Scottish Independence?

[Zoraptor]

I'd find it pretty funny if Scotland voted yes, and pretty much all the English people I know would vote yes if they could vote which is pretty telling of how much the Scots are disliked. Not absolutely sure that Cameron doesn't want them to go either, him, Clegg and Milliband going to Scotland must be worth a few votes for the yes camp and it would make the tories winning the next election a lot more likely.

 

 

^ Either that or he's a Serb. They're still butt-hurt that we stopped their genocidal tendencies via J-DAM in the early 2000s.

 

Too bad you didn't stop the Croatian genocidal tendencies, but hey I guess you need to pick a side in every conflict.

 

 

And Churchill's Bengal famine killed about an order of magnitude more people than the whole Yugoslav conflict, in a year, and well within living memory.

 

(Yes yes Monte, chippy colonial. De pop your monocle and pour yourself a pink gin to get over the temerity of it all.)

[Gorth]

I can just imagine Brits spontaneously turning into Scotsmen...

 

http://youtu.be/qxDJMn-534Y

[Meshugger]

I would support a British recolonization of various parts of the world. After all, it would be a gentlemantly one, with top hats, rule of law and tea. Not just brute force or religious zealotly of current times.

 

Except for 'muricah. They have managed to create something awesome of their own.

[Meshugger]

On a more serious note: The Scots and the English have conquered and slaughtered one another so many times already and their cultures are so intertwined that i do not see any pure independence possible. After all, when i was in the highlands a couple of years ago, i noticed that most people very quite happy with status quo. As long as you acknowledged the locals as Scots, they didn't give one rrrats arrrse on whose basturd ya were.

[Humanoid]

News of the latest poll results have reached Norway, where preparations anticipating Scotland's imminent independence have moved into full swing.

 

[Kroney]

Excuse me, but the only thing any Scotsman has ever conquered is a bottle.

[BruceVC]

 

^ Either that or he's a Serb. They're still butt-hurt that we stopped their genocidal tendencies via J-DAM in the early 2000s.

 

Too bad you didn't stop the Croatian genocidal tendencies, but hey I guess you need to pick a side in every conflict.

 

 

Sure, we know that the Croats and Bosniaks committed atrocities as well. No one is denying that, but the Serbs committed many more as is evident by the number of Serbs compared to the other groups  facing war crimes charges in the Hague

[Meshugger]

Bruce: ssssssshhhhhhh!

 

Talking about the Balkans on the Internet is always, always a losing battle. That conflict goes back to 625AD when a Serbian horseman accidently looked the wrong way at the Croat's fisherman's daughter and accidently collided with the Bosnian horsecarridge.

 

Pure.Unadultared.Hatred has reigned the lands after that.

[BruceVC]

Bruce: ssssssshhhhhhh!

 

Talking about the Balkans on the Internet is always, always a losing battle. That conflict goes back to 625AD when a Serbian horseman accidently looked the wrong way at the Croat's fisherman's daughter and accidently collided with the Bosnian horsecarridge.

 

Pure.Unadultared.Hatred has reigned the lands after that.

 

I hear you, I just don't believe in denialist or revisionist  history

 

People need to acknowledge there part that countries played in events , I see it as part of the healing process. You don't see me denying how terrible and dehumanizing Apartheid was?

[Kroney]

We're going entirely in the wrong direction, you know. We ought to be re-arming and recalling the colonies to their proper duties. America's made a right old hash of things and Mother needs to get her slipper off to deliver a damned good thrashing. In the new empire I would humbly accept a position as Minister for the Foreign Office.

[Longknife]

But if Scotland demands independence then what'll happen to Demoman from Team Fortress 2... :C

[Monte Carlo]

An imminent return to Empire is a splendid idea. One reasonable Englishman with a .45 Webley and a couple of trusty locals who comfortably administer a couple of billion hectares of West Africa.

[Bester]

 

^ Either that or he's a Serb. They're still butt-hurt that we stopped their genocidal tendencies via J-DAM in the early 2000s.

 

Too bad you didn't stop the Croatian genocidal tendencies, but hey I guess you need to pick a side in every conflict.

 

 

Lol, excuse me, but are you seriously admitting the "Bosnian genocide" here? Oh wow. How do you live with yourself knowing you're a traitor?

[Sarex]

Lol, excuse me, but are you seriously admitting the "Bosnian genocide" here? Oh wow. How do you live with yourself knowing you're a traitor?

 

A little better then Bruce. 7/10

[Bester]

 

They can just join the Eurozone like Ireland and the Brits can go to hell.

 

Don't use "Brits" when you mean "English".

 

 

Sorry, I'm not a big expert on UK. I know there are "northern birds" who would have sex with your for a sandwich when they're not passed out in the street, but otherwise, I imagine most of the UK looks like this:

 

[Bester]

While we're on the subject of Scotland, I would like to dedicate this post to Peter Capaldi.

 

This genius man was already in my heart since "The Thick of It" came out, but when I saw those two tweets back in 2011 about jews and transsexuals, I laughed so hard, I almost lost my mind.

[Kroney]

Amusingly, that video looks to have been filmed in Scotland.

[Raithe]

http://youtu.be/W6vDzf-wSbk

 

Along with the announcement of "day of reckoning" for companies that side with "No"

 

BBC - Scottish independence: Jim Sillars warns of 'day of reckoning'

 

 

 

A former deputy leader of the SNP has warned "scaremongering" business leaders they face a "day of reckoning" if Scotland votes for independence.

 

Jim Sillars accused some of "subverting Scotland's democratic process" and called for oil firm BP to be nationalised after independence.

A number of banks and retail figures have made high-profile interventions in recent days.

