Journalism and Bias in the Gaming Industry

[aluminiumtrioxid]

In fairness I'd rather believe this fact based study conducted by recognised PhD's than McIntosh and his sock puppets extremely poorly made and frequently factually inaccurate videos.

 

Well that's not a very constructive attitude.

[Nonek]

Taking facts and a recognised study over a few poorly made and researched videos? I suppose that's a different perspective on what constitutes constructive then.

[aluminiumtrioxid]

Taking facts and a recognised study over a few poorly made and researched videos?

 

No, the false dichotomy thing.

[Calax]

On the militaries hand in entertainment:
The DoD has a program where they'll help fund a movie (it's been movies mostly) but they get to do a bit of script doctoring to make the militaries portrayal within it be more beneficial for them. They only get the money if the DoD gets that script control over the portrayal of their soldiers and such. This actually caused them to be out of Avengers 2 and (I think) Winter Soldier because it makes the military look ineffective.
 
Somebody mentioned that Man of Steel's portrayal of the Military was bad, but think about it. The Military men all follow orders no matter what and their concern is always to defend American soil, to the point that they heroically sacrifice themselves to save the day while Superman is busy punching other people.
 
And in Xmen, consider, the military guys there may be drones, but they're always trying to do the right thing, even if they're following orders. It's like the CCA's content controls like this 

Crimes shall never be presented in such a way as to create sympathy for the criminal, to promote distrust of the forces of law and justice, or to inspire others with a desire to imitate criminals.

 

If crime is depicted it shall be as a sordid and unpleasant activity.

Policemen, judges, government officials, and respected institutions shall never be presented in such a way as to create disrespect for established authority.

 

But can I ask those who are trying to say that Anita is making good points and should be taken seriously. 

 

What was your reaction to when Fox News declared that Mass Effect would have interactive sex acts and full frontal nudity?

[aluminiumtrioxid]

 

But can I ask those who are trying to say that Anita is making good points and should be taken seriously. 

 

What was your reaction to when Fox News declared that Mass Effect would have interactive sex acts and full frontal nudity?

 

 

Now there's a false equivalence if I ever saw one.

Edited June 1, 2015 by aluminiumtrioxid

[Meshugger]

Check the what the best selling title on Steam is at the moment, fellas.

[JadedWolf]

Check the what the best selling title on Steam is at the moment, fellas.

 

Lego Worlds?

[PK htiw klaw eriF]

Check the what the best selling title on Steam is at the moment, fellas.

[Meshugger]

 

Check the what the best selling title on Steam is at the moment, fellas.

 

Lego Worlds?

 

 

Check KP's post.

 

Atleast on my list it's at the top before GTA V and Witcher 3.

[Amentep]

I get

 

Lego Worlds

Hatred

GTA V

[Meshugger]

I get

 

Lego Worlds

Hatred

GTA V

 

I get 

 

1 Hatred

2 GTA V

3 Witcher 3

 

You live in the wrong region

 

But man, this game is a "piss off" to everyone:

 

 

 

Achievement unlocked: 

Mainstream Guy

Kill 50 hipsters  

Edited June 1, 2015 by Meshugger

[Amentep]

You live in the wrong region

Story of my life...

[Meshugger]

More tr0l0l0000l:

 

[Hurlshort]

 

 

But can I ask those who are trying to say that Anita is making good points and should be taken seriously. 

 

What was your reaction to when Fox News declared that Mass Effect would have interactive sex acts and full frontal nudity?

 

There are zero people that have said that.  Unless you count Bruce, who responds with 'that's a good point' to pretty much everybody.

[Calax]

 

 

But can I ask those who are trying to say that Anita is making good points and should be taken seriously. 

 

What was your reaction to when Fox News declared that Mass Effect would have interactive sex acts and full frontal nudity?

 

 

Now there's a false equivalence if I ever saw one.

 

IMO, it's not. Because much of the information she gives her viewers has the same veracity and truth behind it.

[Nonek]

 

Taking facts and a recognised study over a few poorly made and researched videos?

 

No, the false dichotomy thing.

 

 

There is none as far as I can see.

