Hit points and death

[Jigawatts]

Is there going to be an option to change to classical hit points and death, instead of using the endurance system and knockouts?

[BrainMuncher]

No

[MasterPrudent]

Not really. However you can choose to have your characters die when their health runs out for the first time instead of the default option in which they become maimed the first time their health runs out and die the second time. Endurance is still a part of the game however and characters are only be knocked out when their endurance runs out.

 

As you can imagine it would be very time consuming to balance the game around two entirely different health systems.

Edited January 20, 2015 by MasterPrudent

[PrimeJunta]

I'm sure it wouldn't be too difficult to mod though.

[kingcrowley6969]

I kind of dig it the way it is already. 

[PrimeJunta]

Me too. It's a good system.

[GordonHalfman]

I think there should be a bigger penalty for characters falling unconscious. It feels cheap to just sac people sometimes and produces these strange "I better not heal him or he might die" scenarios. This was discussed a lot in the early versions of the beta but the discussion petered out. Hopefully mods will fix it.

[Naith1]

Totally agree with Gordon. It is highly needed to have somehow bigger kind of penalty for falling, to try not sacrifice anyone in the team "just like that".

Please devs take this into consideration!

Edited January 20, 2015 by Naith1

[MasterPrudent]

I dunno. I think can make for an interesting choice. You have to decide whether you need the character to win the fight or to prevent damage to other characters or if you would prefer them to have more health for later fights. Also if they are in danger of losing all their health than there is a substantial penalty (death or being maimed). If they're not, well, they're getting closer to that point.

[ruzen]

I think there should be a bigger penalty for characters falling unconscious. It feels cheap to just sac people sometimes and produces these strange "I better not heal him or he might die" scenarios. This was discussed a lot in the early versions of the beta but the discussion petered out. Hopefully mods will fix it.

What I would like to have injury system every time someone falls and lost their endurance.

[PrimeJunta]

In the IE games having a party member go down is an automatic reload for me (until I have in-party access to Raise Dead, and often then too). I can't stomach the trek back somewhere they can be Raised. That makes many of the set-piece battles much duller than they could be since I end up not fighting them to the end a lot of the time.

 

I prefer a somewhat more forgiving system that allows for closer victories. OTOH I don't care for NWN-esque "everybody always gets up unless it's a TPW" either. P:E's compromise suits me great.

[Gfted1]

Meh, Im going to treat getting maimed the same as dying, Powerword: Reload. OTOH, I believe simply resting cures all maimings too so I guess I don't have to reload when I can rest spam w/ Sensuki's unlimited camping supply mod.

[constantine]

I can see already how that mod will take away from the survival-tactical element to replace it with convenience and things becoming easier for the player.

[Sarex]

ROFL

[Lephys]

Might as well just cut out the middle man and use a mod that prevents anyone from ever collapsing or dying, ever.

[Gfted1]

Yes, its called god mode. I would also like an instakill ability so I don't have to wait through 1hp grazes.

[Lephys]

Why not just a skip-combat mod, then? God-mode plus instakill = what's the point in combat actually having to take place at that point?

 

You can't die, they can't not-die... might as well skip to corpses lying around, and throw in auto-loot while you're at it. Story Mode, it could be called. Someone might be able to make that.

Edited January 20, 2015 by Lephys

[Gfted1]

Why not just a skip-combat mod, then? God-mode plus instakill = what's the point in combat actually having to take place at that point?

 

You can't die, they can't not-die... might as well skip to corpses lying around, and throw in auto-loot while you're at it. Story Mode, it could be called. Someone might be able to make that.

 

:highfive: Now youre getting it!

[Lephys]

. I'm dead serious, though. It just seems like "I'll just use unlimited resting" and other such things are just chipping away at the frustration, rather than cutting off its head. 8P

[Luckmann]

At some point, you have to ask yourself why you're even opening up the game. Just read the story right out of the game files while sitting on the porch.

[PrimeJunta]

Going by the BB, P:E would be a perfectly respectable adventure game even if you stripped out all the combat. Cool writing and highly reactive to your choices. I'm not surprised at all that people who hate combat would still want to experience the story. I'm sure there would be demand for a "story mode" mod.