Blarghagh Posted June 28, 2014 Posted June 28, 2014 I believe the discussion was about whether or not Leliana's french actress' french accent was a real or good french accent at this point. Continue.
marelooke Posted June 28, 2014 Posted June 28, 2014 I'll just quote myself on that topic (something that was conveniently ignored by many, I know, reading the rest before replying would've left far less room for wisecracking): Anyway I'm quite willing to accept it might just be personal preference in play here. Iow that I'm assuming she's acting it while she maybe actually does sound like that (in which case I think she has a horrible accent, but hey, de gustibus et coloribus ...). I don't recall being annoyed by the voice acting the The Saboteur so it must be something she does that ticks me off in which case I hope they get a better male voice actor for Zorro As for the rest of that thread: Amazing, you've managed to prove scientifically that there is only a single "correct" French accent for spoken English. A French actress speaking English in a game world where French doesn't even exist so it's actually irrelevant is simply faking it, obviously. You should have a PhD in linguistics for this remarkable discovery. You're pulling things so far out of context I nearly didn't deign it worthy a reply. Me posting a clip of someone actually speaking English in a natural environment in no way constitutes a statement that that is "the one true accent". Even stating so is insulting my and your own intelligence. Yes, because A) all francophones have the same accent in English (and French!) B) Leliana isn't actually from a fantasy country called Orlais but Brussels and your criticism is entirelyvalid! For a) see my response to AGX-17, for b: get a map and locate Brussels, then figure out where France is, then wonder how often I might conceivably have to deal with "real" French speaking English (on top of the Walloons, of course). Of course, the French probably aren't a good reference when it comes to French accents, I'm sorry, I have little experience with the Quebequois. If you qre however saying they weren't going for a French vibe then I'm afraid they failed because everything about Orlais screams "fantasyland France", so in that case I'd have expected a more representative accent. So to make it clear to AGX-17 and Nepenthe I'll spell it out explicitly: It is my personal opinion that Leliana has an annoying accent, she also doesn't sound like any French person speaking English I've ever met (and I've met more than a few living where I live) and as such I do hope that they'll get a voice actor with a more representative (and especially, less annoying) accent for Zorro (sorry, keep forgetting his name).
Meshugger Posted June 28, 2014 Posted June 28, 2014 Fröm näu ön, ai will speek wit a vuery strong fruench accant. Pörhäps eet maigth zound sili tu joo, byt ai find eet quitte sensual. Az dey say in mai naitivv Orlais: "Ne jamais porter un collier d'oignon en faisant l'amour sur la table de cuisine". The sentence above should be read in the voice of René from "'Allo 'Allo". You're welcome. 5 "Some men see things as they are and say why?""I dream things that never were and say why not?"- George Bernard Shaw"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."- Friedrich Nietzsche "The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." - Some guy
Zoraptor Posted June 28, 2014 Posted June 28, 2014 What, not the accent of Officer Crabtree from 'Allo 'Allo? Though I guess there'd be problems with the naughty filter every time he was 'passing by the door and heard two shots'. One of the actresses on the BBC drama Waking the Dead had an accent exactly the same as Leliana's, and also looked exactly like her. Always (well, it passed my mind on occasion once or twice) wondered if that was coincidence or not. 1
Monte Carlo Posted June 29, 2014 Posted June 29, 2014 Her accent makes me want to strangle kittens. 2
tajerio Posted June 29, 2014 Posted June 29, 2014 Her accent makes me want to strangle kittens. Hm, her accent mostly just makes me turn on subtitles and hit the mute button. But to each his own I suppose.
Gromnir Posted June 29, 2014 Posted June 29, 2014 Her accent makes me want to strangle kittens. agreed, but real world french and quebecers frequent inspire in us the same urge, soooo... *shrug* her accent isn't all that different from anne paillaud when she does english-speaking films. no doubt you can find clips o' the man in the iron mask or innocent blood. is not an excuse as Gromnir has never been a particular fan o' the french accent, faux french accents, jaunty beret, crêpes, or poor showings in world wars neither. HA! Good Fun! "If there be time to expose through discussion the falsehood and fallacies, to avert the evil by the processes of education, the remedy to be applied is more speech, not enforced silence."Justice Louis Brandeis, Concurring, Whitney v. California, 274 U.S. 357 (1927) "Im indifferent to almost any murder as long as it doesn't affect me or mine."--Gfted1 (September 30, 2019)
TheChris92 Posted June 29, 2014 Posted June 29, 2014 I love Corinne Kempa's voice. When she speaks actual french in those French commercials it sounds even more gorgeous. I think it's one of the only voices that sound genuine unlike those that come off as rather jarring working-class ****ney for Fereldens. 1
HoonDing Posted June 29, 2014 Posted June 29, 2014 As long as she doesn't sing again. 1 The ending of the words is ALMSIVI.