 

Ironic that Hatred is now a top selling game thanks to game journalists false outrage, especially when considering that there have been far more violent and graphic games that have not achieved such status as to deserve Twitch bans, and such fevered debate.

 

For instance the old Punisher game and its interrogation scenes, which I believe was far more shocking. Spoilered for graphic depiction of virtual violence:

 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCwB2U42q_c

 

Edited June 1, 2015 by Nonek

[Zoraptor]

Meh, as much as game journalism sucks Hatred has been about as exploitative as it gets in their marketing and deliberately and consistently set out to get controversy as a selling point. Indeed, from the reactions I've observed just about its only selling point. I'm still expecting some Stalin vs Martians like- well, probably not as actually bad as SvM- overmarketed, poor and short game from Hatred. If so it will be interesting to see how many people can admit they were duped.

 

I don't of course think it should be banned or anything, they can make and market their game any way they want so far as I am concerned. But a game that pretty transparently aims to get people buying it on the premise that it will annoy sjws if you do is not really something I can get behind, at all. I don't particularly care if it's a GG knee jerking up through the desk or an sjw one, they're both bad.

 

(Seriously, the number of people wanting to preorder it solely on the basis of it annoying sjws, I'm actually not sure I've seen anyone say they preordered/ wanted to buy on the basis of it being, well, a good game as opposed to some sort of principle of free speech/ censorship or being anti sjw. And really, that is about as sheep like as anyone preordering CoD or Mass Effect or AssCreed or whatever the cool people like to laugh at du jour)

Edited June 1, 2015 by Zoraptor

[Hurlshort]

I'll stick with Saint's Row for my over the top violence.  It is tremendously more clever than what I've seen of Hatred. 

[Volourn]

Yeah. It doesn't take much cleverness to annoy or upset SJWs. Hell, even their 'allies' like Obsidian and Bioware annoy and upset without even trying. LMAO

[PK htiw klaw eriF]

https://archive.is/j7x2t

 

I've always wondered why people who seem to dislike videogames get a low-paying(from what data I've seen) job writing about them. I mean I get that Polygon is more a political site these days, but couldn't they start a blog centered around liberalism instead of doing videogame press?

 

http://nichegamer.com/2015/06/saudi-arabia-enacts-new-rating-system-will-also-seek-ban-on-certain-games/

 

Saudi Arabia is implementing a new rating system and possibly banning some games. If this gets called "progressive" for banning GTA, I wouldn't be surprised.

[kirottu]

https://archive.is/j7x2t

 

I've always wondered why people who seem to dislike videogames get a low-paying(from what data I've seen) job writing about them. I mean I get that Polygon is more a political site these days, but couldn't they start a blog centered around liberalism instead of doing videogame press?

All video games are stupid, of course. That whole thing of, 'you're not really shooting terrorists or winning the World Cup, you're just pressing buttons' is patronizing and simplistic but every now and again you come across a game that has so little emotional connection to who you are that you end up standing there, gazing at the screen and saying "I'm just pressing buttons and my life has no meaning," to a slightly bemused PR person.

Why is this person even writing about games for games site? Also, having some imagination helps getting immersed in a game, but obviously this guy has none.

 

Edit: It really seems like these type of people have failed in everywhere else, because of their lack of skill in anything relevant, and they have never understood their personal failings are their own fault. Then they find a job what has so low standards even they can get hired. It isn't flipping burgers. It is games journalism.

 

Leigh Alexander is a good example of this. Now she has her own site that has only her going for it and she's in deep trouble, because her writing is bad. She never needed to improve her writing.

Edited June 2, 2015 by kirottu

[Meshugger]

https://archive.is/j7x2t

 

I've always wondered why people who seem to dislike videogames get a low-paying(from what data I've seen) job writing about them. I mean I get that Polygon is more a political site these days, but couldn't they start a blog centered around liberalism instead of doing videogame press?

 

http://nichegamer.com/2015/06/saudi-arabia-enacts-new-rating-system-will-also-seek-ban-on-certain-games/

 

Saudi Arabia is implementing a new rating system and possibly banning some games. If this gets called "progressive" for banning GTA, I wouldn't be surprised.

