Are they even listening to our feedback?

[ctn2003]

So far it seems that 0 devs have been taking our gameplay feedback into acount. you could say their focusing on bugs. i hope thats true. but it just seems like even after the bugs are fixed ( i hope) their not going to even look at our ui gameplay feedback at all. Do you think we are waisting our time?  ....it this game going to end up like shadowrun returns?  TONS of peaple regretting backing it?     Becase right now im a tad more highped for icewind dale enhanced edition.

 

[Sensuki]

They are listening, although I wouldn't expect to see any mechanical changes in this patch at least. One step at a time.

[IndiraLightfoot]

Gosh! You have just opened Pandora's box with this thread. Not a good idea.

 

Personally, I'm convinced that they are listening. I've been following OE closely since they released NWN2, and they have always been a company that listened and adapted to all kinds of feedback. Even our wishes, in fact. After a few of us fans had some lists going of what to include in the expansion after MotB, they actually took that to heart and fulfilled almost all of them. That was very grand of them.

 

Right now, I feel this kind of thread doesn't serve any purpose but giving post carcasses for the vultures to feed on and splatter about. It's not constructive in the slightest. I vote for it to get closed, or perhaps be moved to the General Discussion forum.

Edited September 3, 2014 by IndiraLightfoot

[Karkarov]

What Sensuki said.  Also looking at this from a "design" perspective... you want to quash bugs first.  There is no point in trying to change the basic gameplay/class functions right now when there are major bugs at play.  Look at it this way.  You can fine tune a car engine to extreme levels... but if you don't bother replacing the old gunky oil that has been in it for 10 years and resembles a black ooze it still wont run for crap.

 

In other words... until the big bugs that seriously hurt gameplay are resolved there is no point in trying to adjust the gameplay itself.

Edited September 3, 2014 by Karkarov

[ctn2003]

I was thinking the same thing...but i just had to ask to make sure i had to get it off my chest.

[Leferd]

They will take into account useful feedback. They'll discuss internally -consider, implement, discard, and or save for later.

 

The rest is all just noise from uncouth rabble that needs to be filtered out.

 

Rinse and repeat from the Black Isle days.

[Gfted1]

What Sensuki said.  Also looking at this from a "design" perspective... you want to quash bugs first.  There is no point in trying to change the basic gameplay/class functions right now when there are major bugs at play.  Look at it this way.  You can fine tune a car engine to extreme levels... but if you don't bother replacing the old gunky oil that has been in it for 10 years and resembles a black ooze it still wont run for crap.

 

In other words... until the big bugs that seriously hurt gameplay are resolved there is no point in trying to adjust the gameplay itself.

 

I would have assumed that changing basic gameplay / class functions would introduce new bugs. Seems silly to waste time and resources fixing mechanics that (may) be replaced. 

[morhilane]

A lot of the feedback received was generated because of bugs. For example, the pathfinding issues cause combat to become clustered.

[PrimeJunta]

I doubt they're going to replace (m)any mechanics. (No pressing need to either, IMO.) They are going to add a lot of talents and tune a lot of stuff, and (I hope!) do something about the combat feedback at least; however there really isn't much point to do that if the beta is borderline unplayable.

 

As to the listening part, I'm sure they are. They do have to do a quite a bit of filtering to get the signal out of the noise.

[Ink Blot]

Check the 'Josh Sawyer visually explains attack and recovery" thread. Josh has been responding in that one periodically. But you can't expect they're going to address every single concern/item of feedback on the boards. They're likely concentrating on bugs and may later on look at what they can reasonably change/tweak from the feedback suggestions.

[Bli1942]

Has there even been a patch yet? I didn't notice one on Steam. I thought they would've got rid of some game breaking bugs already, I was barely able to play.

 

Otherwise they are probably focusing some serious dev time on stuff the community has raged about the most (combat....) but I wouldn't expect to see that patched for a fair while

[Sloul]

It's the usual question on a dev forum, what is certain is that the person in charge of sound and music created a thread and read through all comments.

[Ink Blot]

Has there even been a patch yet? I didn't notice one on Steam. I thought they would've got rid of some game breaking bugs already, I was barely able to play.

