump his endorsement: http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/25/politics/david-duke-donald-trump-immigration/ I thought Duke left all that racism behind, why do the media want to bring that back up? Quote I'd say the answer to that question is kind of like the answer to "who's the sucker in this poker game?"* *If you can't tell, it's you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadySands Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Nah, I think he still hates Jews. Probably others too just not as much but he still seems to talk about Jews a lot. Even the article says he doesn't give Trump his endorsement because of his "deep Jewish connections" but thinks he's the best of the lot. Quote Free games updated 3/4/21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meshugger Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 David Duke's view of the Jews sounds about the same as every man on the street in the middle east. We better bomb that racism away from them; that will work, since they simply do not know better about God's chosen people. We should also publicly dismiss people through guilt by association, since people like that, and if they do, it has to be the right thing to do. But really, i have little info on that guy. Never heard about him before. Quote "Some men see things as they are and say why?""I dream things that never were and say why not?"- George Bernard Shaw"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."- Friedrich Nietzsche "The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." - Some guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadySands Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 In other news that should surprise nobody, Trump is 'arrogant', Hillary is a 'liar' and Jeb is a 'Bush', says poll Per the poll: Donald Trump leads the crowded Republican pack with 28 percent, up from 20 percent in a July 30 national survey by the independent Quinnipiac University. This is the highest tally and widest margin for any Republican so far in this election. Ben Carson has 12 percent, with 7 percent each for former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas and U.S. Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida. No other Republican tops 6 percent and 11 percent are undecided. Clinton leads the Democratic field with 45 percent, down from 55 percent July 30, with U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont at 22 percent and Biden at 18 percent. No other candidate tops 1 percent with 11 percent undecided. This is Sanders’ highest tally and closest margin. Additionally, Trump and Clinton suffer from being deemed most dishonest. The poll surveyed 1,563 people across the country. Quote Free games updated 3/4/21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bartimaeus Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Trump's insult game really was pretty weak there...other candidates really seem to be his forte, not normal (...relatively) people. Quote Put fascists and sociopaths on your ignore list. Quote Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurlsnot Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 So...I really hope this is a staffer or some underling. If Trump is really wasting time getting into twitter wars...ok, I guess we can just add it to the list of crazy crap about him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Namutree Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 So...I really hope this is a staffer or some underling. If Trump is really wasting time getting into twitter wars...ok, I guess we can just add it to the list of crazy crap about him. How could you even think that isn't Trump??? Quote "Good thing I don't heal my characters or they'd be really hurt." Is not something I should ever be thinking. I use blue text when I'm being sarcastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadySands Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 This quiz was easier than I thought it would be but I've watched those movies more times than I'd care to put a number on Who said it: Ron Burgundy or Donald Trump Quote Free games updated 3/4/21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KP on top of ZA WARUDO Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 This quiz was easier than I thought it would be but I've watched those movies more times than I'd care to put a number on Who said it: Ron Burgundy or Donald Trump I got five right. Quote "To be fair, if I was married to Milla Jovovich, I would also be happy just making movies that show off her butt." - Hurlsnot "I originally just wanted to ignore this, but I can't sleep, so why not." - majestic "I murdered my entire family as well as the police and priests investigating me for murdering my entire family in the name of Satan. Good times." - Bartimaeus "I will undoubtedly cave and buy this since Nintendo has me by the balls with Shin Megami Tensei V." - Keyrock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bartimaeus Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 (edited) 13/16. Not too bad, given I don't really know who Ron Burgundy is besides some sort of TV/movie character, and I've never heard any of these quotes by either of them and was just going what I felt was a little *too* ridiculous and/or off agenda for Trump...which failed me three times, but out of sixteen times, again, not bad. Edited August 28, 2015 by Bartimaeus Quote Put fascists and sociopaths on your ignore list. Quote Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoonDing Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Trump's right about Modern Family though Quote The ending of the words is ALMSIVI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrath of Dagon Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 I was doing good at first, but finally