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Video gamers stop your dreaming, can't you hear their outraged squealing.

See their fascist agenda streaming, to this battlefield.

 

From the threads resounding, let the call be sounding.

Summon all at Sommer's call, the SJF's surrounding.

 

Video gamers on to glory, this shall be your passtimes story.

Keep these burning words before ye, you are all dead.

 

 

Sorry, watched Zulu today. "Scrawny bespectacled pencil necks with weird hair, thousands of 'em."

 

Nonek I may have misunderstood you but  are you suggesting in other comments that you actually aren't  heavily invested from a sympathy and support perspective with GG?

 

In other words you aren't really on a " side"

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L0L So control is about masculinty? LMAO Everyone wants control and power. Male or female. It don't matter. People want others to do what they want them to do. 99% of people believe in slavery as long as they are the slaver.

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Now wait a minute! She brings up valid points like beating up women is bad and games should not condone violence, issues I had hitherto been thoroughly confused on. 

 

Video games should do whatever the hell they want.

 

 

I disagree.  This is a business, they are trying to sell a product.  They should do whatever their consumers want.  

 

Indie developers have a lot more leeway, but they still have to think is terms of marketability at some point.  Otherwise making games is just a hobby.

 

If they want to make make money; then go ahead and do that.

 

.... what?

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.... what?

 

 

 

I'll explain what I meant for those didn't understand what I meant.

 

Video Game developers should create whatever game they want to create. Whether the focus is to make money or just create something cool should be up to them. Developers don't need SJW's trying to pressure them into creating a game based on the values they are currently promoting.

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"Good thing I don't heal my characters or they'd be really hurt." Is not something I should ever be thinking.

 

I use blue text when I'm being sarcastic.

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Now i understand why one of the members of the board of DiGRA wishes to explore Myst without puzzles and Doom without guns. Dear lord, these guys are so out of touch with reality.

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I'm so glad this forum seems to be run by saner heads and there isn't heavy censorship or ban-hammering going around (like on many other forums).

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Twitter sure is a gold mine for funny stuff throughout all this.

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http://www.spectator.co.uk/columnists/james-delingpole/9322382/why-i-love-grand-theft-auto-v-and-the-feminazis-hate-it/

 

OK, James Delingpole is a polemicist who loves nothing more than getting in the faces of the liberal left (he has his faults - this isn't one of them) but he makes some interesting points as a fresh pair of eyes on this affair.

 

Some quotes from the piece...

 

Gaming is the last bastion, the Helm’s Deep of freedom of expression.

 

So... Rather than getting rid of the infestation of left-wing culture warriors in games journalism, we caused right-wing culture warriors to also start seeing gaming as a battleground for their culture wars?

 

That's... balance, of a sort, but I think not what most of us were hoping for. :mellow:

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"Some ideas are so stupid that only an intellectual could believe them." -- attributed to George Orwell

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That's a great article, thanks for sharing.

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This may be the best moderate pro-#gamergate leaning article yet.

 

Thus it nicely complements the articles by Forbes' Erik Kain, who is leaning towards the anti-#gamergate side but also makes an effort to remain fair and reasonable.

 

PS: Also, I'm going to follow this article's lead and start to drop the term "Social Justice Warriors" in favour of "culture warriors" -- because it is ...wait for it... more inclusive! :grin:

Btw here are my favourite quotes from the article (formatting added):

 

Critics of GamerGate argue that the revolt is nothing more than a pushback against a ‘broader’ audience. They say it’s anti-diversity, anti-inclusive. Most often, we hear it’s ‘toxic’.

 

[...]

 

The problem with this narrative is that it mistakes opposition to culture warriors with opposition to diversity. It mistakes a disdain for ideology with a disdain for inclusivity.

 

Gamers will always welcome new people and new ideas with open arms. What they will not welcome is a Thompson-like war for cultural hegemony, regardless of whether it comes from the left or the right.

"Some ideas are so stupid that only an intellectual could believe them." -- attributed to George Orwell

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Here is a similar one:

 

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This is basically the Jack Thompson argument. "Dem shooters are corrupting people".

I just don't get this. Games are fiction, people are aware that what happens in them isn't real. I certainly know that casting Eagle's Splendor before conversing with people isn't how to handle stuff in real life.

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Anita is just the 21st Century version of Jack Chick (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_T._Chick). Jack had religion, Anita has feminism.

 

Those evil games are pushing people off the path of righteousness and must be controlled!

 

Seriously, consider the tactical similarities between SJWs and looney-tune Christian fundies. They are legion.

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Did Anita just Tweet that? Sounds like a desperate counter to #GG. Very conspiratorial too with the games will corrupt you angle.

 

We can also determine from this that there's a Cyrillic-based language where second or minute is pronounced "cent," and that's funny too. It looks like Anita's post is worth 1 cent. Tee hee tee hee

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Can we just make games fun again?

No they are about experiences now.

Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra

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No they are about experiences now.

I'm from the patriarchy and I approve this message.

 

Games are all about fun atm :( they need to rethink what these negative tropes are doing to the consensus about gender, no modern games portray women as inferior beings and the slaves of men, they're pushing the feminazism to our young. No games let you play as a man running a global secret world controlling organization trying its hardest to undermine women through video games, propaganda, and third world military coups. Most games don't even acknowledge the patriarchy's existance.

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That message from Anita is plain old fashion stupid. As someone else has mentioned, that's EXACTLY what Jack Thompson claimed and EVERYONE basically threw him and his opinion in the trash. The same should to her opinion.

 

 Bottom line is violence has gone DOWN since video games have become more popular.

 

People like her and Jack are all about slavery, power, and control. They are evil to the core.

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