TheChris92 Posted June 29, 2014 Posted June 29, 2014 Well, that wasn't the voice actress singing, evidently. She probably won't.
Agiel Posted June 29, 2014 Posted June 29, 2014 (edited) Fröm näu ön, ai will speek wit a vuery strong fruench accant. Pörhäps eet maigth zound sili tu joo, byt ai find eet quitte sensual. Az dey say in mai naitivv Orlais: "Ne jamais porter un collier d'oignon en faisant l'amour sur la table de cuisine". The sentence above should be read in the voice of René from "'Allo 'Allo". You're welcome. If the Inquisition in Dragon Age lived up to its namesake, would that make the PC like Herr Otto Flick of the Gestapo and Cassandra his Helga? Inquisitor: "Zhe Inquisition has vays of making zhem talk. Cassandra! Bring me my sharp Inquisition sword." Cassandra: "I find your piercing gaze and your commanding presence quite alluring. May I kiss you?" Inquisitor: "Certainly." Edited June 29, 2014 by Agiel 5 Quote “Political philosophers have often pointed out that in wartime, the citizen, the male citizen at least, loses one of his most basic rights, his right to life; and this has been true ever since the French Revolution and the invention of conscription, now an almost universally accepted principle. But these same philosophers have rarely noted that the citizen in question simultaneously loses another right, one just as basic and perhaps even more vital for his conception of himself as a civilized human being: the right not to kill.” -Jonathan Littell <<Les Bienveillantes>> Quote "The chancellor, the late chancellor, was only partly correct. He was obsolete. But so is the State, the entity he worshipped. Any state, entity, or ideology becomes obsolete when it stockpiles the wrong weapons: when it captures territories, but not minds; when it enslaves millions, but convinces nobody. When it is naked, yet puts on armor and calls it faith, while in the Eyes of God it has no faith at all. Any state, any entity, any ideology that fails to recognize the worth, the dignity, the rights of Man...that state is obsolete." -Rod Serling
Gromnir Posted June 30, 2014 Posted June 30, 2014 Fröm näu ön, ai will speek wit a vuery strong fruench accant. Pörhäps eet maigth zound sili tu joo, byt ai find eet quitte sensual. Az dey say in mai naitivv Orlais: "Ne jamais porter un collier d'oignon en faisant l'amour sur la table de cuisine". The sentence above should be read in the voice of René from "'Allo 'Allo". You're welcome. If the Inquisition in Dragon Age lived up to its namesake, would that make the PC like Herr Otto Flick of the Gestapo and Cassandra his Helga? Inquisitor: "Zhe Inquisition has vays of making zhem talk. Cassandra! Bring me my sharp Inquisition sword." Cassandra: "I find your piercing gaze and your commanding presence quite alluring. May I kiss you?" Inquisitor: "Certainly." the term, "inquisitor" gets a bad rap. first person we think o' in such contexts is Barbara Jordan kinda personal hero o' ours in spite o' fact that her legal philosophy conflicted with ours. her keynote speech from 1976 democratic national convention is arguably one o' the greatest speeches in american history. the speech is worth listening to as it shows how much has changed (race and sexism) since 1976, and at same time, how much has stayed the same (poverty, unemployment, health care, tax reform, etc.) her popularity with the bsn crowd would rise substantial with the recognition that she were in a 20+ year relationship with another woman... although she never confirmed that she were lesbian. and o'course, she were an inquisitor. btw, watch video and try to figure out what kinda American accent she has. is sure as hell not texan. HA! Good Fun! 1 "If there be time to expose through discussion the falsehood and fallacies, to avert the evil by the processes of education, the remedy to be applied is more speech, not enforced silence."Justice Louis Brandeis, Concurring, Whitney v. California, 274 U.S. 357 (1927) "Im indifferent to almost any murder as long as it doesn't affect me or mine."--Gfted1 (September 30, 2019)
ManifestedISO Posted June 30, 2014 Posted June 30, 2014 Couldn't say. Was not aware of any American accents that go long with "against." Thought that was peculiarly British. If guessing, I would guess metropolitan PA. She's quite forceful in her enunciation. All Stop. On Screen.