missed 3. Quote "Moral indignation is a standard strategy for endowing the idiot with dignity." Marshall McLuhan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calax Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 I think one of the reasons that Trump gets popularity is just because he's got an identity. People know who he is, on a wide scale... Bobby Jindal, Marco Rubio, Rand Paul etc are all to careful politicians to let themselves get to far from the party base (ok not paul per se... but he's still enough of a politician to not try and upset the base at this point). Trump is the guy who sticks his name to everything and revels in his brand. He's not afraid to speak his mind so people feel like they know more what they're getting with Trump over any other political that might be placed in charge. On the other side of the ring, you've got Sanders and Clinton... who's entire political strategy seems to be "You be over there, I'll be over here, and when the time comes we'll see who's got more backers" without firing shots at each other. The problem for Sanders is that he's on the democratic ticket as an independant... while Hillary's entire backing is the base of the party. I'm sure Sanders could take an election of him vs hillary in the General, but in a primary? I doubt it. Quote Victor of the 5 year fan fic competition! Kevin Butler will awesome your face off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilloutman Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Ha, I would love to see Trump as US president, so much fun! I like how it is showing that even if you are kind of douchbag at least you can still find people who like honest talk than that politically correct jiberish every other politician have to use Quote I'm the enemy, 'cause I like to think, I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech, and freedom of choice. I'm the kinda guy that likes to sit in a greasy spoon and wonder, "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecue ribs with the side-order of gravy fries?" I want high cholesterol! I wanna eat bacon, and butter, and buckets of cheese, okay?! I wanna smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in the non-smoking section! I wanna run naked through the street, with green Jell-O all over my body, reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly may feel the need to, okay, pal? I've SEEN the future. Do you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake, singing "I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiene" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVC Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Ha, I would love to see Trump as US president, so much fun! I like how it is showing that even if you are kind of douchbag at least you can still find people who like honest talk than that politically correct jiberish every other politician have to use Do you not think it is possible for a presidential candidate to have a honest debate without offending people ? Quote "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meshugger Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 "Offending people" is completely subjective and serves no purpose outside of those who wish to control what offensive means to them. Basically, it is the tool of the tyrant that controls speech and manufactures context. Quote "Some men see things as they are and say why?""I dream things that never were and say why not?"- George Bernard Shaw"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."- Friedrich Nietzsche "The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." - Some guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVC Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 "Offending people" is completely subjective and serves no purpose outside of those who wish to control what offensive means to them. Basically, it is the tool of the tyrant that controls speech and manufactures context. Interesting, so you don't think his comment about...lets say the Mexican community are offensive? http://www.latinpost.com/articles/66043/20150714/rupert-murdoch-slams-donald-trumps-remarks-about-mexican-immigrants.htm http://www.latinospost.com/articles/65207/20150626/latin-celebrities-responds-to-donald-trumps-hateful-comments-about-mexican-immigrants.htm Quote "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meshugger Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 "Offending people" is completely subjective and serves no purpose outside of those who wish to control what offensive means to them. Basically, it is the tool of the tyrant that controls speech and manufactures context. Interesting, so you don't think his comment about...lets say the Mexican community are offensive? http://www.latinpost.com/articles/66043/20150714/rupert-murdoch-slams-donald-trumps-remarks-about-mexican-immigrants.htm http://www.latinospost.com/articles/65207/20150626/latin-celebrities-responds-to-donald-trumps-hateful-comments-about-mexican-immigrants.htm It's like you didn't understand my point at all. Quote "Some men see things as they are and say why?""I dream things that never were and say why not?"- George Bernard Shaw"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."- Friedrich Nietzsche "The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." - Some guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurlsnot Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 (edited) "Offending people" is completely subjective and serves no purpose outside of those who wish to control what offensive means to them. Basically, it is the tool of the tyrant that controls speech and manufactures context. Uh, you can a bit of decorum without being a tyrant. Edited August 31, 2015 by Hurlshot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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