 

That article is parody levels of bad. Trying to elevate himself by mentioning that he's 1) eating a fine pastry 2) discussing politics about a country no one cares about and therefore safe to have an opinion about 3) finding no pleasure in simple, out-of-control joys. Yeah, join the salvation army or doctors without borders already, you self-hating imbecille.

 

I think that it is possible that some western countries will be less progressive than Saudi-Arabia in terms of gaming, practically speaking. This due to people in countries in that region tend not to follow the rule of law so strictly.

[BruceVC]

 

https://archive.is/j7x2t

 

I've always wondered why people who seem to dislike videogames get a low-paying(from what data I've seen) job writing about them. I mean I get that Polygon is more a political site these days, but couldn't they start a blog centered around liberalism instead of doing videogame press?

 

http://nichegamer.com/2015/06/saudi-arabia-enacts-new-rating-system-will-also-seek-ban-on-certain-games/

 

Saudi Arabia is implementing a new rating system and possibly banning some games. If this gets called "progressive" for banning GTA, I wouldn't be surprised.

 

 

I think that it is possible that some western countries will be less progressive than Saudi-Arabia in terms of gaming, practically speaking. This due to people in countries in that region tend not to follow the rule of law so strictly.

 

 

Have you ever been to Saudi Arabia? I doubt any Western country will be anywhere near as restrictive around gaming  as the conservative view of the Saudi's and what they consider as acceptable gaming content

[Meshugger]

 

 

https://archive.is/j7x2t

 

I've always wondered why people who seem to dislike videogames get a low-paying(from what data I've seen) job writing about them. I mean I get that Polygon is more a political site these days, but couldn't they start a blog centered around liberalism instead of doing videogame press?

 

http://nichegamer.com/2015/06/saudi-arabia-enacts-new-rating-system-will-also-seek-ban-on-certain-games/

 

Saudi Arabia is implementing a new rating system and possibly banning some games. If this gets called "progressive" for banning GTA, I wouldn't be surprised.

 

 

I think that it is possible that some western countries will be less progressive than Saudi-Arabia in terms of gaming, practically speaking. This due to people in countries in that region tend not to follow the rule of law so strictly.

 

 

Have you ever been to Saudi Arabia? I doubt any Western country will be anywhere near as restrictive around gaming  as the conservative view of the Saudi's and what they consider as acceptable gaming content

 

 

My contacts with the region tell me that they do quite a lot "under the table" and the trust in the local authorities and governments are pretty much nil. That's why a ban of a game will not bring any real effect. Compare that to a ban in Germany, where every part of the distribution-chain will be heavily monitored because well, the is the law, and how can anyone break the law? That's why a ban of a game will have greater effect.

 

Maybe not now, but i wouldn't be surprised in the near future.

[BruceVC]

 

 

 

https://archive.is/j7x2t

 

I've always wondered why people who seem to dislike videogames get a low-paying(from what data I've seen) job writing about them. I mean I get that Polygon is more a political site these days, but couldn't they start a blog centered around liberalism instead of doing videogame press?

 

http://nichegamer.com/2015/06/saudi-arabia-enacts-new-rating-system-will-also-seek-ban-on-certain-games/

 

Saudi Arabia is implementing a new rating system and possibly banning some games. If this gets called "progressive" for banning GTA, I wouldn't be surprised.

 

 

I think that it is possible that some western countries will be less progressive than Saudi-Arabia in terms of gaming, practically speaking. This due to people in countries in that region tend not to follow the rule of law so strictly.

 

 

Have you ever been to Saudi Arabia? I doubt any Western country will be anywhere near as restrictive around gaming  as the conservative view of the Saudi's and what they consider as acceptable gaming content

 

 

My contacts with the region tell me that they do quite a lot "under the table" and the trust in the local authorities and governments are pretty much nil. That's why a ban of a game will not bring any real effect. Compare that to a ban in Germany, where every part of the distribution-chain will be heavily monitored because well, the is the law, and how can anyone break the law? That's why a ban of a game will have greater effect.

 

Maybe not now, but i wouldn't be surprised in the near future.

 

Okay I see your point, if Germany banned a game like GTAV then it probably would be more effectively implemented than how the Saudi's could do it