tajerio Posted June 30, 2014 Posted June 30, 2014 (edited) Ms. Jordan's diction and accent remind me strongly of my great grandfather, who was born to poorly educated parents in east Texas. He consequently strove his entire life to enunciate precisely (he pronounced basically as "base-i-cal-ly," not "base-i-clee") and to reject his native accent and the stigma that attached thereto. He was about fifteen years older than Ms. Jordan, but I wouldn't be surprised if she spoke the way she did for similar reasons. Edited June 30, 2014 by tajerio 1
Wrath of Dagon Posted June 30, 2014 Posted June 30, 2014 Her accent makes me want to strangle kittens. agreed, but real world french and quebecers frequent inspire in us the same urge, soooo... *shrug* her accent isn't all that different from anne paillaud when she does english-speaking films. no doubt you can find clips o' the man in the iron mask or innocent blood. is not an excuse as Gromnir has never been a particular fan o' the french accent, faux french accents, jaunty beret, crêpes, or poor showings in world wars neither. HA! Good Fun! Well, technically they only showed poorly in one world war. "Moral indignation is a standard strategy for endowing the idiot with dignity." Marshall McLuhan
Nepenthe Posted June 30, 2014 Posted June 30, 2014 What, not the accent of Officer Crabtree from 'Allo 'Allo? Though I guess there'd be problems with the naughty filter every time he was 'passing by the door and heard two shots'. One of the actresses on the BBC drama Waking the Dead had an accent exactly the same as Leliana's, and also looked exactly like her. Always (well, it passed my mind on occasion once or twice) wondered if that was coincidence or not. Of course, this is topical since ex-nun Leliana and the fallen madonna with the big boobies are clearly the same archetype. 1 You're a cheery wee bugger, Nep. Have I ever said that? Reapercussions
Azure79 Posted June 30, 2014 Posted June 30, 2014 I didn't mind Leliana's voice at all. The singing was cringe-worthy, but I think that's mostly due to the awkward in-game animations and not the voice itself. I don't mind it at all when I hear it during the main menu screen. 1
Qistina Posted July 1, 2014 Posted July 1, 2014 Dragon Age is nothing but Star Wars and KotOR 1+2 rip off. Mages (Force sensitives) must be watched always by Templars (Handmaiden) any sign of corruption. Tevinter Imperium (The True Sith Empire) is an empire build by Blood Mages (Sith) Qunari (Mandalorian) is a warmonger race, involved in a war that almost tear down Thedas, the ones who repel against them are the Circle Mages (Jedis) Darkspawn (Rakghoul) is a mutant life form that can taint everything they touch Peoples fear Mages (Jedi) because they cannot differentiate between Mages (Jedi) and Blood Mages (Sith)
Calax Posted July 1, 2014 Posted July 1, 2014 Except that star wars is nothing like that in general. The Handmaidens were something unique to ONE Jedi master who had them indentured. It took the Tevinter teaming up with the other nations to push back the Qunari rather than just the Magi, and the population can tell the difference between sith and Jedi (especially when the Sith ran their own empires, rather than Revan's piddly rebellion) 1 Victor of the 5 year fan fic competition! Kevin Butler will awesome your face off.
Qistina Posted July 1, 2014 Posted July 1, 2014 (edited) What i mean is the idea behind Dragon Age, the story is taken from dusty locker in Bioware office, they add in stuff and change a bit, there you got Dragon Age As you can see the title is DRAGON Age but the story is never about dragon whatsover. Yes i actually debated this to death in Bioware forum, but just let me rant here a bit now Dragon Age is actually a half assed project, even in the original Dragon Age : Origin it is actually full of laziness work. As the title say Dragon Age : Origin, the story is not about dragons and the origin part is only few minutes introduction, and have no any significant in the whole pic. They claim the story is about Thedas that is the world, but what the story is about again? So David Gaider got his lazy ass idea taken only a portion of the story in DA:O that is Templar vs Mage into DA2, but still what Dragon Age is about? It is nothing, the plot is very similar to KotOR2 Now they making Dragon Age : Inquisition, oh there's a Illuminati group who will solve a problem...what problem? Sky open up and demons coming in...what the..? So that's Dragon Age... Edited July 1, 2014 by Qistina 1
kirottu Posted July 1, 2014 Posted July 1, 2014 So Dragon Age is stupid because you don't get to play as a dragon? 3 This post is not to be enjoyed, discussed, or referenced on company time.