 

Otherwise they are probably focusing some serious dev time on stuff the community has raged about the most (combat....) but I wouldn't expect to see that patched for a fair while

No patch yet, but it should be this week.

[archangel979]

Oh boy. BTW, SRR is one of the best games of 2013 and Dragonfall is one of the best games of 2014 so I don't know what you are about.

[BlueLion]

OMG, the beta doesn't resemble a complete game after 1 week! ... let's be realistic. The feedback given is sufficient to let us know we are being heard without distracting too much from development time. Stop with the entitled whining.

[Freshock]

It's not like 100% of the community are unhappy with the UI, I really like it for one. They are definetly listening to the people on the forums, they are really good at responding it seems. As people have said before it's gonna be hard to change anything big at this point, but I'm sure there's going to be small but important changes before the release. 

 

Edit: Did Shadowrun do that bad? Metascore is 76, seems pretty good to me but I've never tried it. 

Edited September 3, 2014 by Freshock

[IndiraLightfoot]

 

 

It can't come soon enough! Any updated info on when the patch may drop?

We are looking to release it tomorrow. We have a build that looks like a good candidate (but main menu music stopped working). We are going to do a few fixes tonight and we will either push out tomorrow's build or, if tomorrow's build has problems, we will push out tonight's build.

 

Wonderful! If I understood this correctly, we'll get a new build today, and knowing Steam, possibly around 19:00 CET. I wonder which class I'll roll up this time. Perhaps a cipher.

 

 

 

 

Has there even been a patch yet? I didn't notice one on Steam. I thought they would've got rid of some game breaking bugs already, I was barely able to play.

 

Otherwise they are probably focusing some serious dev time on stuff the community has raged about the most (combat....) but I wouldn't expect to see that patched for a fair while

No patch yet, but it should be this week.

 

 

Not to get your hopes up too much, guys, but read the first quoted posts in my post here. If we are really lucky, the patch may drop in about one hour from now!

Please, let it be true!

[PrimeJunta]

I liked SRR. Dead Man's Switch was pretty light fare but well written and atmospheric, and Dragonfall was downright good. Of course they're RPG-lites compared to what P:E is shooting for, but they were pretty good at what they were. Not without their flaws of course but all in all quite enjoyable.

[Sensuki]

Hairbrained Schemes nailed the art style, if anything.

[Luridis]

Para: Mommy, need tention!

 

The devs are all out at places of iniquity participating in as much drinking and debauchery as possible cause... That's what I'm doing when I'm at work and not twattering about whatever I happen to be working on every 2.781 minutes.

[wolfstriked]

Gotta say that after seeing many people agreeing that disappearing bodies and loot bags is not great and then seeing new styles of loot bags in the most recent video left me a little puzzled.

[Helm]

Personally, I'm convinced that they are listening. I've been following OE closely since they released NWN2, and they have always been a company that listened and adapted to all kinds of feedback.

No, they are not listening and they are not delivering what they promised either. I didn't back an isometric stealth game with pointless and dull combat, a lackluster skill/trait system and an impotent attribute system. The game looks beautiful (thanks Kaz and Hector!) but that is about it.

 

I wasn't expecting the high quality and depth of Baldur's Gate, but I was certainly expecting something with more depth than Dragon Age: Origins.

[PrimeJunta]

Hairbrained Schemes nailed the art style, if anything.

 

They did that. Also the music and the writing.

[IndiraLightfoot]

Helm: They do listen, I assure you, but that's not the same thing as adapting the game at our beck and call. Fear not, young Padawan. Those systems can be remade and be heavily tweaked. Also, hopefully, we'll get to see stuff that will get us that comfort-CRPG-feel back. As for promises. It was a Kickstarter, so basically we donated money for a good cause in the hope that it will turn into something we really enjoy playing, nothing more, nothing less. These coming months will tell If I am right. Until then, chin up.

Edited September 3, 2014 by IndiraLightfoot

[archangel979]

And the story and feeling of the world. And combat was lots of fun and dialogues were awesome.