 

The pro-UK campaign claimed the 'Yes' campaign's "mask had slipped".

Mr Sillars appeared beside Scottish First Minister Alex Salmond and his deputy Nicola Sturgeon at a pro-independence event earlier this week.

The two men are said to have fallen out 20 years ago, with Mr Sillars recently describing Mr Salmond's plans for a currency union after independence as "stupidity on stilts".

 

 

Speaking on the campaign trail in Edinburgh's Wester Hailes area from his Margo Mobile, named in memory of his late wife, Margo MacDonald MSP, Mr Sillars said oil giant BP would face nationalisation in an independent Scotland.

 

He said: "This referendum is about power, and when we get a 'Yes' majority we will use that power for a day of reckoning with BP and the banks.

"The heads of these companies are rich men, in cahoots with a rich English Tory Prime Minister, to keep Scotland's poor poorer through lies and distortions. The power they have now to subvert our democracy will come to an end with a 'Yes'.

"BP, in an independent Scotland, will need to learn the meaning of nationalisation, in part or in whole, as it has in other countries who have not been as soft as we have been forced to be.

"As for the bankers: your casino days, rescued by socialisation of your liabilities while you waltz off with the profits, will be over."

Mr Sillars added: "What kind of people do these companies think we are? They will find out."

 

His comments were seized on as "threats" by campaigners for a "No" vote.

 

Speaking on behalf of the Better Together campaign, Labour MP Ian Davidson said: "The 'Yes' campaign's mask slipped today as Jim Sillars revealed their message for the final week of this campaign - vote 'Yes' or else.

"His words are a clear threat to anyone who points out the true costs of separation to the people of Scotland.

"The 'Yes' campaign has been a campaign of fear and intimidation from the start. Many people have been silenced. Now those who put their head above the parapet get pot shots from desperate nationalists."

Mr Davidson added: "We have seen the 'Yes' campaign's thugs on the street - now we see their thugs with microphones and press releases.

"Sillars stood shoulder to shoulder with Alex Salmond this week claiming to be positive. Now we see the real face of nationalism in all its ugliness."

 

A spokesman for the pro-independence Yes Scotland campaign said: "Jim is a passionate campaigner who is carrying on the work of his late wife Margo MacDonald, who dedicated her political life to achieving an independent Scotland and a fairer society.

"The current Scottish government's proposals for an independent Scotland are set out in great detail in the White Paper - including the job-creating powers Scotland so badly needs - and that is what people are voting for.

"In each and every election to an independent parliament, parties and individuals can put forward a manifesto of their choosing and the people will decide."

 

 

[Bester]

Get independence first as a coalition of all patriots, THEN decide what to do with it. This move is putting people from the "yes" into "no" just cause they're against nationalization for instance. The N word in the capitalist brainwashed world is a taboo thing. If you say it out loud - you're done. Nobody sponsors your campaigns, nobody invites you to radio and TV, everyone starts digging dirt on you, all journals get paid to brand you a fascist or a communist. Immediately you become an outcast, then all the establishment and its lobbyists put in motion a giant machine to discredit you and promote your political opponent.

 

This guy has no future in politics now.

 

As for the independence itself, such wrong moves there. Either Sillars is a moron, or he's been bought to push people away in this final week.

 

Needless to say, I would've done a better job.

[Kroney]

Dunno if anybody else saw that video of the Quebecois chap saying vote yes, but it's pretty lol

[BruceVC]

Dunno if anybody else saw that video of the Quebecois chap saying vote yes, but it's pretty lol

 

I didn't see that but I have watching loads of commentary today and its really interesting how the polls are still very tight. No one can say with certainty which way it is going to go.

[Namutree]

 

Dunno if anybody else saw that video of the Quebecois chap saying vote yes, but it's pretty lol

 

I didn't see that but I have watching loads of commentary today and its really interesting how the polls are still very tight. No one can say with certainty which way it is going to go.

 

I could be wrong here, but I believe it will be against independence. It's hard to get people to actually go out and vote against the status quo. I'm guessing a noteworthy amount of the pro-independence block will simply not show up. On this issue I am not an expert though.

[Kroney]

I suspect it'll be the Yes camp with the strongest turn-out, conversely. It's an emotive issue and those voting yes will largely be voting with their hearts over their heads. The status quo ain't exactl motivating.

 

I'm still in favour of invasion and subjugation.

[Namutree]

I suspect it'll be the Yes camp with the strongest turn-out, conversely. It's an emotive issue and those voting yes will largely be voting with their hearts over their heads. The status quo ain't exactl motivating.

 

I'm still in favour of invasion and subjugation.

I don't know; people fear change unless the situation is really bad. You might be right though. As I said, I'm no expert on this issue.

[BruceVC]

 

 

Dunno if anybody else saw that video of the Quebecois chap saying vote yes, but it's pretty lol

 

I didn't see that but I have watching loads of commentary today and its really interesting how the polls are still very tight. No one can say with certainty which way it is going to go.

 

I could be wrong here, but I believe it will be against independence. It's hard to get people to actually go out and vote against the status quo. I'm guessing a noteworthy amount of the pro-independence block will simply not show up. On this issue I am not an expert though.

 

 

I think it boils down to the undecided voters as they still represent an influential block

 

I suspect it'll be the Yes camp with the strongest turn-out, conversely. It's an emotive issue and those voting yes will largely be voting with their hearts over their heads. The status quo ain't exactl motivating.

 

I'm still in favour of invasion and subjugation.

 

Lets hope you are wrong   I see Alan Greenspan is spelling economic doom and gloom for Scotland if they vote Yes, but I don't know how much credibility he carries anymore ?