Amentep Posted July 1, 2014 Posted July 1, 2014 As you can see the title is DRAGON Age but the story is never about dragon whatsover. "Dragon Age" is, in the lore, named because of the sighting of the first high dragon in centuries and thus noticed by the chantry at the end of the Blessed Age. So the title is a reference to a specific time of the Chantry Calendar in Thedas, and not actually about any specific creature. I cannot - yet I must. How do you calculate that? At what point on the graph do "must" and "cannot" meet? Yet I must - but I cannot! ~ Ro-Man
Volourn Posted July 1, 2014 Posted July 1, 2014 "Dragon Age is nothing but Star Wars and KotOR 1+2 rip off." What's hilarious about this comment is that SW is well known to be an ADMITTED ripoff of something else. LMAO Plus, SW is generally overrated to begin with. Watchable but that's it. 3 DWARVES IN PROJECT ETERNITY = VOLOURN HAS PLEDGED $250.
Qistina Posted July 1, 2014 Posted July 1, 2014 (edited) Let say i make a novel, titled "Tiger Age", surely i will direct the story toward tigers, why it is called "Tiger Age", there's a lot of tigers and tigers are significant in the story or else i will not give the title "TIGER AGE" The game started with your origin whatever it is, then battle of Ostagar, you don't see any dragon, you only hear about Archdemon from few characters, you know Archdemon is a dragon from Alistair if you talk to him. And that's it. That is the only reference about a dragon in Dragon Age game. As you progress in the game, you got dreams or vission of a dragon the Archdemon, the thing just "huuaaarghh huuuarrgghh!!!", but the whole thing you do is nothing related to the dragon. Then you stumble upon a dragon in a temple ruin, you kill it or leave it alone, does it give any significant? If you kill it you get loots, if leave it you get nothing. Then reaching the end, there's cutscenes about dragon flying around, a guy backstab the dragon and fall...and at last you kill the dragon heroicly...the end. So what the story is about? Ok you can say the story is a bout a guy/girl become a Grey Warden, unite the land to against the Blight and kill the Archdemon. But does that a conclusion of the story? What is the damn Archdemon, a dragon or what? No answer. Where the darkspawn come from? No answer. Does Mages really to blame creating the Blight? No answer. There are too many questions that have no answer even in Dragon Age 2. The game didn't give you anything about Grey Warden either and it's not about Grey Warden. You playing a character who assume a Grey Warden role. Alistair the one who supposed to be your guide about being Grey Warden don't know about Grey Warden because he's only being recruited for 6 month. Riordan the senior Grey Warden you only meet at the end game and then he died. So what the player is playing actually? It is like someone who just recruited to become a cop, then something happen all cops dead, so he/she just assume how a cop should behave....just kill anything moving in Dragon Age 2 you play as a nobody who suddenly become a noble, then get into some mess between Mages and Templar, then continue to get involved in. The game didn't answer or even give hint about previous game, but give you a new game with a weak character to play. Hawke have no authority over anything but yet he/she can meddle with everyone business like a boss even before become a noble. Even as a noble, what give him/her a right to get involve in everything? Hawke have no right at all. The game didn't give any hint on why Hawke can be a big boss in the city and no one give a damn about it. I can say that Bioware never decide about this game, that is why we can see inconsistencies, lazy work, loop holes and many things. They just pile up everything for DA:O then they begin to decide in DA2. But DA2 is a failure. Sten was a mysterious character with weird philosophy of life, he's a giant and dark skined. All we know he's a Qunari. Suddenly in DA2 Qunari are nothing like Sten in appearance, they have horn, reddish, fanatical "Militant Islamic Borg" (David Gaider who said this) who run amok in a city just because they lost their holy book....now what is that? Ok, they say Qunari are technologically advanced bla bla bla, but they cannot print and making thousand copies of one holy book??? Then they want to relate the red devil horned barbaric Qunari with Ottoman Turk... It's a turn down for me.... Edited July 1, 2014 by Qistina
Nepenthe Posted July 1, 2014 Posted July 1, 2014 10 You're a cheery wee bugger, Nep. Have I ever said that? Reapercussions
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